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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Apr 25 @ 10:59 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Provorov & Lyubimov, Bourdon
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Apr 25 @ 11:02 AM ET
Hmm, I wonder when VDV will be added to the US worlds roster.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 25 @ 11:08 AM ET
former Flyers HOF camp invitee Tomas Hyka (Czech Republic).


ftfy
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 25 @ 11:09 AM ET
Great news about MAB, thanks for sharing Bill.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 25 @ 11:13 AM ET
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 25 @ 11:13 AM ET
Great news about MAB, thanks for sharing Bill.
- ravishingone

Absolutely!
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 25 @ 11:19 AM ET
Carrying over from the last blog... I think it can be said that a big need that most of us can agree on is the 1C position moving forward and that Hexy in his 4th year is going to have to address that somehow (unless as someone mentioned, Rubstov is similar to how when we drafted Giroux.) Maybe I should be more worried about it, but between the prospects we have (defenseman AND goalies) and even core player(s) that could be moved for the sake of getting younger and improving for the future, I trust Hexy can or would make the right move, if needed of course. I know we always resort to Simmonds, Ghost, and other d prospects as the best bait to accomplish this 1C feat, but out of curiosity, what kind of value would any of our goalie prospects have? I'd prefer to keep them with our goalie issues, but I know Hexy has stocked piled on some in recent drafts (Sandstrom, Hart, Madsen, Tomek, Lyon). I just never see any discussion involving goalie prospects for trades. Only defense and forwards like Laughton as a throw in.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 25 @ 11:37 AM ET
Did they ever get in to specifically why Radko initially failed his physical?

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 25 @ 11:38 AM ET
Carrying over from the last blog... I think it can be said that a big need that most of us can agree on is the 1C position moving forward and that Hexy in his 4th year is going to have to address that somehow (unless as someone mentioned, Rubstov is similar to how when we drafted Giroux.) Maybe I should be more worried about it, but between the prospects we have (defenseman AND goalies) and even core player(s) that could be moved for the sake of getting younger and improving for the future, I trust Hexy can or would make the right move, if needed of course. I know we always resort to Simmonds, Ghost, and other d prospects as the best bait to accomplish this 1C feat, but out of curiosity, what kind of value would any of our goalie prospects have? I'd prefer to keep them with our goalie issues, but I know Hexy has stocked piled on some in recent drafts (Sandstrom, Hart, Madsen, Tomek, Lyon). I just never see any discussion involving goalie prospects for trades. Only defense and forwards like Laughton as a throw in.
- arichardson22


not a lot
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 25 @ 11:38 AM ET
@BroadStBull Stolarz had surgery to repair torn right MCL. (This should solidify Flyers protecting MN). #Phantoms Ouellette will start Wed. vs Hershey.


In Carchidi land, 2 + 2 =5
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Apr 25 @ 11:40 AM ET
Carrying over from the last blog... I think it can be said that a big need that most of us can agree on is the 1C position moving forward and that Hexy in his 4th year is going to have to address that somehow (unless as someone mentioned, Rubstov is similar to how when we drafted Giroux.) Maybe I should be more worried about it, but between the prospects we have (defenseman AND goalies) and even core player(s) that could be moved for the sake of getting younger and improving for the future, I trust Hexy can or would make the right move, if needed of course. I know we always resort to Simmonds, Ghost, and other d prospects as the best bait to accomplish this 1C feat, but out of curiosity, what kind of value would any of our goalie prospects have? I'd prefer to keep them with our goalie issues, but I know Hexy has stocked piled on some in recent drafts (Sandstrom, Hart, Madsen, Tomek, Lyon). I just never see any discussion involving goalie prospects for trades. Only defense and forwards like Laughton as a throw in.
- arichardson22


Being that goalie prospects tend to be so volatile in their development, I don't see any of the goalie prospects having a lot of value.

Outside of the elite, NHL level goalies don't even have a ton of value in trades either.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 25 @ 11:42 AM ET
xo
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 25 @ 11:43 AM ET
Being that goalie prospects tend to be so volatile in their development, I don't see any of the goalie prospects having a lot of value.

Outside of the elite, NHL level goalies don't even have a ton of value in trades either.

- JFlyers00



and for this reason I would be hesitant to move one. imagine moving one and keeping the rest and have the one they move be the one that develops and the rest bottom out
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 25 @ 11:55 AM ET
Being that goalie prospects tend to be so volatile in their development, I don't see any of the goalie prospects having a lot of value.

Outside of the elite, NHL level goalies don't even have a ton of value in trades either.

- JFlyers00


I just figured Hart or Sandstrom would have some value as they're considered better goalie prospects for their age. I don't want to trade either of those two but just was curious if having both of them makes the other expendable with the other goalies I mentioned above also in the system, similar with how trading a defensive prospect comes up because of the depth.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Apr 25 @ 11:58 AM ET
Hmm, I wonder when VDV will be added to the US worlds roster.
- JFlyers00


I'd be fine with VdV as the 13th forward for Team USA

rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Apr 25 @ 12:01 PM ET
Bourdons career was never taking off, good lord.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Apr 25 @ 12:12 PM ET
Carrying over from the last blog... I think it can be said that a big need that most of us can agree on is the 1C position moving forward and that Hexy in his 4th year is going to have to address that somehow (unless as someone mentioned, Rubstov is similar to how when we drafted Giroux.)
- arichardson22


It will have to be addressed in the next couple years but I don't see it as being imperative this off season.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 25 @ 12:16 PM ET
NHL Purgatory
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 25 @ 12:16 PM ET
Carrying over from the last blog... I think it can be said that a big need that most of us can agree on is the 1C position moving forward and that Hexy in his 4th year is going to have to address that somehow (unless as someone mentioned, Rubstov is similar to how when we drafted Giroux.) Maybe I should be more worried about it, but between the prospects we have (defenseman AND goalies) and even core player(s) that could be moved for the sake of getting younger and improving for the future, I trust Hexy can or would make the right move, if needed of course. I know we always resort to Simmonds, Ghost, and other d prospects as the best bait to accomplish this 1C feat, but out of curiosity, what kind of value would any of our goalie prospects have? I'd prefer to keep them with our goalie issues, but I know Hexy has stocked piled on some in recent drafts (Sandstrom, Hart, Madsen, Tomek, Lyon). I just never see any discussion involving goalie prospects for trades. Only defense and forwards like Laughton as a throw in.
- arichardson22


Goalie prospects don't hold a ton of value
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 25 @ 12:17 PM ET
In Carchidi land, 2 + 2 =5
- Feanor


He's saying because Stolarz tore his MCL, the team will leave him unprotected?
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Apr 25 @ 12:17 PM ET
Always wondered what would have been if he was healthy...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 25 @ 12:20 PM ET
I just figured Hart or Sandstrom would have some value as they're considered better goalie prospects for their age. I don't want to trade either of those two but just was curious if having both of them makes the other expendable with the other goalies I mentioned above also in the system, similar with how trading a defensive prospect comes up because of the depth.
- arichardson22


They've probably held or increased their value since draft day, but they're still more of a throw in to any trade. I would assume they have 2nd round pick type value.
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Apr 25 @ 12:25 PM ET
Carrying over from the last blog... I think it can be said that a big need that most of us can agree on is the 1C position moving forward and that Hexy in his 4th year is going to have to address that somehow (unless as someone mentioned, Rubstov is similar to how when we drafted Giroux.) Maybe I should be more worried about it, but between the prospects we have (defenseman AND goalies) and even core player(s) that could be moved for the sake of getting younger and improving for the future, I trust Hexy can or would make the right move, if needed of course. I know we always resort to Simmonds, Ghost, and other d prospects as the best bait to accomplish this 1C feat, but out of curiosity, what kind of value would any of our goalie prospects have? I'd prefer to keep them with our goalie issues, but I know Hexy has stocked piled on some in recent drafts (Sandstrom, Hart, Madsen, Tomek, Lyon). I just never see any discussion involving goalie prospects for trades. Only defense and forwards like Laughton as a throw in.
- arichardson22


Maybe I am off here, but why do so many people think Ghost is replaceable and should be traded? Who is coming up that has demonstrated his skill set with the puck on the blue line at the NHL level? I see a guy that would and will cause trouble for a team to defend against in the playoffs...he will continue to develop his defensive skill, but you can't teach what he does with the puck on his stick.

I would also say that while the topic is on a 1C, I think the real issue is there is not been a really good left wing on the first line. G is pass first...Jake to some extend as well. If you have a guy on that line that can bury the puck, G looks like a 1C when he is healthy...that I guess we will have to see next year if he bounces back. Shooting percentage wise they cannot be as bad across the board as they were this year.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 25 @ 12:35 PM ET
Maybe I am off here, but why do so many people think Ghost is replaceable and should be traded? Who is coming up that has demonstrated his skill set with the puck on the blue line at the NHL level? I see a guy that would and will cause trouble for a team to defend against in the playoffs...he will continue to develop his defensive skill, but you can't teach what he does with the puck on his stick.

I would also say that while the topic is on a 1C, I think the real issue is there is not been a really good left wing on the first line. G is pass first...Jake to some extend as well. If you have a guy on that line that can bury the puck, G looks like a 1C when he is healthy...that I guess we will have to see next year if he bounces back. Shooting percentage wise they cannot be as bad across the board as they were this year.

- JW98FlyerFan


Someone is going to have to demonstrate they can run the point effectively before they trade ghost IMO. Whether that be Provorov, Myers, or Sanheim. Provorov has work to do there and I think Myers may have the best shot at being the point man of the future. Booming shot and long reach.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 25 @ 12:36 PM ET
Maybe I am off here, but why do so many people think Ghost is replaceable and should be traded? Who is coming up that has demonstrated his skill set with the puck on the blue line at the NHL level? I see a guy that would and will cause trouble for a team to defend against in the playoffs...he will continue to develop his defensive skill, but you can't teach what he does with the puck on his stick.

I would also say that while the topic is on a 1C, I think the real issue is there is not been a really good left wing on the first line. G is pass first...Jake to some extend as well. If you have a guy on that line that can bury the puck, G looks like a 1C when he is healthy...that I guess we will have to see next year if he bounces back. Shooting percentage wise they cannot be as bad across the board as they were this year.

- JW98FlyerFan



I think the best way to utilize Ghost is to set him free and just live with his defensive shortcomings. More Paul Coffey, less Scott Stevens.....
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