Bob Duff: Plenty left to play for say Wings The last thing on the mind of the Detroit Red Wings players is tanking in order to get a better draft pick.

It's going to be sad when the Wings streak is broken.

And that should be the way for the players. You can't have players getting into a losing mindset.

They are bad enough that their play makes them tank. Riley Sheahan has zero goals yet plays over 15 minutes a game including power play time. Kronwall plays on one leg. He should be on LTIR. How is this not tanking? The team has tanked the entire season. Their OT record is abysmal. The only winning streak they had was at the start of the season when they were badly outplayed each game and won by sheer luck. After a win they celebrated like they just won the Stanley Cup only to begin another losing streak.

They have a coach who has no idea what he's doing and throws his young players under the bus yet says nothing when his overpaid, complacent excuse making vets screw up shift after shift. There's zero accountability for the lazy vets. They have a GM who does nothing but make excuses instead of doing some actual work. An apologist media who are bought and paid for by the Red Wings and write puff piece articles like the one you're reading now proving to be the lemmings they really are. Oh we just beat Chicago! We're making a late season playoff run! We're only 13 points out! Give me a break.

Holland says the vets can screw up as much as they want because they've built up stock in this league. Mantha and AA sneeze the wrong way and Blashill pretends he's Scotty Bowman! Bench them! Scratch them! They need to learn how to win in the NHL! WTF do you know about winning in the NHL, Blashill? You're a Mike Babcock wannabe copycat without the resume or results. No one cares what you think. The players tune you out. Go back to the AHL you puppet. Your boss Mister Holland needs his shoes shined.

They hold back players in the AHL because "it's a man's league" according to Hapless Holland. The only reason Mantha and AA are regulars now is because of injuries. I'm sure this will be the number one excuse made by Hapless Holland when the season is over. Oh we had too many injuries. Or its all Peter Mrazek's fault.

Holland has kept a clueless head coach around leading a group of players who have all regressed during his tenure. But that's not tanking, is it? Let's keep playing players based on their contracts and not on their play. After all, Hapless Holland has to justify his bloated, under performing contracts! Holland is perfect and never makes mistakes, right Bob? But this isn't tanking...

Bob, you tell me how the Red Wings haven't tanked this season away. I realize you're part of the Kenny Holland Kiss my ass club. You're one of the apologists and lemmings earning a separate pay check to be Holland's parrot. HSJ, Khan, Duff, Krupa it doesn't matter. You're all the same. It's pathetic. Oh wait I forgot you don't talk to the fans. You're only on Hockey Buzz to get more article views.

How can you sit there and selectively justify everything the Red Wings do? This team is a downright embarrassment and the laughing stock of the NHL. So us Red Wings fans are supposed to be proud of the players who don't want to tank? That's rich. Oh yes. We're bad fans because we want this team to draft a top 5 player to improve this dumpster fire of a team. We're so bad for trying to find one positive in this Crap season.

Let's admire the players because they refuse to tank. They lost earlier in the week at home to Buffalo scoring 1 goal. How is this not tanking? They lost to Colorado and New Jersey recently. But they're not tanking. How many regulation wins do the Red Wings have this season? They're not even at 20. But let's write a puff piece article exclaiming that the Red Wings aren't tanking.

That's the difference between me and you, Bob. I'm not a lemming or an apologist. I can think for myself and don't need Ken Holland to tell me how and what to think. I'm not on the Red Wings payroll like you and your fellow PR hacks are.

Sell your snake oil somewhere else. I'm not buying it. I expect much more from this team than mailing it in each night and making excuses for running this team into the ground. This team used to believe in Cup or bust. Now it's let's just make the playoffs and keep a meaningless playoff streak going. Well now that's coming to an end.

So what's the goal now Bob? What's the great battle cry? Win our last 10 games so we can screw up our draft position? Well look at this team, Bob. They're not winning all or even most of their remaining games. They don't have to tank because they already suck. They are too content after winning even one game. Where was this great effort all season? It was few and far between. All we hear from the clueless coach and excuse making vets are "we need to do this and we need to do that and we need to be better." But they would just go back to making the same mistakes.

I'm fine with losing at this point. I have been for awhile now. Any realistic Red Wings fan knew this team would be nowhere near the playoffs going into this season. Anyone who doesn't drink the Kenny Holland Kool aid or buy what the slappy, apologist, PR hack, lemming sell out, bought and paid for Ken Holland media is selling.

The country club atmosphere, Fraud GM, clueless coach and inferior talent are what's killing this team. I don't care what the Red Wings PR hacks tell me. Until these clowns are replaced, the circus will continue.

Bottom line is this team has been tanking all season with its horrible play. I'm not praising this team for sandbagging good effort when the games are meaningless. Sure. Let's be proud of the players who don't want to tank. Sell it somewhere else. I'm not buying it. There's a large group of Red Wings fans who will believe anything the fraud GM and PR hacks tell them. They're lemmings. They can't think for themselves. I'm not one of them and alot of other Red Wings fans aren't either.

Cut the crap, Bob. Stop being an apologist.

They are bad enough that their play makes them tank. Riley Sheahan has zero goals yet plays over 15 minutes a game including power play time. Kronwall plays on one leg. He should be on LTIR. How is this not tanking? The team has tanked the entire season. Their OT record is abysmal. The only winning streak they had was at the start of the season when they were badly outplayed each game and won by sheer luck. After a win they celebrated like they just won the Stanley Cup only to begin another losing streak.

They have a coach who has no idea what he's doing and throws his young players under the bus yet says nothing when his overpaid, complacent excuse making vets screw up shift after shift. There's zero accountability for the lazy vets. They have a GM who does nothing but make excuses instead of doing some actual work. An apologist media who are bought and paid for by the Red Wings and write puff piece articles like the one you're reading now proving to be the lemmings they really are. Oh we just beat Chicago! We're making a late season playoff run! We're only 13 points out! Give me a break.

Holland says the vets can screw up as much as they want because they've built up stock in this league. Mantha and AA sneeze the wrong way and Blashill pretends he's Scotty Bowman! Bench them! Scratch them! They need to learn how to win in the NHL! WTF do you know about winning in the NHL, Blashill? You're a Mike Babcock wannabe copycat without the resume or results. No one cares what you think. The players tune you out. Go back to the AHL you puppet. Your boss Mister Holland needs his shoes shined.

They hold back players in the AHL because "it's a man's league" according to Hapless Holland. The only reason Mantha and AA are regulars now is because of injuries. I'm sure this will be the number one excuse made by Hapless Holland when the season is over. Oh we had too many injuries. Or its all Peter Mrazek's fault.

Holland has kept a clueless head coach around leading a group of players who have all regressed during his tenure. But that's not tanking, is it? Let's keep playing players based on their contracts and not on their play. After all, Hapless Holland has to justify his bloated, under performing contracts! Holland is perfect and never makes mistakes, right Bob? But this isn't tanking...

Bob, you tell me how the Red Wings haven't tanked this season away. I realize you're part of the Kenny Holland Kiss my ass club. You're one of the apologists and lemmings earning a separate pay check to be Holland's parrot. HSJ, Khan, Duff, Krupa it doesn't matter. You're all the same. It's pathetic. Oh wait I forgot you don't talk to the fans. You're only on Hockey Buzz to get more article views.

How can you sit there and selectively justify everything the Red Wings do? This team is a downright embarrassment and the laughing stock of the NHL. So us Red Wings fans are supposed to be proud of the players who don't want to tank? That's rich. Oh yes. We're bad fans because we want this team to draft a top 5 player to improve this dumpster fire of a team. We're so bad for trying to find one positive in this Crap season.

Let's admire the players because they refuse to tank. They lost earlier in the week at home to Buffalo scoring 1 goal. How is this not tanking? They lost to Colorado and New Jersey recently. But they're not tanking. How many regulation wins do the Red Wings have this season? They're not even at 20. But let's write a puff piece article exclaiming that the Red Wings aren't tanking.

That's the difference between me and you, Bob. I'm not a lemming or an apologist. I can think for myself and don't need Ken Holland to tell me how and what to think. I'm not on the Red Wings payroll like you and your fellow PR hacks are.

Sell your snake oil somewhere else. I'm not buying it. I expect much more from this team than mailing it in each night and making excuses for running this team into the ground. This team used to believe in Cup or bust. Now it's let's just make the playoffs and keep a meaningless playoff streak going. Well now that's coming to an end.

So what's the goal now Bob? What's the great battle cry? Win our last 10 games so we can screw up our draft position? Well look at this team, Bob. They're not winning all or even most of their remaining games. They don't have to tank because they already suck. They are too content after winning even one game. Where was this great effort all season? It was few and far between. All we hear from the clueless coach and excuse making vets are "we need to do this and we need to do that and we need to be better." But they would just go back to making the same mistakes.

I'm fine with losing at this point. I have been for awhile now. Any realistic Red Wings fan knew this team would be nowhere near the playoffs going into this season. Anyone who doesn't drink the Kenny Holland Kool aid or buy what the slappy, apologist, PR hack, lemming sell out, bought and paid for Ken Holland media is selling.

The country club atmosphere, Fraud GM, clueless coach and inferior talent are what's killing this team. I don't care what the Red Wings PR hacks tell me. Until these clowns are replaced, the circus will continue.

Bottom line is this team has been tanking all season with its horrible play. I'm not praising this team for sandbagging good effort when the games are meaningless. Sure. Let's be proud of the players who don't want to tank. Sell it somewhere else. I'm not buying it. There's a large group of Red Wings fans who will believe anything the fraud GM and PR hacks tell them. They're lemmings. They can't think for themselves. I'm not one of them and alot of other Red Wings fans aren't either.

Cut the crap, Bob. Stop being an apologist.
- gergeswillems

Geez. I mean I agree with a lot here but geez

They are bad enough that their play makes them tank. Riley Sheahan has zero goals yet plays over 15 minutes a game including power play time. Kronwall plays on one leg. He should be on LTIR. How is this not tanking? The team has tanked the entire season. Their OT record is abysmal. The only winning streak they had was at the start of the season when they were badly outplayed each game and won by sheer luck. After a win they celebrated like they just won the Stanley Cup only to begin another losing streak.

They have a coach who has no idea what he's doing and throws his young players under the bus yet says nothing when his overpaid, complacent excuse making vets screw up shift after shift. There's zero accountability for the lazy vets. They have a GM who does nothing but make excuses instead of doing some actual work. An apologist media who are bought and paid for by the Red Wings and write puff piece articles like the one you're reading now proving to be the lemmings they really are. Oh we just beat Chicago! We're making a late season playoff run! We're only 13 points out! Give me a break.

Holland says the vets can screw up as much as they want because they've built up stock in this league. Mantha and AA sneeze the wrong way and Blashill pretends he's Scotty Bowman! Bench them! Scratch them! They need to learn how to win in the NHL! WTF do you know about winning in the NHL, Blashill? You're a Mike Babcock wannabe copycat without the resume or results. No one cares what you think. The players tune you out. Go back to the AHL you puppet. Your boss Mister Holland needs his shoes shined.

They hold back players in the AHL because "it's a man's league" according to Hapless Holland. The only reason Mantha and AA are regulars now is because of injuries. I'm sure this will be the number one excuse made by Hapless Holland when the season is over. Oh we had too many injuries. Or its all Peter Mrazek's fault.

Holland has kept a clueless head coach around leading a group of players who have all regressed during his tenure. But that's not tanking, is it? Let's keep playing players based on their contracts and not on their play. After all, Hapless Holland has to justify his bloated, under performing contracts! Holland is perfect and never makes mistakes, right Bob? But this isn't tanking...

Bob, you tell me how the Red Wings haven't tanked this season away. I realize you're part of the Kenny Holland Kiss my ass club. You're one of the apologists and lemmings earning a separate pay check to be Holland's parrot. HSJ, Khan, Duff, Krupa it doesn't matter. You're all the same. It's pathetic. Oh wait I forgot you don't talk to the fans. You're only on Hockey Buzz to get more article views.

How can you sit there and selectively justify everything the Red Wings do? This team is a downright embarrassment and the laughing stock of the NHL. So us Red Wings fans are supposed to be proud of the players who don't want to tank? That's rich. Oh yes. We're bad fans because we want this team to draft a top 5 player to improve this dumpster fire of a team. We're so bad for trying to find one positive in this Crap season.

Let's admire the players because they refuse to tank. They lost earlier in the week at home to Buffalo scoring 1 goal. How is this not tanking? They lost to Colorado and New Jersey recently. But they're not tanking. How many regulation wins do the Red Wings have this season? They're not even at 20. But let's write a puff piece article exclaiming that the Red Wings aren't tanking.

That's the difference between me and you, Bob. I'm not a lemming or an apologist. I can think for myself and don't need Ken Holland to tell me how and what to think. I'm not on the Red Wings payroll like you and your fellow PR hacks are.

Sell your snake oil somewhere else. I'm not buying it. I expect much more from this team than mailing it in each night and making excuses for running this team into the ground. This team used to believe in Cup or bust. Now it's let's just make the playoffs and keep a meaningless playoff streak going. Well now that's coming to an end.

So what's the goal now Bob? What's the great battle cry? Win our last 10 games so we can screw up our draft position? Well look at this team, Bob. They're not winning all or even most of their remaining games. They don't have to tank because they already suck. They are too content after winning even one game. Where was this great effort all season? It was few and far between. All we hear from the clueless coach and excuse making vets are "we need to do this and we need to do that and we need to be better." But they would just go back to making the same mistakes.

I'm fine with losing at this point. I have been for awhile now. Any realistic Red Wings fan knew this team would be nowhere near the playoffs going into this season. Anyone who doesn't drink the Kenny Holland Kool aid or buy what the slappy, apologist, PR hack, lemming sell out, bought and paid for Ken Holland media is selling.

The country club atmosphere, Fraud GM, clueless coach and inferior talent are what's killing this team. I don't care what the Red Wings PR hacks tell me. Until these clowns are replaced, the circus will continue.

Bottom line is this team has been tanking all season with its horrible play. I'm not praising this team for sandbagging good effort when the games are meaningless. Sure. Let's be proud of the players who don't want to tank. Sell it somewhere else. I'm not buying it. There's a large group of Red Wings fans who will believe anything the fraud GM and PR hacks tell them. They're lemmings. They can't think for themselves. I'm not one of them and alot of other Red Wings fans aren't either.

Cut the crap, Bob. Stop being an apologist.
- gergeswillems

Could I get the TL;DR version?

Could I get the TL;DR version?
- SRam19

"Wahhhhhhhhhh."

You're welcome.

Hey it's two piece of poop. I wondered where you slithered to. Hiding the whole time likely. Makes sense. You're gutless.
- gergeswillems

How creative.

Thanks for your concern, but I have a job and life, etc.

I suggest that you don't take the internet and opinions so seriously.

They are bad enough that their play makes them tank. Riley Sheahan has zero goals yet plays over 15 minutes a game including power play time. Kronwall plays on one leg. He should be on LTIR. How is this not tanking? The team has tanked the entire season. Their OT record is abysmal. The only winning streak they had was at the start of the season when they were badly outplayed each game and won by sheer luck. After a win they celebrated like they just won the Stanley Cup only to begin another losing streak.

They have a coach who has no idea what he's doing and throws his young players under the bus yet says nothing when his overpaid, complacent excuse making vets screw up shift after shift. There's zero accountability for the lazy vets. They have a GM who does nothing but make excuses instead of doing some actual work. An apologist media who are bought and paid for by the Red Wings and write puff piece articles like the one you're reading now proving to be the lemmings they really are. Oh we just beat Chicago! We're making a late season playoff run! We're only 13 points out! Give me a break.

Holland says the vets can screw up as much as they want because they've built up stock in this league. Mantha and AA sneeze the wrong way and Blashill pretends he's Scotty Bowman! Bench them! Scratch them! They need to learn how to win in the NHL! WTF do you know about winning in the NHL, Blashill? You're a Mike Babcock wannabe copycat without the resume or results. No one cares what you think. The players tune you out. Go back to the AHL you puppet. Your boss Mister Holland needs his shoes shined.

They hold back players in the AHL because "it's a man's league" according to Hapless Holland. The only reason Mantha and AA are regulars now is because of injuries. I'm sure this will be the number one excuse made by Hapless Holland when the season is over. Oh we had too many injuries. Or its all Peter Mrazek's fault.

Holland has kept a clueless head coach around leading a group of players who have all regressed during his tenure. But that's not tanking, is it? Let's keep playing players based on their contracts and not on their play. After all, Hapless Holland has to justify his bloated, under performing contracts! Holland is perfect and never makes mistakes, right Bob? But this isn't tanking...

Bob, you tell me how the Red Wings haven't tanked this season away. I realize you're part of the Kenny Holland Kiss my ass club. You're one of the apologists and lemmings earning a separate pay check to be Holland's parrot. HSJ, Khan, Duff, Krupa it doesn't matter. You're all the same. It's pathetic. Oh wait I forgot you don't talk to the fans. You're only on Hockey Buzz to get more article views.

How can you sit there and selectively justify everything the Red Wings do? This team is a downright embarrassment and the laughing stock of the NHL. So us Red Wings fans are supposed to be proud of the players who don't want to tank? That's rich. Oh yes. We're bad fans because we want this team to draft a top 5 player to improve this dumpster fire of a team. We're so bad for trying to find one positive in this Crap season.

Let's admire the players because they refuse to tank. They lost earlier in the week at home to Buffalo scoring 1 goal. How is this not tanking? They lost to Colorado and New Jersey recently. But they're not tanking. How many regulation wins do the Red Wings have this season? They're not even at 20. But let's write a puff piece article exclaiming that the Red Wings aren't tanking.

That's the difference between me and you, Bob. I'm not a lemming or an apologist. I can think for myself and don't need Ken Holland to tell me how and what to think. I'm not on the Red Wings payroll like you and your fellow PR hacks are.

Sell your snake oil somewhere else. I'm not buying it. I expect much more from this team than mailing it in each night and making excuses for running this team into the ground. This team used to believe in Cup or bust. Now it's let's just make the playoffs and keep a meaningless playoff streak going. Well now that's coming to an end.

So what's the goal now Bob? What's the great battle cry? Win our last 10 games so we can screw up our draft position? Well look at this team, Bob. They're not winning all or even most of their remaining games. They don't have to tank because they already suck. They are too content after winning even one game. Where was this great effort all season? It was few and far between. All we hear from the clueless coach and excuse making vets are "we need to do this and we need to do that and we need to be better." But they would just go back to making the same mistakes.

I'm fine with losing at this point. I have been for awhile now. Any realistic Red Wings fan knew this team would be nowhere near the playoffs going into this season. Anyone who doesn't drink the Kenny Holland Kool aid or buy what the slappy, apologist, PR hack, lemming sell out, bought and paid for Ken Holland media is selling.

The country club atmosphere, Fraud GM, clueless coach and inferior talent are what's killing this team. I don't care what the Red Wings PR hacks tell me. Until these clowns are replaced, the circus will continue.

Bottom line is this team has been tanking all season with its horrible play. I'm not praising this team for sandbagging good effort when the games are meaningless. Sure. Let's be proud of the players who don't want to tank. Sell it somewhere else. I'm not buying it. There's a large group of Red Wings fans who will believe anything the fraud GM and PR hacks tell them. They're lemmings. They can't think for themselves. I'm not one of them and alot of other Red Wings fans aren't either.

Cut the crap, Bob. Stop being an apologist.
- gergeswillems

Kudos GW, best post I have ever read. I have been a RW fan all of my rememberable 59 yrs. My Dad has been a RW fan for 75 years. He is now 92 years of age and has always been a religious Red Wing fan. Our monument that awaits our time in the graveyard bares our names and a hugh winged wheel is lazered into the marble. Just to give you some idea how we both feel about our beloved Red Wings.

You should have seen the grin on my Dad's face and the look of approval as I read your post to him. You are obviously like us, with a Winged Wheel tattooed on your heart, that matches the one on your sleeve. My Dad and I tip our hats to you sir and Thank-you GW for a very true and interesting post. Please keep up the good work.

How creative.

Thanks for your concern, but I have a job and life, etc.

I suggest that you don't take the internet and opinions so seriously.
- TwoPieceFeed

You have neither.

Kudos GW, best post I have ever read. I have been a RW fan all of my rememberable 59 yrs. My Dad has been a RW fan for 75 years. He is now 92 years of age and has always been a religious Red Wing fan. Our monument that awaits our time in the graveyard bares our names and a hugh winged wheel is lazered into the marble. Just to give you some idea how we both feel about our beloved Red Wings.

You should have seen the grin on my Dad's face and the look of approval as I read your post to him. You are obviously like us, with a Winged Wheel tattooed on your heart, that matches the one on your sleeve. My Dad and I tip our hats to you sir and Thank-you GW for a very true and interesting post. Please keep up the good work.
- GeoffY

Wow, that's amazing. 75 years a Red Wings fan. I tip my Red Wings hat to your dad and to you as well. You guys suffered through the Darkness with Harkness years. Your dad would've seen Fat Jack Adams rip that great Red Wings team in the 50s apart. So you guys have seen more than me. I've been a Red Wings fan since 1982. The real fans get it. The fake fans like the idiot two piece poop don't. They think the NHL started in 1997 when the Wings won the first Cup in 42 years. They're apologists and lemmings for Ken Holland and can't think for themselves.

This team will be a Cup contender eventually. It might take another 10 years or so. I can handle losing. I just want to see an actual plan in place going forward. A new GM who is hungry and not one who is resting on his laurels and still living in the 90s. A group of players who play motivated even if their coach is a complete moron.

This team needs to evolve with today's game instead of trying to recycle past blueprints for success. Thank you for the kind words.

You have neither.
- gergeswillems

Cool story. Have we met? Didn't think so. Figure it out lol.

Cool story. Have we met? Didn't think so. Figure it out lol.
- TwoPieceFeed

We all figured it out a long time ago. You're a complete moron.

We all figured it out a long time ago. You're a complete moron.
- gergeswillems

Who is "we"? Your cult of pretend Red Wings fans (trolls) on the internet? I'm so embarrassed... Your attempted insults are ironic.

Who is "we"? Your cult of pretend Red Wings fans (trolls) on the internet? I'm so embarrassed... Your attempted insults are ironic.
- TwoPieceFeed

I'm right on the money actually. That's why you're whining about it.

I'm right on the money actually. That's why you're whining about it.
- gergeswillems

How do you hear whining through emotionless and toneless text..? Are you literally retarded?

I'd be interested in having a sit down with you face-to-face to discuss life and the Red Wings, because I'd imagine a mass amount of red-face brain freezes and lack of maturity/composure on your end. Don't deflect the lack of happiness in your life upon me. I'm about to leave work and enjoy the weekend. I'd wish you the same, but you act like a sad sack of worthless crap here, and I couldn't care less about your personal suffering when you attempt to throw that crap on other people.

Grow up and learn to accept that not everyone shares your opinions on anything or everything. Mentally and emotionally graduate from your childlike mental state because nobody (worth anything) is going to give a single sh!t, let alone two, about you or your words/sentences/paragraphs when you provide as much conversational progress as a fart.

How do you hear whining through emotionless and toneless text..? Are you literally retarded?

I'd be interested in having a sit down with you face-to-face to discuss life and the Red Wings, because I'd imagine a mass amount of red-face brain freezes and lack of maturity/composure on your end. Don't deflect the lack of happiness in your life upon me. I'm about to leave work and enjoy the weekend. I'd wish you the same, but you act like a sad sack of worthless crap here, and I couldn't care less about your personal suffering when you attempt to throw that crap on other people.

Grow up and learn to accept that not everyone shares your opinions on anything or everything. Mentally and emotionally graduate from your childlike mental state because nobody (worth anything) is going to give a single sh!t, let alone two, about you or your words/sentences/paragraphs when you provide as much conversational progress as a fart.
- TwoPieceFeed[/Quote]

Aw what's the matter little bully? You can't take criticism? Why don't you cry about it? It seems that's the only thing you're good at. Here's some advice. Sometimes when you stick your beek where it doesn't belong, it might get broken off. Don't hate me because my knowledge of the Red Wings is far greater than yours. You brought this on yourself by how you talk down to other Redwings fans. I've already told you this before. You're an immature mindless twit who can dish it out but can't take it. The truth hurts sometimes. Don't blame me or others here that you're a complete moron. That's your fault. Own it. Your last paragraph is quite comical. You're truly a hypocrite.

How bout them Red Wings.