Jason Millen: Reports are that Shattenkirk nixed another trade deal Reports are that Shattenkirk nixed another trade deal

As frustrating as it is, if he is refusing to sign an extension, he's earned that right.

As frustrating as it is, if he is refusing to sign an extension, he's earned that right.
- Antilles

I still can't understand how teams allow these situations to happen. The Blues should have either extended him or traded him during the summer. Now they're faced with trading him and disrupting the team or keeping him and letting him walk after the seasons over.

Just seems like poor management of a great asset.

He's going to Edmonton, and he's gonna like it.

Shatty wants $50M from the Rangers.

I still can't understand how teams allow these situations to happen. The Blues should have either extended him or traded him during the summer. Now they're faced with trading him and disrupting the team or keeping him and letting him walk after the seasons over.

Just seems like poor management of a great asset.
- madmike71

He wouldn't sign an extension, he wants to be a UFA.

Teams wouldn't offer a decent package unless he would sign an extension.

I'm not sure why it's that hard for you to understand lol.

He wouldn't sign an extension, he wants to be a UFA.

Teams wouldn't offer a decent package unless he would sign an extension.

I'm not sure why it's that hard for you to understand lol.
- Antilles

My point is the Blues should have traded him in the summer when he refused an extension. You would have gotten a better package than you'll get now. So now, they'll be trading for a worse package while disrupting the team as they head into the playoffs. I just think that's the worst possible outcome.

My point is the Blues should have traded him in the summer when he refused an extension. You would have gotten a better package than you'll get now. So now, they'll be trading for a worse package while disrupting the team as they head into the playoffs. I just think that's the worst possible outcome.
- madmike71

We have no idea if they will get a better or worse deal now. Teams who didn't expect to be contenders this summer think they are now. GM's who weren't worried about getting fired if they miss the playoffs might be feeling pressure now. Blues gambled, we have no idea if it will pay off.

But if disrupting the team was a concern for teams before playoffs, you wouldn't see every contender trying to do so by upgrading at whatever position of need they have. These are big boys. They can handle it.

He wouldn't sign an extension, he wants to be a UFA.

Teams wouldn't offer a decent package unless he would sign an extension.

I'm not sure why it's that hard for you to understand lol.
- Antilles


My point is the Blues should have traded him in the summer when he refused an extension. You would have gotten a better package than you'll get now. So now, they'll be trading for a worse package while disrupting the team as they head into the playoffs. I just think that's the worst possible outcome.

Going back even into the summer, the apparent preferred landing spots for him in the East don't have salary cap space (Rangers), prospects/fits for the Blues' needs (Penguins, Bruins), or have enough young offensively-minded d-men that they didn't feel the need to jump into the conversation (Flyers, Blue Jackets). So many teams bumping against the salary cap doesn't help trading at all, either. I think the lack of flexibility hampers the league's buzz personally, love the old school trade deadline dealing, but in return, we get relative parity league-wide.

Also, think you are discounting the importance of some playoff game revenue to the Blues, who don't have the sweetest of deals for concessions, media and ticket taxes that other teams have helping prop up their business sides. I can see why Armstrong would hold onto him all year unless he got a package he felt was fair value. Making the playoffs and hopefully winning a series can really help the Blues' bottom line.

Welcome to NJ Kevin!

Rags will have to get creative cap wise (i think) to fit him on roster, i think another team wins his services instead.
But besides that, Shatty should at least accommodate team by accepting a trade and has his right to not negotiate ......

"Shatty should at least accommodate team by accepting a trade and has his right to not negotiate"

He doesn't have a NTC. The Blues simply can't get a good package for him as a rental, he's not holding up anything.

"Shatty should at least accommodate team by accepting a trade and has his right to not negotiate"

He doesn't have a NTC. The Blues simply can't get a good package for him as a rental, he's not holding up anything.
- dashripdot

Then move him then, if Gm feels team is slipping away from PO's get whatever u can....

Then move him then, if Gm feels team is slipping away from PO's get whatever u can....
- Ur Not Me

He doesn't think they're slipping out of the playoffs, he's just trying to get the highest value back

Tough situation for Armstrong
He gambled and lost with Backes and Brouwer last deadline.

Now this debockle
Can't be great for team chemistry either.

I think you take the heat now and move him for whatever you can to a desperate GM
Like Bergivin in Montreal who's trying to save his own job.

Tough situation for Armstrong
He gambled and lost with Backes and Brouwer last deadline.

Now this debockle
Can't be great for team chemistry either.

I think you take the heat now and move him for whatever you can to a desperate GM
Like Bergivin in Montreal who's trying to save his own job.
- Colbyboy

Armstrong did this to himself. Once he knew the organization and/or Shattenkirk didn't want to extend his contract, he should have dealt him for the best offer. The trade deadline is not the time to expect to get a haul for a pending UFA (especially when your team is likely to be heading into the playoffs).

Why couldnt the Rangers fit Shattenkirk?

(frank) you, pooptenkirk.

Why couldnt the Rangers fit Shattenkirk?
- YuenglingJagr

4 or 5 players will be up for big raises including Hayes and Miller and Skjei. Cap not really going up much. They may need to look at moving Stepan before his NMC and $6.5 kicks in or, if that doesn't work, beg someone to take one of the terrible D contracts and hope Klein gets picked by LV.

4 or 5 players will be up for big raises including Hayes and Miller and Skjei. Cap not really going up much. They may need to look at moving Stepan before his NMC and $6.5 kicks in or, if that doesn't work, beg someone to take one of the terrible D contracts and hope Klein gets picked by LV.
- jnyfive

I meant for the rest of this season, I agree with that though. They do have the buyout option too, but I think they can offload a contract or two (unfortunately it isn't the big ones though.) The big extensions you're talking about wouldnt be until the following season though

So the reality is Shattenkirk is a rental and that's what the blues can expect in a trade. The exception is the Blueskirts who might want to gamble once Kevin visits Broadway he will want to stay...

Tampa would have given him good money.... oh well. We'll end getting a 1st or a 2nd and possibly a rental forward for him.

Shatty is looking for way more on the fa market

So the reality is Shattenkirk is a rental and that's what the blues can expect in a trade.
- Queenie_5_hole

Shattenkirk is worth more than Ladd. Ladd rental cost a top end prospect & a first.

Shattenkirk is worth far more than Sekera. Sekera rental cost a prospect and a first.

Rental price is what most have been saying Armstrong is looking for. Top end prospect and a first.

He also turned down or the team did to Arizona last summer, apparently willing to only go to toronto or Montreal, as far as canadian teans,but preferably to a new york area base team believe that montreal has the pieces in place to land and sign him, toronto is in it but Montreal is my bet! Macarron ans a 1st and a d prospect, shatty signs for 7×7?