Sheng Peng: Knights Picking 3rd; McCrimmon Talks Brandon, Burgers & Nolan Patrick

Patrik Stefan???

Patrik Stefan???
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Long careers might have been stretching it for him and Falloon. But both were decent-enough players who were victimized a lot by huge expectations.

If all the top centers are gone is it a D the pick? Or does Nekas fit the bill for excitement?

Long careers might have been stretching it for him and Falloon. But both were decent-enough players who were victimized a lot by huge expectations.
- Sheng.Peng

Falloon was at least around for a while and had some decent seasons.

Stefan was a way off the board pick from the IHL and is most known for an empty net goal he didn't score. It's pretty appropriate that he was Atlantas first ever pick. He set the tone for that miserable franchise.

If all the top centers are gone is it a D the pick? Or does Nekas fit the bill for excitement?
- Nuck4U

Unless they really like him, my impression is that's high for Necas.

Stefan was a way off the board pick from the IHL and is most known for an empty net goal he didn't score.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

He is best known for his empty net miss, but I don't recall him being "way off the board."

Unless they really like him, my impression is that's high for Necas.



He is best known for his empty net miss, but I don't recall him being "way off the board."
- Sheng.Peng

Name me the next highest pick from the IHL.

Name me the next highest pick from the IHL.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

#3 Radek Bonk (1994), #8 Sergei Samsonov (1997),#9 Ruslan Salei (1996), #16 Dimitri Kvartalnov (1992), #17 Robert Dome (1997), #18 Petr Sykora (1995)

Name me the next highest pick from the IHL.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

I don't think you know what going "off the board" means if this is they reason you are giving.

There was no consensus #1 for the 1999 draft. Many had Stefan going 1st. The pick was not a surprise. It was in line with want some had. You can't even claim that it was off the board never mind claiming it was way off.

Nice write up.

I don't think sixth pick is that bad--in fact, I think it takes some pressure off of them. They'll already be able to secure some solid current NHL talent in the Expansion Draft and they can do some wheeling and dealing ahead of that.

Wouldn't be surprised if they tried moving up in the draft. I feel like you can get some gems in rounds 4, 5 and 6--so they should be good.

Can''t wait for the Golden Knights to join the league.

Also, check your PMs.

Thanks!

Penger, who do you think the GKs picking at 6?

Nice write up.

I don't think sixth pick is that bad--in fact, I think it takes some pressure off of them. They'll already be able to secure some solid current NHL talent in the Expansion Draft and they can do some wheeling and dealing ahead of that.

Wouldn't be surprised if they tried moving up in the draft. I feel like you can get some gems in rounds 4, 5 and 6--so they should be good.

Can''t wait for the Golden Knights to join the league.

Also, check your PMs.

Thanks!
- Hank3Henshaw

If you are very, very lucky you can. Probabilities of those picks making an impact in the NHL are slim to none.

I don't think you know what going "off the board" means if this is they reason you are giving.

There was no consensus #1 for the 1999 draft. Many had Stefan going 1st. The pick was not a surprise. It was in line with want some had. You can't even claim that it was off the board never mind claiming it was way off.
- VT001

Not sure if my memory is off but I recall a lot of teams were extremely worried about his concussion history and the fact that his agent wouldn't release medical records. Also he had only ever played like 30 pro games and no major junior. Neither Dudley nor Burke wanted anything to do with him.

Maybe 'off the board' wasn't the right terrm. Risky af might be more fitting.

If you are very, very lucky you can. Probabilities of those picks making an impact in the NHL are slim to none.
- RhinoFan

I guess at the very least, it'll be the start of their farm system.

Vegas is better off trading their 1st rounder if they can get a decent young roster player in return. Maybe trade the 1st to a team that will have issues signing one of their pending RFA's, etc...

This draft doesn't sound so great.

e.x., trade the 1st rounder to Tampa for Tyler Johnson

Nice write up.
- Hank3Henshaw

Thanks!

Not sure if my memory is off but I recall a lot of teams were extremely worried about his concussion history and the fact that his agent wouldn't release medical records.

Maybe 'off the board' wasn't the right terrm. Risky af might be more fitting.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Your memory is right and he was more risky than your average number-one overall, for sure.

Vegas is better off trading their 1st rounder if they can get a decent young roster player in return. Maybe trade the 1st to a team that will have issues signing one of their pending RFA's, etc...

This draft doesn't sound so great.

e.x., trade the 1st rounder to Tampa for Tyler Johnson
- Rinosaur

Unless Vegas absolutely hates this draft, no reason to trade their pick for somebody like Johnson who is probably leaving his prime sooner than later. Vegas probably won't be very good anytime soon, so what's the use of a Johnson-type to them at the cost of their first pick?

#3 Radek Bonk (1994), #8 Sergei Samsonov (1997),#9 Ruslan Salei (1996), #16 Dimitri Kvartalnov (1992), #17 Robert Dome (1997), #18 Petr Sykora (1995)
- Sheng Peng

Look at all those all stars.
Bonk was a huge bust too!
Samsonov, Sykora and Salei all worked out well for at least parts of their NHL careers

Sheng Peng: Knights Picking 3rd; McCrimmon Talks Brandon, Burgers & Nolan Patrick
- Sheng.Peng

rostislav klesla

Look at all those all stars.
Bonk was a huge bust too!
Samsonov, Sykora and Salei all worked out well for at least parts of their NHL careers
- mlindsay

Ironically, Bonk had the most All-Star Game appearances in that group (2: 2000, 2001). Perhaps a "bust" for his position, but actually a good player.

Only Dome was an out-and-out, couldn't cut it in NHL bust. Even Kvartalnov scored 30.

Unless Vegas absolutely hates this draft, no reason to trade their pick for somebody like Johnson who is probably leaving his prime sooner than later. Vegas probably won't be very good anytime soon, so what's the use of a Johnson-type to them at the cost of their first pick?
- Sheng.Peng

There's a lot of reason to not like this draft. It's looking to be similar to the 2012 draft which is not to say no good players came out of it, but it was crap-shoot and only a couple of really good players were drafted in the first round.

Now, I was just throwing Johnson's name out there as the first pending RFA I could think of to give an example of what they could do. Tampa is also rumored to be listening to offers for Drouin for instance.

My overall point is if you can get a player in his early 20's who's a proven player it's probably a wiser move than drafting outside the top three picks in that draft.

Ironically, Bonk had the most All-Star Game appearances in that group (2: 2000, 2001). Perhaps a "bust" for his position, but actually a good player.

Only Dome was an out-and-out, couldn't cut it in NHL bust. Even Kvartalnov scored 30.
- Sheng.Peng

Bonk never lived up to his hype... he was hugely hyped up before he arrived in the NHL

Any chances to my wild dream that Shattenkirk signs in Las Vegas for huge long term deal? They have the most money to offer of all teams. Also would that even be a good thing for the Knights?

Sheng Peng: Knights Picking 3rd; McCrimmon Talks Brandon, Burgers & Nolan Patrick
- Sheng.Peng

S1TP, hello.

My overall point is if you can get a player in his early 20's who's a proven player it's probably a wiser move than drafting outside the top three picks in that draft.
- Rinosaur

Fair enough. Yea, definitely depends on who you're getting. Drouin would be more enticing than Johnson if he were on the table.

Bonk never lived up to his hype... he was hugely hyped up before he arrived in the NHL
- mlindsay

Just depends on how you define bust. Did Bonk live up to hype? Nope. But did he have an excellent career nonetheless? Almost 1,000 NHL games, a couple All-Star appearances, I'll say he did, which is why I wouldn't call him a bust.

Any chances to my wild dream that Shattenkirk signs in Las Vegas for huge long term deal? They have the most money to offer of all teams. Also would that even be a good thing for the Knights?
- Zac_O

Yea, I don't see that as good for the Knights and Shattenkirk (except for his bank account). I doubt he flourishes as a number-one for a bad team.

Fair enough. Yea, definitely depends on who you're getting. Drouin would be more enticing than Johnson if he were on the table.



Just depends on how you define bust. Did Bonk live up to hype? Nope. But did he have an excellent career nonetheless? Almost 1,000 NHL games, a couple All-Star appearances, I'll say he did, which is why I wouldn't call him a bust.



Yea, I don't see that as good for the Knights and Shattenkirk (except for his bank account). I doubt he flourishes as a number-one for a bad team.
- Sheng.Peng

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