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Peter Tessier
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 15 @ 11:55 AM ET
Peter Tessier: Social Media gone horribly wrong #AskaJet In light of the postponement of the Jets' game versus the Devils the Winnipeg Jets social media team did a Q and A with Nic Petan. It did not go well.
CorydonKeith
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 01.22.2014

Mar 15 @ 12:22 PM ET
Oh my God - too funny
.
Here's what Jets fans are living for right now:

- can Laine win the Richard ?
- can Laine reach 50 goals in his first season ?
- can Scheifs finish top 5 in points and gain the recognition he deserves ?
- can Ehlers finish top 25 in pts ?

Yup - that's where we're at
.
Here's hoping we can bamboozle the draft lottery once more !
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 15 @ 12:25 PM ET
For the rest of the season, I would like to see the Jets try the following forward lines.

Petan-Scheifele-Wheeler
Ehlers-Little-Laine
Dano-Perrault-Armia
Copp-Lowry-Matthias

They should also change up their power play units:

Unit 1

Laine-Scheifele-Wheeler
Ehlers-Byfuglien

Unit 2

Perrault-Little-Armia
Petan-Trouba

Just my thoughts...
houseofcards74
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Royal Oak, MI
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 15 @ 12:31 PM ET
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 15 @ 12:36 PM ET
Peter Tessier: Social Media gone horribly wrong #AskaJet
In light of the postponement of the Jets' game versus the Devils the Winnipeg Jets social media team did a Q and A with Nic Petan. It did not go well.

- Peter.Tessier

If the Jets could throw the game tomorrow...

IggyOnly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 12.01.2006

Mar 15 @ 4:54 PM ET
Meanwhile in Winnipeg, sports team does dumb social media idea & fans lower the bar further than anyone could have predicted #askajet
— Peter Tessier (@Teddier) March 14, 2017

And you went ahead and not only wrote about it but included a bunch of the tweets. You see an issue here?
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Mar 15 @ 5:34 PM ET
Slow day in the newsroom.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 15 @ 6:26 PM ET
http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...sees-rich-playoff-future/

Interesting read on Dustin Byfuglien.
justsaying
Joined: 06.26.2014

Mar 15 @ 6:56 PM ET
Glad to see Petan get some support. He must produce despite given few opportunities.

I see no reason why this team will be better next year with the same head coach. The players can't or won't play defence.

If Thorburn, Stewart and Pavelec remain next year then it's over before the season starts.

How hard can it be to understand that taking penalties is bad?

Major problem unique to the Jets. Few players want to live in Winnipeg.

An NHL goalie will be a first for this organization when one is signed.

Winning is the only thing that matters.
Peter Tessier
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 15 @ 7:14 PM ET
Meanwhile in Winnipeg, sports team does dumb social media idea & fans lower the bar further than anyone could have predicted #askajet
— Peter Tessier (@Teddier) March 14, 2017

And you went ahead and not only wrote about it but included a bunch of the tweets. You see an issue here?

- IggyOnly



No, what do you see?
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Mar 15 @ 9:03 PM ET
TheUltimateJet

Love that lineup. Maybe flip the wingers on the bottom 2 lines tho. Petan needs some love right now.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Mar 15 @ 10:34 PM ET
While not related to the Petan article , I came across this article by Garret Hohl from JetsNation ( not related to my name BTW) . Excellent article with regards to which Jets are the keepers on this team. A few surprises in there . Postma in particular. Also for those of you who don't think Perreault is a valuable member of the team then you should think twice.

https://jetsnation.ca/201...weaknesses-in-each-skater
Octavarium
New York Islanders
Joined: 01.03.2007

Mar 16 @ 8:08 AM ET
No, what do you see?
- Peter.Tessier



he's pointing out the irresponsibility of the media in general

the jets media people gave the disgruntled a voice - then you had to make sure if it was heard the first time, it would make some more news the second.

What you should have done, is sorta like what MLB does when a naked fan runs on the field. Nothing. They don't show it, and barely acknowledge it.


Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 16 @ 10:36 AM ET
While not related to the Petan article , I came across this article by Garret Hohl from JetsNation ( not related to my name BTW) . Excellent article with regards to which Jets are the keepers on this team. A few surprises in there . Postma in particular. Also for those of you who don't think Perreault is a valuable member of the team then you should think twice.

https://jetsnation.ca/201...weaknesses-in-each-skater

- jetsnation


so Postma is better than Morrisey and Perrault is better than Little ( by a lot!! ) sounds about right hey?

I like to use this new upcomming metric called the "eye test" it requires you to actually have to watch hockey though, i know that sounds out of this world for some of these metric folks but it's an absolute must.

when going with the new "eye test" i to found some interesting metrics. Perrault for example plays better when on the top two lines where he becomes completely invisible, almost like a magic trick when playing with lesser players on the bottom two lines. Can you believe it? or are you as shocked as me? also, the "Eye Test" shows how Perrault actaully has little to no finish, again, mind is blown!! I think us hockey fans may have to turn off the computers and start giving this "eye test" some serious considerations.
sparky1957
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 11.03.2016

Mar 16 @ 11:44 AM ET
For the rest of the season, I would like to see the Jets try the following forward lines.

Petan-Scheifele-Wheeler
Ehlers-Little-Laine
Dano-Perrault-Armia
Copp-Lowry-Matthias

They should also change up their power play units:

Unit 1

Laine-Scheifele-Wheeler
Ehlers-Byfuglien

Unit 2

Perrault-Little-Armia
Petan-Trouba

Just my thoughts...

- TheUltimateJet

4 right hand shots on unit 1? Don't think so
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 16 @ 12:00 PM ET
4 right hand shots on unit 1? Don't think so
- sparky1957



The Capitals have 3 right side shots on their unit 1. Maurice has been using 4 left side shots on the power play. What's the difference?

Wheeler, Scheifele, and Ehlers can all create offence and all three can score as well. I think there is way too much made of what side players shoot the puck from.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 16 @ 12:10 PM ET
so Postma is better than Morrisey and Perrault is better than Little ( by a lot!! ) sounds about right hey?

I like to use this new upcomming metric called the "eye test" it requires you to actually have to watch hockey though, i know that sounds out of this world for some of these metric folks but it's an absolute must.

when going with the new "eye test" i to found some interesting metrics. Perrault for example plays better when on the top two lines where he becomes completely invisible, almost like a magic trick when playing with lesser players on the bottom two lines. Can you believe it? or are you as shocked as me? also, the "Eye Test" shows how Perrault actaully has little to no finish, again, mind is blown!! I think us hockey fans may have to turn off the computers and start giving this "eye test" some serious considerations.

- Ross77


Ross77, you seem to like the word "eye test". I dedicate the following song to you:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zETVr04XUE4
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Mar 16 @ 2:53 PM ET
Couple a' problems with your assessment there, Ross.

1: the stats nerds you hate so much almost certainly watch more hockey than any of us, and the numbers generally match up with what happens on the ice... which leads me to point 2

2: you're precious "eye test" is completely subjective, and reliant entirely on your personal ability to evaluate the game. It's completely random. The numbers, however, never lie, and can't be swayed by personal opinion.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 16 @ 4:44 PM ET
Couple a' problems with your assessment there, Ross.

1: the stats nerds you hate so much almost certainly watch more hockey than any of us, and the numbers generally match up with what happens on the ice... which leads me to point 2

2: you're precious "eye test" is completely subjective, and reliant entirely on your personal ability to evaluate the game. It's completely random. The numbers, however, never lie, and can't be swayed by personal opinion.

- Rexypoo

First off, my assessment was comical
Secondly, so you are saying Perrault is better than little? Wow!!
Thirdly, I follow real stats, you know, goals, assists, points, not rick paper scissor stats.
Postma sucks!! And if you can't see that then you don't watch hockey. Perrault is over rated by jets fans and will not live up to his next deal.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 16 @ 4:54 PM ET
Couple a' problems with your assessment there, Ross.

1: the stats nerds you hate so much almost certainly watch more hockey than any of us, and the numbers generally match up with what happens on the ice... which leads me to point 2

2: you're precious "eye test" is completely subjective, and reliant entirely on your personal ability to evaluate the game. It's completely random. The numbers, however, never lie, and can't be swayed by personal opinion.

- Rexypoo

When you say the eye test is subjective,is that the same as postma only playing against other team's fourth line and only getting on the ice when the face off is in the offensive zone? Or is that somehow different. Do metrics measure that postma has never won a one on one battle in the corner or in front of net?
I read an a great article ( I will try and find it and post it ). It was from 2015, it was predicting which top ten players would have break out years Ailey based on metrics and anylitics. Out of the ten they listed, only one actually went on to have the break out year. I'll take my eye test over metrics anyday!!!
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Mar 16 @ 6:18 PM ET
At no point did I say Perreault was better than Little. But I absolutely believe that Perreault has performed better in his role than Little has this year. Little is the perfect 2C. Perreault can play anywhere, on any line, and with anyone and still be effective. I can't understand how Laine isn't on a line with those two as they are possession darlings whom can carry him when he's not scoring.

The stats actually do show Postma's success with defensive battles as he allows fewer shots on his net than anyone he's been partnered with, and by a substantial margin, implying that he has fewer battles as the puck is in his zone less often with him on the ice then with him off. If he lost that many battles, it would be reflected by an increase in scoring chances for the other team with him on the ice both in relation to the team, and to his partner. This evidence does not exist. In fact, the evidence shows the opposite happening. Again, saying you follow the "real stats" would show you that Postma has produced more than Stuart and Chairot combined, with fewer minutes, while being the only + player of the trio. He also has far fewer giveaways, meaning your assessment of Postma is incorrect by both your standard AND mine.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Mar 16 @ 6:18 PM ET
At no point did I say Perreault was better than Little. But I absolutely believe that Perreault has performed better in his role than Little has this year. Little is the perfect 2C. Perreault can play anywhere, on any line, and with anyone and still be effective. I can't understand how Laine isn't on a line with those two as they are possession darlings whom can carry him when he's not scoring.

The stats actually do show Postma's success with defensive battles as he allows fewer shots on his net than anyone he's been partnered with, and by a substantial margin, implying that he has fewer battles as the puck is in his zone less often with him on the ice then with him off. If he lost that many battles, it would be reflected by an increase in scoring chances for the other team with him on the ice both in relation to the team, and to his partner. This evidence does not exist. In fact, the evidence shows the opposite happening. Again, saying you follow the "real stats" would show you that Postma has produced more than Stuart and Chairot combined, with fewer minutes, while being the only + player of the trio. He also has far fewer giveaways, meaning your assessment of Postma is incorrect by both your standard AND mine.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 16 @ 7:43 PM ET
At no point did I say Perreault was better than Little. But I absolutely believe that Perreault has performed better in his role than Little has this year. Little is the perfect 2C. Perreault can play anywhere, on any line, and with anyone and still be effective. I can't understand how Laine isn't on a line with those two as they are possession darlings whom can carry him when he's not scoring.

The stats actually do show Postma's success with defensive battles as he allows fewer shots on his net than anyone he's been partnered with, and by a substantial margin, implying that he has fewer battles as the puck is in his zone less often with him on the ice then with him off. If he lost that many battles, it would be reflected by an increase in scoring chances for the other team with him on the ice both in relation to the team, and to his partner. This evidence does not exist. In fact, the evidence shows the opposite happening. Again, saying you follow the "real stats" would show you that Postma has produced more than Stuart and Chairot combined, with fewer minutes, while being the only + player of the trio. He also has far fewer giveaways, meaning your assessment of Postma is incorrect by both your standard AND mine.

- Rexypoo
bottom line, if you believe in metrics than you believe the jets are better off with Perrault and postma over little an morrisey. Can't have it both ways.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 16 @ 7:51 PM ET
Postma sucks and would go unclaimed through waivers
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Mar 16 @ 8:04 PM ET
No, Ross, that's not what that means. It means that in the role they play, they excel. It does not mean that Morrissey isn't as good as Postma. It means that Postma excels on the bottom pairing while Morrissey holds his own on the top pairing.
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