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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:05 PM ET
Michael Pachla: Will Buffalo have room for Evander Kane and a d-man like Shattenkirk?
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:09 PM ET
First!

Great topic.

We may have to "suffer" another year, however I'm all for purging the team of the dead weight.
Not sure if we'll have the $$$ for the Shattenkirk's of the NHL going into next season.

But the number one goal this offseason for GMTM should be removing all the dead weight by any means necessary.
Yikes726
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 03.22.2013

Mar 13 @ 4:17 PM ET
And if you're right, and all this happens, is this a playoff roster?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:19 PM ET
And if you're right, and all this happens, is this a playoff roster?
- Yikes726

yes...and, thx for reeding
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:21 PM ET
And if you're right, and all this happens, is this a playoff roster?
- Yikes726

That's the major question. We don't know.

It's not even are they a playoff team, it's are they a cup contender, which is what we suffered for
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:21 PM ET
I like the exercise, Pach, but there's something about Shattenkirk that doesn't give me the hip hip hooray.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:22 PM ET
That's the major question. We don't know.

It's not even are they a playoff team, it's are they a cup contender, which is what we suffered for?

- sbroads24


I still enjoy watching.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:24 PM ET
What a year so far..how's everyone been?
- Beezer33


How's witness protection been...?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:27 PM ET
I still enjoy watching.
- Der Kaiser

I do too. For Eichel mostly.

But middling like this will get very tedious if it goes into next season.

They sold suffering because it would(or should) lead to contending.

missthenords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 12.14.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:27 PM ET
Michael Pachla: Will Buffalo have room for Evander Kane and a d-man like Shattenkirk?
- Michael Pachla


Hey Pach, where is the Captain Gionta on this list???
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:29 PM ET
Also, as far as the blog goes, I think Reinhart gets 5-5.5 on a bridge, and Lehner get's a bridge as well. Those short term deals, along with McCabe's, will eventually be raised.

jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Mar 13 @ 4:29 PM ET
flabbergasted.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:30 PM ET
And if you're right, and all this happens, is this a playoff roster?
- Yikes726



Minus 4-5 pieces of dead weight and add 2 middle pairing on defense who can hod their own, and this is definitely a playoff team.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:31 PM ET
I do too. For Eichel mostly.

But middling like this will get very tedious if it goes into next season.

They sold suffering because it would(or should) lead to contending.

- sbroads24


Oh, I wasn't talking about hockey.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:34 PM ET
Oh, I wasn't talking about hockey.
- Der Kaiser

Oh, you mean goulash?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:34 PM ET
Also, as far as the blog goes, I think Reinhart gets 5-5.5 on a bridge, and Lehner get's a bridge as well. Those short term deals, along with McCabe's, will eventually be raised.
- sbroads24


Unless they play hardball, I can see $5M being the number for Sam after next season, especially if he improves like I think he will.

As far as the roster Pach laid out, I just don't trust Kane enough to not revert to his past to give him any kind of long term deal, even if said deal was 'only' at $6M per.

Unless there is a miracle, I don't think there is any way they can truly be a contending team with Bogo anywhere but the bottom pairing.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Mar 13 @ 4:40 PM ET
Bills are not tanking
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:40 PM ET
Michael Pachla: Will Buffalo have room for Evander Kane and a d-man like Shattenkirk?
- Michael Pachla



assuming its coming via trade probably will have to move someone like kane to make it work


if we're talking specifically shattenkirk probably not unless you get a major discount somewhere else
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Mar 13 @ 4:42 PM ET
Shattenkirk is already signed by the rangers
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:42 PM ET
Unless they play hardball, I can see $5M being the number for Sam after next season, especially if he improves like I think he will.

As far as the roster Pach laid out, I just don't trust Kane enough to not revert to his past to give him any kind of long term deal, even if said deal was 'only' at $6M per.

Unless there is a miracle, I don't think there is any way they can truly be a contending team with Bogo anywhere but the bottom pairing.

- kingcong39


same
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:43 PM ET
Unless they play hardball, I can see $5M being the number for Sam after next season, especially if he improves like I think he will.

As far as the roster Pach laid out, I just don't trust Kane enough to not revert to his past to give him any kind of long term deal, even if said deal was 'only' at $6M per.

Unless there is a miracle, I don't think there is any way they can truly be a contending team with Bogo anywhere but the bottom pairing.

- kingcong39

I don't either, but I also think it's tough to walk from this current production.

I'd still trade him if a top 3 D man is available, because wingers are moved every single year and we will find another one.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:43 PM ET
Oh, you mean goulash?
- sbroads24



That went WAAAAYYYYYY too long IMO.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:45 PM ET
That went WAAAAYYYYYY too long IMO.
- Der Kaiser

We still talkin bout watching?
Tinkleman11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PA
Joined: 01.20.2015

Mar 13 @ 4:49 PM ET
I hope they don"t go after Shattenkirk. He is a younger version of Franson. Third pair power play specialist who is not defensively responsible. 7 mil a year is reserved for top pair, play in any situation, shut down defensman. I belive he was hovering around negative 17, while playing for the blues this year. Yikes!
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:54 PM ET
I hope they don"t go after Shattenkirk. He is a younger version of Franson. Third pair power play specialist who is not defensively responsible. 7 mil a year is reserved for top pair, play in any situation, shut down defensman. I belive he was hovering around negative 17, while playing for the blues this year. Yikes!
- Tinkleman11



i mean, hes -1 now so either hes had just some kind of incredible week+ with the caps or....


And yea i guess hes like franson except for the part where shattenkrik can actually skate...and pass...and i dont think he even saw that much powerplay time with the blues.
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