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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 25 @ 11:50 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Stadium Series Wrap: All-too-Familiar Story in Flyers' 4-2 Loss to Pens
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 25 @ 11:58 PM ET
Not sure why Hextall likes his team so much. They (frank)ing blow.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 26 @ 12:00 AM ET
When the game was still in doubt wtf was Weiss doing passing up a shot from 15 feet out with the puck on his forehand ?? What an bumhole.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 26 @ 12:05 AM ET
Not sure why Hextall likes his team so much. They (frank)ing blow.
- landros 2

Well it's not like laying into them is going to help any possible trade value any of our guys do have.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 26 @ 12:05 AM ET
I thought they played well. Two dumb penalties costed the Flyers and it didnt help that they called a bull slashing call on Simmonds who was batting at the puck. Time to get Mason back in net as well.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 26 @ 12:09 AM ET
Craptastic again
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 26 @ 12:12 AM ET
When the game was still in doubt wtf was Weiss doing passing up a shot from 15 feet out with the puck on his forehand ?? What an bumhole.
- mrpaulish


I'm sorry you had to watch that.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 26 @ 12:20 AM ET
Thought morin looked good tonight. Positioning was fine and was really effective taking away the puck. Hagg looked ok and pretty dangerous offensively. Sanheim ok. Needs a bit more work in his own end in tight quarters.

Starting to think there's not much reason to be protecting Laughton. He's just frustrating.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 26 @ 12:21 AM ET


Join General Patton and I. Very spacious and comfortable in here.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Feb 26 @ 12:26 AM ET
Not sure why Hextall likes his team so much. They (frank)ing blow.
- landros 2

Do you think he's going to say he doesn't like the team? His actions should tell the story. He refuses to add significant players via free agency or deadline deals because he knows this team is nowhere near being a true contender even if they do make the playoffs.

He's made his plan pretty clear and has preached patience. Many don't like it and definitely not used to it
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Feb 26 @ 12:28 AM ET
Coots has been given the chance to be an offensive player. He's just not. I'm also not sold that he's fantastic defensively either. Also, the 10 game win streak; a lot occurred while he was out. The putrid hockey has taken place with him in the lineup preceding the 10 game win streak and astonishingly began again shortly after he returned. Coincidence? Probably, but I do find that interesting.

Schenn is asked to be a 20 goal scorer who has physicality. What has Schenn been? A 20 goal scorer who has added physicality. He actually supplies what he is paid to do more than Coots. I just don't understand the Schenn hate and Coots love. The dude is an average to below average hockey player.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 26 @ 12:29 AM ET
Not sure why Hextall likes his team so much. They (frank)ing blow.
- landros 2


Boy did homey do him a number.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Feb 26 @ 12:30 AM ET
Do you think he's going to say he doesn't like the team? His actions should tell the story. He refuses to add significant players via free agency or deadline deals because he knows this team is nowhere near being a true contender even if they do make the playoffs.

He's made his plan pretty clear and has preached patience. Many don't like it and definitely not used to it

- FlyerFan16

It's not that they don't like patience, but it needs direction. There is some confusion in terms of that direction. A lot of teams haven't preached patience and they are tops in the league.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Feb 26 @ 12:38 AM ET
It's not that they don't like patience, but it needs direction. There is some confusion in terms of that direction. A lot of teams haven't preached patience and they are tops in the league.
- Flyers1218

It seems to me there is a clear direction. Only time will tell if the direction works. Expect 2 or 3 more young guys next year. Hope Provorov has a second year better than Ghost and hope Ghost bounces back. 2 or 3 more kids the next year. Not all the kids will work out. When Hextall feels they're ready to contend he will start to add pieces through FA or trades.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Feb 26 @ 12:43 AM ET
It seems to me there is a clear direction. Only time will tell if the direction works. Expect 2 or 3 more young guys next year. Hope Provorov has a second year better than Ghost and hope Ghost bounces back. 2 or 3 more kids the next year. Not all the kids will work out. When Hextall feels they're ready to contend he will start to add pieces through FA or trades.
- FlyerFan16

He's got defensive prospects for sure. But his forward core is a mess right now. His goaltending is a disaster with prospects way too far out to help. And a coach who has been outclassed all year. If you compare this season with last season, people have more questions about the future of this team then last year, which is hard to imagine.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 26 @ 12:45 AM ET
Coots has been given the chance to be an offensive player. He's just not. I'm also not sold that he's fantastic defensively either.
- Flyers1218


puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 26 @ 12:47 AM ET
It seems to me there is a clear direction. Only time will tell if the direction works. Expect 2 or 3 more young guys next year. Hope Provorov has a second year better than Ghost and hope Ghost bounces back. 2 or 3 more kids the next year. Not all the kids will work out. When Hextall feels they're ready to contend he will start to add pieces through FA or trades.
- FlyerFan16


That's whats bothersome, he can take as long as he wants to keep sucking, and drafting, (and upcoming draft is considered weak).
In the meantime, the players that were considered main pieces are no longer looking like core players.
by the time he's done building his defensive big 4, the front will require the same the same process, and then what?
We continue to suck, and draft upfront?
Frustrating!
It's like the logo on the front looks like a joke now.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 26 @ 12:50 AM ET
Some people laugh at me on here when I say it, but I've said it before and I'll say it again: Bellemare could do what Coots does for 1/4 the cost. They're pretty similar players, and I actually think Bellemare might be better defensively. And during the win streak, he did fill that role, and we won. People can criticize me for saying it, but the truth is the truth. People get way too attached to dime a dozen guys like Coots. If we could trade him for a goalie like Rinne or Bishop even, I would in a heartbeat.
- Mononoke


I'm not big on Coots these days, but he has scored 40 points in this league.
Bellemare has hands that actually "clank" while stick handling.
He has no hands
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Feb 26 @ 12:50 AM ET
Some people laugh at me on here when I say it, but I've said it before and I'll say it again: Bellemare could do what Coots does for 1/4 the cost. They're pretty similar players, and I actually think Bellemare might be better defensively. And during the win streak, he did fill that role, and we won. People can criticize me for saying it, but the truth is the truth. People get way too attached to dime a dozen guys like Coots. If we could trade him for a goalie like Rinne or Bishop even, I would in a heartbeat.
- Mononoke

We could have had Shea Weber.... sigh.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 26 @ 12:50 AM ET
no logic for starting 30 six games straight. he's not been good enough for that. he SUCKED tonight, and they lost because of it and Murray was good at the other end.

not a single shot on goal for G. oh i know, he tried. but he apparently likes the hitting the glass from the half circle. weise was the other one without a shot. not that it's a huge deal, but he a good chance on the 2 on 1 and wires it to the covered weak side guy which of course gets deflected and goes out of play.

they played well enough to win through 2 periods. i give them credit for making it close. but those two 3rd period goals against were pure garbage. i'll give him a pass on the 2nd goal, but i think it was stoppable. he got a piece of it.

what a (frank)ing dumpster fire this team is. i hope hextall can unload as many players as possible. not thrilled with hakstol either.

FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Feb 26 @ 12:51 AM ET
He's got defensive prospects for sure. But his forward core is a mess right now. His goaltending is a disaster with prospects way too far out to help. And a coach who has been outclassed all year. If you compare this season with last season, people have more questions about the future of this team then last year, which is hard to imagine.
- Flyers1218

People have questions because they're not seeing immediate results. Next year won't be any different. Hopefully he drops the VDVs of the team and let the Leiers and Laughton's prove one way or another the future with this team.

I don't think Hakstol is going anywhere anytime soon either. I'm guessing he gets all of next year as well.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 26 @ 12:52 AM ET
Some people laugh at me on here when I say it, but I've said it before and I'll say it again: Bellemare could do what Coots does for 1/4 the cost. They're pretty similar players, and I actually think Bellemare might be better defensively. And during the win streak, he did fill that role, and we won. People can criticize me for saying it, but the truth is the truth. People get way too attached to dime a dozen guys like Coots. If we could trade him for a goalie like Rinne or Bishop even, I would in a heartbeat.
- Mononoke


i'm not attached to coots. at all. bye.

not interested in either goalie, but would choose rinne over bishop due to durability.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 26 @ 12:53 AM ET
People have questions because they're not seeing immediate results. Next year won't be any different. Hopefully he drops the VDVs of the team and let the Leiers and Laughton's prove one way or another the future with this team.

I don't think Hakstol is going anywhere anytime soon either. I'm guessing he gets all of next year as well.

- FlyerFan16


i think he'll get next year. if they stay stagnant or regress, my guess is he'll get canned. i know snider isn't around to freak everyone out, but i don't believe hextall has THAT much patience. i could be wrong.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Feb 26 @ 12:53 AM ET
That's whats bothersome, he can take as long as he wants to keep sucking, and drafting, (and upcoming draft is considered weak).
In the meantime, the players that were considered main pieces are no longer looking like core players.
by the time he's done building his defensive big 4, the front will require the same the same process, and then what?
We continue to suck, and draft upfront?
Frustrating!
It's like the logo on the front looks like a joke now.

- puckhead17

Exactly. I liked it when teams didn't want to play the Flyers, and I've got news for you, it wasn't that long ago. The Rangers, Penguins, Caps, and Devils are all far too comfortable when they play us. I'm sick of it. We are the (frank)ing Philadelphia Flyers. Let's start (frank)ing acting like it.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 26 @ 12:54 AM ET
i think he'll get next year. if they stay stagnant or regress, my guess is he'll get canned. i know snider isn't around to freak everyone out, but i don't believe hextall has THAT much patience. i could be wrong.

- hammarby31


Having no Snider is what is worrisome, because he can take as long a process as he wants, with zero pressure.
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