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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Mar 30 @ 1:25 PM ET
Carol Schram: Should Travis Green be the next coach of the Vancouver Canucks? With another frustrating season winding to a close in Vancouver, should Utica Comets bench boss Travis Green be the next coach of the Canucks?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 30 @ 1:27 PM ET
I think an experienced NHL coach would be a better fit Carol...just my opinion.
verwustung
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 01.21.2011

Mar 30 @ 1:33 PM ET
You should hire Darryl Sutter.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 30 @ 1:37 PM ET
You should hire John Stevens.
- verwustung

WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 30 @ 1:39 PM ET
Dont WD and TG have a similar structure when coaching? It would be a lateral move to me but at this point I am open for any change in that area.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 30 @ 1:40 PM ET
No to Green.
NHL head coaching experience has to be a must.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Mar 30 @ 1:44 PM ET
Thanks Carol. With you on Green not the answer over WD. But like you alluded they need a change.

Also, heard Canucks ranked 16th in prospects. Green has more to do if he gets them. This draft will add more shiny new toys hopefully to all that.

Of course no saviors coming now with prospects or in this draft. But the pieces in key positions indicate the rebuild will have more of a kick soon.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 30 @ 1:44 PM ET
No to Green.
NHL head coaching experience has to be a must.

- Marwood

Does that include Asst coaches?

https://capfriendly.com/players/zemgus-girgensons

If JB can get for a second round pick. Would you? Is he worth a second?

First time I've ever listened to a Pat-cast. Botch is talking about saying Subban is the saviour. (frank) buddy, come on.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 30 @ 1:46 PM ET
should we spend the day talking about Tkachuk and Ehlers?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 30 @ 1:48 PM ET
Does that include Asst coaches?

https://capfriendly.com/players/zemgus-girgensons

If JB can get for a second round pick. Would you? Is he worth a second?

First time I've ever listened to a Pat-cast. Botch is talking about saying Subban is the saviour. (frank) buddy, come on.

- manvanfan

No he is not worth a 2nd
Rocket_Launcher
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 06.10.2016

Mar 30 @ 1:48 PM ET
Bring in Hitchcock on a two year deal, and Green as Associate coach. Similar transition with what he had in St, Louis with Yeo. if WD can stomach it, I'd really like to see him in the AHL as I think he will do a better job on preparing the kids there for the NHL.

I really have no complaints about WD as a coach and his development of youth or even line deployment, but the PP and PK clearly speak for themselves.
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 30 @ 1:50 PM ET
Luongo, Schneider, Lack and Markstrom all thrived while working under the coaching of Rollie Melanson. Now Melanson's working with Demko and he's starting to look pretty good.

Markstrom got switched over to working under Cloutier this season and there appears to have been some deterioration in his game. Not a lot, but some.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 30 @ 1:50 PM ET
No he is not worth a 2nd
- CanuckDon

paid a 2nd for Baertschi. Didn't have 270 nhl games of experience.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Mar 30 @ 1:55 PM ET
Luongo, Schneider, Lack and Markstrom all thrived while working under the coaching of Rollie Melanson. Now Melanson's working with Demko and he's starting to look pretty good.

Markstrom got switched over to working under Cloutier this season and there appears to have been some deterioration in his game. Not a lot, but some.

- YeOldTimer


Rollie is the man. Glad he's working on our future elite goalie Demko
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 30 @ 1:58 PM ET
paid a 2nd for Baertschi. Didn't have 270 nhl games of experience.
- manvanfan

exactly. why would we do it again? we have Baertschi so we don't need a 23 year old 6 goal scorer. Even if the cost minimal where does he play? Let's draft our own players.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Mar 30 @ 2:03 PM ET
"He has often been outmatched by more skilled counterparts and has seemed reluctant to make strategic adjustments when something's not working on the ice. "

This is something I was talking about 2 losing seasons ago....after the calgary series. 2 losing seasons later people are finally coming to realize this. THis coach is NOT nhl quality and will not win in this league without a stacked bunch of assistants doing all the real work for him.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 30 @ 2:03 PM ET
Bring in Hitchcock on a two year deal, and Green as Associate coach. Similar transition with what he had in St, Louis with Yeo. if WD can stomach it, I'd really like to see him in the AHL as I think he will do a better job on preparing the kids there for the NHL.

I really have no complaints about WD as a coach and his development of youth or even line deployment, but the PP and PK clearly speak for themselves.

- Rocket_Launcher


No thanks to Hitchcock, I'd rather keep Willie
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 30 @ 2:04 PM ET
Luongo, Schneider, Lack and Markstrom all thrived while working under the coaching of Rollie Melanson. Now Melanson's working with Demko and he's starting to look pretty good.

Markstrom got switched over to working under Cloutier this season and there appears to have been some deterioration in his game. Not a lot, but some.

- YeOldTimer

I disagree with Carol in that I don't believe Markstrom's development stalled, if anything the organization is at fault for overplaying Miller AGAIN. Markstrom's numbers are similar to last year, his GAA actual went down, although he played seven less games.

His save percentage was 0.915 last year, 0.910 this year and the team is arguably worse this year.

Cloutier said he's just building on what Rollie taught Marky, some minor tweaks but that's it.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Mar 30 @ 2:04 PM ET
Luongo, Schneider, Lack and Markstrom all thrived while working under the coaching of Rollie Melanson. Now Melanson's working with Demko and he's starting to look pretty good.

Markstrom got switched over to working under Cloutier this season and there appears to have been some deterioration in his game. Not a lot, but some.

- YeOldTimer

and miller improved under him
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 30 @ 2:05 PM ET
Luongo, Schneider, Lack and Markstrom all thrived while working under the coaching of Rollie Melanson. Now Melanson's working with Demko and he's starting to look pretty good.

Markstrom got switched over to working under Cloutier this season and there appears to have been some deterioration in his game. Not a lot, but some.

- YeOldTimer


Cloutier was a terrible goalie to begin with, how the (frank) is he coaching.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Mar 30 @ 2:09 PM ET
Bring in Hitchcock on a two year deal, and Green as Associate coach. Similar transition with what he had in St, Louis with Yeo. if WD can stomach it, I'd really like to see him in the AHL as I think he will do a better job on preparing the kids there for the NHL.

I really have no complaints about WD as a coach and his development of youth or even line deployment, but the PP and PK clearly speak for themselves.

- Rocket_Launcher

hitchcock is a genius technical coach yes, but tends to get players extremely pissed at him. I'd say no to him as HC, which he intends to retire from anyways.
He could run the D or special teams.

Personally I'd say hiring him as a team consultant makes better sense. Can tweak the team systems and work with coaching staff. Improve the D as well.
Would be a part time gig which is more in line for him
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Mar 30 @ 2:14 PM ET
Cloutier was a terrible goalie to begin with, how the (frank) is he coaching.
- Codes1087

Ive noticed that most goalie coaches are guys we havent heard from before. How many great goalies do you see as goalie coach? None.
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 30 @ 2:21 PM ET
I disagree with Carol in that I don't believe Markstrom's development stalled, if anything the organization is at fault for overplaying Miller AGAIN. Markstrom's numbers are similar to last year, his GAA actual went down, although he played seven less games.

His save percentage was 0.915 last year, 0.910 this year and the team is arguably worse this year.

Cloutier said he's just building on what Rollie taught Marky, some minor tweaks but that's it.

- LeftCoaster



Melanson's strategy is all about technique and consistency. Markstrom's had some lights out games and some stinkers this year. I'd argue his usage by WD was impacted by some soft goals in a few games. Didn't see as much of that last year.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 30 @ 2:23 PM ET
hitchcock is a genius technical coach yes, but tends to get players extremely pissed at him. I'd say no to him as HC, which he intends to retire from anyways.
He could run the D or special teams.

Personally I'd say hiring him as a team consultant makes better sense. Can tweak the team systems and work with coaching staff. Improve the D as well.
Would be a part time gig which is more in line for him

- SMBDragon


Why would Hitchcock want to been an assistant coach in Van? He doesn't seem like the type of guy that would leave his "coaching retirement" to be an assistant coach for a brutal team. He isn't known for patience and he won't want a career demotion
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Mar 30 @ 2:26 PM ET
Why would Hitchcock want to been an assistant coach in Van? He doesn't seem like the type of guy that would leave his "coaching retirement" to be an assistant coach for a brutal team. He isn't known for patience and he won't want a career demotion
- CanuckDon



What about the consultant/advisor role Dragon preferred?
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