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Dan Wallace
Joined: 09.15.2005

Apr 24 @ 12:55 PM ET
Dan Wallace: Disappointed Wild, Where Did it All Go Wrong?
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:12 PM ET
As a coach, Boudreau has finished 1st or 2nd in the division 9 times, and only made it to the Conference finals once (losing). His team has bowed out in the 1st round in 5 of the 9 seasons he has made the playoffs and he has never made it to the Stanley Cup.

You want a team that can win a Division or Presidents trophy then Boudreau is your man. You want a team that can adjust and succeed in the playoffs, you better look somewhere else.
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 24 @ 1:18 PM ET
As a coach, Boudreau has finished 1st or 2nd in the division 9 times, and only made it to the Conference finals once (losing). His team has bowed out in the 1st round in 5 of the 9 seasons he has made the playoffs and he has never made it to the Stanley Cup.

You want a team that can win a Division or Presidents trophy then Boudreau is your man. You want a team that can adjust and succeed in the playoffs, you better look somewhere else.

- TheTrob



This

Boudreaux is a very good regular season bench boss. Can't win in the playoffs.
Orange_me_Black
Season Ticket Holder
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Seattle (formally CA), WA
Joined: 07.16.2015

Apr 24 @ 1:51 PM ET
As a coach, Boudreau has finished 1st or 2nd in the division 9 times, and only made it to the Conference finals once (losing). His team has bowed out in the 1st round in 5 of the 9 seasons he has made the playoffs and he has never made it to the Stanley Cup.

You want a team that can win a Division or Presidents trophy then Boudreau is your man. You want a team that can adjust and succeed in the playoffs, you better look somewhere else.

- TheTrob



Or he over achieves with the teams he has. I think the Ducks Conference finals loss was the best team he ever has had. Nobody could win with the Wild prior so why crush BB for it. Its year 1 for him.
ECBloosier
St Louis Blues
Location: MO
Joined: 12.29.2014

Apr 24 @ 2:17 PM ET
While I am a Blues fan and am happy they won. You asked a question...

You are an incredible team. Depth, speed, scoring.....ummm ok check that point. You did run into a guy who STOLE the series Jake Allen.

Secondly the Blues keyed on mistakes. Thirdly, the season was freaking awesome for you. I think even better than the Hawks in some ways in the season.... but come playoffs, trust me we until last year never hardly saw a second round game or a 5th game in round 1. The hot teams win. Blues this year were hotter. The fans sorry (again I can relate) were overconfident is the seasons wins. I think Bordreau coaches so hard in the regular season the team become "expectation to win by just being there".
I feel your pain, And it sucks!
BodyCheckRadio
Joined: 10.19.2010

Apr 24 @ 2:25 PM ET
It's not Boudreaus fault. He isnt playing the game. He can't score. He cant defend. He lays out a plan and the players must execute. They didnt. Allen was good, which didnt help, but Boudreau isnt to blame. I'd say it if he has had zero success before, but he has won rounds and he has had some success. Getting to the promise land isnt easy.
WJDiedrich
Joined: 04.03.2013

Apr 24 @ 2:39 PM ET
I don't imagine a single Mild child will be able to even read this. Mild sorrow is good. I bask in it.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Apr 24 @ 3:09 PM ET
It's not Boudreaus fault. He isnt playing the game. He can't score. He cant defend. He lays out a plan and the players must execute. They didnt. Allen was good, which didnt help, but Boudreau isnt to blame. I'd say it if he has had zero success before, but he has won rounds and he has had some success. Getting to the promise land isnt easy.
- BodyCheckRadio

What if the plan he lays out fails, and he doesn't adjust?

Honestly, his comments were childish, and speak to not being able to adjust. Saying the better team lost, when you got beat 4-1, and didn't lead in a single game that you lost, is silly. Better how?

Who was better at scoring? Who was better at keeping the puck out of the net? Who was better at coming up big in key moments, like overtime?

Surprised by his comments. Especially with how often Bruce's teams have lost when they were the "better" team.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 24 @ 4:11 PM ET
What if the plan he lays out fails, and he doesn't adjust?

Honestly, his comments were childish, and speak to not being able to adjust. Saying the better team lost, when you got beat 4-1, and didn't lead in a single game that you lost, is silly. Better how?

Who was better at scoring? Who was better at keeping the puck out of the net? Who was better at coming up big in key moments, like overtime?

Surprised by his comments. Especially with how often Bruce's teams have lost when they were the "better" team.

- carcus


LOL! I find it amusing that Blues fans still feel the need to defend their team winning the series. Like I said in the previous thread, Boudreau has no obligation to stroke the Blues or their fans.

Saying something disparaging or negative about the Blues is one thing but simply choosing not to acknowledge or give them credit is another. I guess I don't see anything "childish" about it. It's an emotional time and I'm sure he was a little more than just disappointed in the outcome given the circumstances. Fairly certain his focus wasn't on saying pleasing things about St. Louis or Yeo.



RobShouts
St Louis Blues
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 07.13.2013

Apr 24 @ 4:42 PM ET
LOL! I find it amusing that Blues fans still feel the need to defend their team winning the series. Like I said in the previous thread, Boudreau has no obligation to stroke the Blues or their fans.
- MnGump


There's a big difference between not complimenting the team you lost to, which he of course has no obligation to do, and flat out lying to yourself and your team's fans. Boudreau has most fans buying into those nonsensical remarks.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Apr 24 @ 4:44 PM ET
LOL! I find it amusing that Blues fans still feel the need to defend their team winning the series. Like I said in the previous thread, Boudreau has no obligation to stroke the Blues or their fans.

Saying something disparaging or negative about the Blues is one thing but simply choosing not to acknowledge or give them credit is another. I guess I don't see anything "childish" about it. It's an emotional time and I'm sure he was a little more than just disappointed in the outcome given the circumstances. Fairly certain his focus wasn't on saying pleasing things about St. Louis or Yeo.

- MnGump


You think it's funny most Blues fans defend the Blues... then immediately feel the need to defend the Wild [Coach]??
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 24 @ 5:02 PM ET
You think it's funny most Blues fans defend the Blues... then immediately feel the need to defend the Wild
- Antilles[Coach]??

Hmmmm. C'mon Anthill, I know you aren't a simpleton. You defend losses, not wins.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 24 @ 5:06 PM ET
There's a big difference between not complimenting the team you lost to, which he of course has no obligation to do, and flat out lying to yourself and your team's fans. Boudreau has most fans buying into those nonsensical remarks.
- RobShouts

LOL, fans aren't buying into Boudreau... They watched this team dominate play for the majority of the season and much of this series only to see them lose. I think it's a pretty simple concept really.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Apr 24 @ 5:37 PM ET
LOL! I find it amusing that Blues fans still feel the need to defend their team winning the series. Like I said in the previous thread, Boudreau has no obligation to stroke the Blues or their fans.

Saying something disparaging or negative about the Blues is one thing but simply choosing not to acknowledge or give them credit is another. I guess I don't see anything "childish" about it. It's an emotional time and I'm sure he was a little more than just disappointed in the outcome given the circumstances. Fairly certain his focus wasn't on saying pleasing things about St. Louis or Yeo.

- MnGump

Glad I can amuse you.

He has no obligation to stroke the Blues or their fans, that is correct. But he put down a team that just beat his 4-1.

I have a feeling he was just trying to deflect personal criticism since he has not had a great track record in the playoffs. But calling your team the better team, after losing 4-1 to them, says to me that coaching was a big problem.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Apr 24 @ 5:40 PM ET
Hmmmm. C'mon Anthill, I know you aren't a simpleton. You defend losses, not wins.
- MnGump


Because most teams/fans have enough class to admit when they've lost. Boudreau and many Wild fans struggle to understand they've been bested. The Blues were good enough to win the series. The Wild weren't. Claiming to be the better team while booking tee times is just classless, and highly unusual. Boudreau's team failed this season, why can't he admit it?

Boudreau's comments are telling. He's not going to win a Cup unless he changes his attitude, because that filters down to players. He pretty much just chalked up the loss to random chance. If Wild can't beat a team they think they are better than; how the heck do they ever expect to beat teams they aren't? Most coaches in his position would be talking about the need to find ways to win, to outwork the goalie if he is stonewalling them. Boudreau pretty much came out and said "Hey, poop happens, what can you do?" That's a great way to get his team to accept failure. If he doesn't demand more of his players, who does he think is going to?
quackup
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 09.29.2014

Apr 24 @ 6:10 PM ET
Boudreau has an overall playoff record of 42-43 (which includes the 2015 season when the Ducks went 11-5).

At some point, the failures in the offseason can't be attributed to "bad luck." It's one thing if every team came in as the #8 seed, but that hasn't been the case. Not at all.
Hull16
St Louis Blues
Location: St.Louis, MO
Joined: 07.04.2006

Apr 24 @ 6:17 PM ET
Very well said, I wouldn't want that bozo anywhere near my team. Lose with dignity and go back to the drawing board and work harder. His comments and attitude were embarrassing and indicative of a loser mentality.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 24 @ 6:31 PM ET
Because most teams/fans have enough class to admit when they've lost. Boudreau and many Wild fans struggle to understand they've been bested. The Blues were good enough to win the series. The Wild weren't. Claiming to be the better team while booking tee times is just classless, and highly unusual. Boudreau's team failed this season, why can't he admit it?

Boudreau's comments are telling. He's not going to win a Cup unless he changes his attitude, because that filters down to players. He pretty much just chalked up the loss to random chance. If Wild can't beat a team they think they are better than; how the heck do they ever expect to beat teams they aren't? Most coaches in his position would be talking about the need to find ways to win, to outwork the goalie if he is stonewalling them. Boudreau pretty much came out and said "Hey, poop happens, what can you do?" That's a great way to get his team to accept failure. If he doesn't demand more of his players, who does he think is going to?

- Antilles


First of all, I do believe I gave credit to the Blues as "the better team" in the last thread. But I guess if Wild fans arent' singing praise from the mountain tops about how wonderful the Blues are then it's not good enough....

As far as Boudreau is concerned, Wild fans cannot speak for him. However, I think Wild fans not unlike their coach feel that based on the regular seasons results, the Wild were in fact the better team going into this series.... The majority of the series they played like the better team yet still ended up losing.

If consider the mindset of the Wild, their coach and their fans in the context of they were not only the better team in the regular season but the 2nd best offensive team in the league, it seems fairly easy to understand him saying that he felt the better team lost. It's not a difficult concept to understand.

Just like Blues fans felt after the Wild knocked them out in round one 2 years ago.

dougverby
St Louis Blues
Joined: 04.17.2017

Apr 24 @ 9:24 PM ET
Classless? Maybe. But it was a completely clueless thing to say. Excuses and loser mentality like this that should never come from your head coach, especially after a playoff series loss. The team beat you 4-1 and you only led once in the series. Yes he's defending his team, but you should never say it publicly. It just looked bad.

BTW-The "better team" was 3-7 against the Blues this year.
Gerk
St Louis Blues
Location: say it aint so TARASENKO, YT
Joined: 01.07.2008

Apr 24 @ 10:57 PM ET