James Tanner
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Location: North Cederbrooke , ON Joined: 01.19.2017
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If the Coyotes wanted to get fancy, they could protect four D, keep Schmidt and protect only Ovechkin, Burakovsky, Backstrom and Kuznetsov.
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what would you offer vegas to take orpik?
you really dont see them protecting Wilson? I imagine he has a decent amount of trade value. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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why would it be nuts if they protected Tom Wilson?
you cant play one game against Washington without fearing him, he's relatively cheap and he has the ability to contribute offensively |
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DutchSenators
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Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam Joined: 06.07.2015
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why would it be nuts if they protected Tom Wilson?
you cant play one game against Washington without fearing him, he's relatively cheap and he has the ability to contribute offensively - jimbro83
Also think they keep Wilson over Connolly |
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Capsnut
Washington Capitals |
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Location: FL Joined: 12.04.2014
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Also think they keep Wilson over Connolly - DutchSenators
Without question.
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James Tanner
Washington Capitals |
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Location: North Cederbrooke , ON Joined: 01.19.2017
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why would it be nuts if they protected Tom Wilson?
you cant play one game against Washington without fearing him, he's relatively cheap and he has the ability to contribute offensively - jimbro83
Because Connelly and Eller are better. He's alright, and certainly he's a helpful player, but if all you lose is Tom Wilson that's not too bad. |
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James Tanner
Washington Capitals |
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Location: North Cederbrooke , ON Joined: 01.19.2017
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Without question. - Capsnut
They did healthy scratch Connelly, so there is definintely reason to think you're right. But a) that was a bad coaching decision and b) Connolley is a way better player who is younger, cheaper and helps you win more.
So "without question" if the Capitals protected Wilson over Connelly they'd be incompetent. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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They did healthy scratch Connelly, so there is definintely reason to think you're right. But a) that was a bad coaching decision and b) Connolley is a way better player who is younger, cheaper and helps you win more.
So "without question" if the Capitals protected Wilson over Connelly they'd be incompetent. - james_tanner1
they dressed Connolly in only 7 playoff games and he didn't get a point
Wilson played in every playoff game, was a factor in every game, scored 3 playoff goals including an overtime winner
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shuperman24
Washington Capitals |
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Location: halifax, NS Joined: 05.22.2017
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Just a few comments.
1. Orpik has to be protected bc of his nmc. I'm betting they buy him out and should bc it will allow them to protect Orlov. Schmidt has to be held onto. Hopefully Vegas goes after Grab in net.
2. Wilson is and should be protected. Crazy talk to think he won't. Winnik is a Ufa
In a perfect world we trade Orpik. Trade Lars. Keep Schmidt. |
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They did healthy scratch Connelly, so there is definintely reason to think you're right. But a) that was a bad coaching decision and b) Connolley is a way better player who is younger, cheaper and helps you win more.
So "without question" if the Capitals protected Wilson over Connelly they'd be incompetent. - james_tanner1
1. how is he a way better player? please elaborate.
2. he isnt younger.
3. how does he help you win more?
4. How will he be cheaper if he is the way better player? |
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Kineada
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Freedom, PA Joined: 06.03.2008
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This expansion draft isn't fair to the Washington Capitals. They deserve to keep all their players! |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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This expansion draft isn't fair to the Washington Capitals. They deserve to keep all their players! - Kineada
Have some compassion man! We're breaking up a dynasty here! |
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James Tanner
Washington Capitals |
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Location: North Cederbrooke , ON Joined: 01.19.2017
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they dressed Connolly in only 7 playoff games and he didn't get a point
Wilson played in every playoff game, was a factor in every game, scored 3 playoff goals including an overtime winner - jimbro83
This I know. I think you have to take the offensive player who played the whole year on the third line, which was very good and where he was very effective vs the fourth line player.
Wilson scored 3 goals in the playoffs, but that is an anomaly: he scored 7 goals in 82 games before that. And 7 goals in the 82 games before that. And 4 goals in the 67 games before that.
Connelly is a much better player.
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James Tanner
Washington Capitals |
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Location: North Cederbrooke , ON Joined: 01.19.2017
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Just a few comments.
1. Orpik has to be protected bc of his nmc. I'm betting they buy him out and should bc it will allow them to protect Orlov. Schmidt has to be held onto. Hopefully Vegas goes after Grab in net.
2. Wilson is and should be protected. Crazy talk to think he won't. Winnik is a Ufa
In a perfect world we trade Orpik. Trade Lars. Keep Schmidt. - shuperman24
Orpik does not have a no movement clause and does not need to be protected. I double checked. |
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Max.Betts
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver Joined: 09.30.2015
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Hey James, just because you keep saying Connolly is a better player doesn't make it true. They are different role players and I promise there's more than one reason he's bounced around since being the 6th OA pick in the draft |
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Max.Betts
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver Joined: 09.30.2015
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Hey James, just because you keep saying Connolly is a better player doesn't make it true. They are different role players and I promise there's more than one reason he's bounced around since being the 6th OA pick in the draft - Max.Betts
And FFS, spell his name right |
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James Tanner
Washington Capitals |
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Location: North Cederbrooke , ON Joined: 01.19.2017
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1. how is he a way better player? please elaborate.
2. he isnt younger.
3. how does he help you win more?
4. How will he be cheaper if he is the way better player? - rinaldo
I mistakenly thought Connelly was younger than Wilson you are correct.
Wilson 54% CF relative CF + 2.7% 14 5v5 goals
Connelly 50% CF relative CF - 1.92% 6 5v5 goals
I was probably wrong about him being cheaper, or now. Wilson makes 2 million, and you could probably sign Connelly to about the same, but you could get it for two or three years, wheres next year you'll need to give Wilson a raise.
I realize people like players like Wilson, so I don't really expect too many to agree, but I think the stats clearly show that Connelly is a much better player. |
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This I know. I think you have to take the offensive player who played the whole year on the third line, which was very good and where he was very effective vs the fourth line player.
Wilson scored 3 goals in the playoffs, but that is an anomaly: he scored 7 goals in 82 games before that. And 7 goals in the 82 games before that. And 4 goals in the 67 games before that.
Connelly is a much better player. - james_tanner1
Not always about the raw number stats james is it? |
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blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Lake in the Hills, IL Joined: 06.06.2009
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This expansion draft isn't fair to the Washington Capitals. They deserve to keep all their players! - Kineada
Exactly.
Besides there was a rule that the President's Trophy winner got to keep all players. Cuz we ALL KNOW the RS champion is far more important and far better than the Stanley Cup Champion. |
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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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what would you offer vegas to take orpik?
you really dont see them protecting Wilson? I imagine he has a decent amount of trade value. - rinaldo
What would you have to trade Washington that would not only male them take Orpik, but also pass on a choice of Grubaur or Schmitt, possibly Johansson if they protect 4D? Maybe they can pawn that contract off on someone for a decent asset, but if I'm Vegas I'm not giving up the right to draft from Washington where they might actually get a good young player. |
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shuperman24
Washington Capitals |
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Location: halifax, NS Joined: 05.22.2017
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I thought orpik and nisk both had nmc. I'd protect Schmidt orlov and Carlson. I like nisk but the worst case scenario is nisk contract is taken. That money could go into attempting to resign a few of our ufa's. |
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shuperman24
Washington Capitals |
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Location: halifax, NS Joined: 05.22.2017
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Tanner, with all due respect not one gm takes Connolly over Wilson. There is a reason Connolly bounced around and likely is going to sign a 1.5 m deal.
Wilson on the other hand was probably our heart and soul in these playoffs and is a leader who's role keeps growing. Pts is only one aspect of the game. Wilson is a tank who hits everything. He also has turned into a great penalty killer.
If wilson is exposed to the expansion draft he will be gone in a minute. Wilson is a natural born leader that you need. Connolly had a nice year on a great team.
It's not even close |
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James Tanner
Washington Capitals |
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Location: North Cederbrooke , ON Joined: 01.19.2017
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I thought orpik and nisk both had nmc. I'd protect Schmidt orlov and Carlson. I like nisk but the worst case scenario is nisk contract is taken. That money could go into attempting to resign a few of our ufa's. - shuperman24
You have to protect Niskanen, he's one of the top 30 or so D in the NHL, certainly it's possible Schmidt could one day be as good as Niskanen, but it's not really likely. |
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