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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Feb 22 @ 2:48 PM ET
Carol Schram: The Latest on the Vancouver Canucks' Trade Bait - Miller, Hansen, Burrows As bye week drags on, chatter continues around the possibility of trade-deadline deals for the Vancouver Canucks involving any or all of Ryan Miller, Jannik Hansen and Alex Burrows.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Feb 22 @ 2:51 PM ET
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Feb 22 @ 2:55 PM ET
thanks for the update
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 22 @ 2:56 PM ET
Breath of fresh air.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 22 @ 3:09 PM ET
Thanks Carol,

So essentially the Canucks look to stand pat again, thanks for ruining my day
bryndog
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 3:09 PM ET
Darren Archibald has not had an NHL contract for the last 2 seasons and cannot be called up unless the Canucks re-sign him, which I doubt would happen.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 22 @ 3:14 PM ET
Thanks Carol...I've been saying for months that we won't make a trade. It's not rocket science undesirable assets, NTC and a looming expansion draft = inactive deadline.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 22 @ 3:15 PM ET
Thanks Carol...I've been saying for months that we won't make a trade. It's not rocket science undesirable assets, NTC and a looming expansion draft = inactive deadline.
- CanuckDon


I am with you. I think that Sellers are going to push for trades, but buyers will stand pat with expansion draft looming. Unfortunutely it is a bad year to suck and be sellers.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Feb 22 @ 3:22 PM ET
Would be very very nice to see Brock play a couple games especially if we fall out of the playoff race relatively soon
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 22 @ 3:23 PM ET
I am with you. I think that Sellers are going to push for trades, but buyers will stand pat with expansion draft looming. Unfortunutely it is a bad year to suck and be sellers.
- Codes1087

100%...I'm secretly looking forward to the freak out though. My favorite is when fans say they are done with the organization
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Feb 22 @ 3:24 PM ET
Darren Archibald has not had an NHL contract for the last 2 seasons and cannot be called up unless the Canucks re-sign him, which I doubt would happen.
- bryndog


Aaah - good catch, thanks! I suspect you're right.

The Canucks are currently at 46 of the maximum 50 NHL contracts. It's far more likely that they'd use those remaining slots to sign NCAA free agents and/or Brock Boeser than to bring up a player like Archibald.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 22 @ 3:25 PM ET
Hey Carol

Just wanted to be the first to thank you for the new blog
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Feb 22 @ 3:27 PM ET
Would be very very nice to see Brock play a couple games especially if we fall out of the playoff race relatively soon
- NorthNuck


Johnny Gaudreau played his first NHL game for the Flames against the Canucks at the very end of the 2013-14 season—and he scored.

That's my dream for Boeser.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 22 @ 3:31 PM ET
Hey Carol

Just wanted to be the first to thank you for the new blog

- twiztedmike

No doubt...we had the same number of pages as the Leafs current rebuild.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 22 @ 3:34 PM ET
Would be very very nice to see Brock play a couple games especially if we fall out of the playoff race relatively soon
- NorthNuck


no more burning up years of ELC for a dozen games. I didn't like it when Tryamkin did it, I think it sends the wrong message to prospects. I see why they were more inclined to do it with him in the KHL, but we should not start that trend.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 3:34 PM ET
Thanks Carol...I've been saying for months that we won't make a trade. It's not rocket science undesirable assets, NTC and a looming expansion draft = inactive deadline.
- CanuckDon


Some teams will make moves, some wont.

I think Benning does something but it will be of very little significance.

belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 3:35 PM ET
no more burning up years of ELC for a dozen games. I didn't like it when Tryamkin did it, I think it sends the wrong message to prospects. I see why they were more inclined to do it with him in the KHL, but we should not start that trend.
- Codes1087


It's one of the few tools a team has to impress their prospects. I think it will continue to happen.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 22 @ 3:36 PM ET
Some teams will make moves, some wont.

I think Benning does something but it will be of very little significance.

- belcherbd

What can/ will he do?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 22 @ 3:36 PM ET
no more burning up years of ELC for a dozen games. I didn't like it when Tryamkin did it, I think it sends the wrong message to prospects. I see why they were more inclined to do it with him in the KHL, but we should not start that trend.
- Codes1087


I'd be in favor of signing him and playing him this year, give him a taste of the pro's, put him in a position to succeed, let him feel a part of the team.

As well all know, we aren't competing for the cup and do not need his ELC advantages for salary cap reasons. But we do need to ensure he signs.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 22 @ 3:38 PM ET
It's one of the few tools a team has to impress their prospects. I think it will continue to happen.
- belcherbd


Absolutely no reason to do it though. Say Boesers season ends, school is done, we are for sure out of the playoffs, why bring him on to a losing team to experience 10 games a burn a year?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 22 @ 3:39 PM ET
Thank you Carol great stuff!!!

Miller...it's been a slice dude enjoy the humidity in Cali hopefully ice quality doesn't factor into your PO run in LA...if they make the PO's that is.

Burrows...thx so much for your hard work and efforts. You've turned into a great example and leader post Kesler and wish you nothing but the best in MTL...go get that cup dude. PS - thx for the goal vs CHI in gm 7 2011 round 1...unreal.

Hansen...you have proven to be one of the most versatile Canucks I have ever seen. Sad to see you go but it's time...good luck on the third or fourth line in PIT. Your talents are needed there badly.

It's a good day!

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 22 @ 3:40 PM ET
I'd be in favor of signing him and playing him this year, give him a taste of the pro's, put him in a position to succeed, let him feel a part of the team.

As well all know, we aren't competing for the cup and do not need his ELC advantages for salary cap reasons. But we do need to ensure he signs.

- dbot


I think GM's and teams should always be mindful of the cap. What if Boeser is signed early and ends up having a first few seasons like Horvat (granted its a win/loss because hes a good player and producing) but paying a player like Horvat or Boeser a year early could effect your cap significantly.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 22 @ 3:42 PM ET
@Don.

Thanks Carol...I've been saying for months that we won't make a trade. It's not rocket science [] undesirable assets, NTC and a looming expansion draft = inactive deadline.

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While your assumption might be correct, your argument is wrong.

Hansen, Burrows and/or Sbisa are generally the exact types of depth players that playoff teams look to make before making a big run.

While everyone remembers the one or two key moves of the TDL, there's typically a plethora of minor deals.

Last year for instance, there were 20 trades involving 38 total players.

Sure, expansion will lower those numbers but playoff teams tend to emphasize their 'win now window' as opposed to potentially losing a bottom 6 forward in the summer, while there is also a surprising number of teams that won't be effected by losing any 'key' forward this summer anyways.

Fact is, the prices will be low, but if Benning manages once again to lose players for nothing, be it through expansion or UFA, that will count as a lose. Pure and simple.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 22 @ 3:45 PM ET
@Don.

Thanks Carol...I've been saying for months that we won't make a trade. It's not rocket science

- Whiskey-Tango[] undesirable assets, NTC and a looming expansion draft = inactive deadline.


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While your assumption might be correct, your argument is wrong.

Hansen, Burrows and/or Sbisa are generally the exact types of depth players that playoff teams look to make before making a big run.

While everyone remembers the one or two key moves of the TDL, there's typically a plethora of minor deals.

Last year for instance, there were 20 trades involving 38 total players.

Sure, expansion will lower those numbers but playoff teams tend to emphasize their 'win now window' as opposed to potentially losing a bottom 6 forward in the summer, while there is also a surprising number of teams that won't be effected by losing any 'key' forward this summer anyways.

Fact is, the prices will be low, but if Benning manages once again to lose players for nothing, be it through expansion or UFA, that will count as a lose. Pure and simple.

Excellent rebuttal

Let's see how this plays out

Over to you, Bob
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 22 @ 3:46 PM ET
Absolutely no reason to do it though. Say Boesers season ends, school is done, we are for sure out of the playoffs, why bring him on to a losing team to experience 10 games a burn a year?
- Codes1087


To entice him to sign, to give him the experience and to market the product.

Lord knows this team is going to want to end on somewhat of a high note in an attempt to re-up ticket sales next season.

It's not as though this team will be facing a cap crunch anytime soon anyways lol.
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