John Jaeckel: Is the corner turned?

Hey John,

some craziness with the site this morning...of all of the new blogs being posted this morning no one could respond but it seems to have corrected itself...finally. Yeah

As always its nice to come here and read real hockey info instead of Kuc in the trib...etc.

So hopefully Dutch/Tatar/Palat


Johnny O? Ek has the Hawks in on him, but have you actually heard anything on that?

Great end to the roadie, a 5-1 trip wow. Too bad they have the bye now that they seem to have gotten out of the doldrums. Great game last night - end to end action.

Now that the thread is working!

Per @ScottPowers (and others):
Blackhawks activate Rozsival from the injured reserve & reassign Forsling, Hinostroza, Kero & Schmaltz druring the bye week

Per @HawksBreakdown:
186 day season.
Schmaltz cap hit=925k
Daily cap hit=$4,973
If he's down for 6 days, that's $30,000 in cap space saved.

AND

Add in Kero, Forsling, & Hinostroza and Chicago will save close to $100,000 in cap space this week by having them in the AHL.

Countered the speed and Oiler rush last night pretty well. Three zone checking was solid. Darling was great given his two-week+ off time.

Now lets see what this stupid five-day layoff does. Wow, another dumb-ass league move. How 'bout cutting back or eliminating the cluster of games in short order instead of this.

Now that the thread is working!

Per @ScottPowers (and others):
Blackhawks activate Rozsival from the injured reserve & reassign Forsling, Hinostroza, Kero & Schmaltz druring the bye week

Per @HawksBreakdown:
186 day season.
Schmaltz cap hit=925k
Daily cap hit=$4,973
If he's down for 6 days, that's $30,000 in cap space saved.

AND

Add in Kero, Forsling, & Hinostroza and Chicago will save close to $100,000 in cap space this week by having them in the AHL.
- Marlowe

More proof they're getting ready to make a move.

Liking the attitude of going for the big name guys who can maybe stick around for 2-3 years. Palat or Dutch on Toews' wing is massive. Especially if it is a guy like Duchene.

More proof they're getting ready to make a move.
- John Jaeckel

John, are they still going to keep Hartman? Or is he expendable now with the new news of Palat/Boyle?

Was at the game last night...some cringe worthy errors early on made it look like we were in for a tough night with tired legs and minds. Great to see them turn it around. Liked the directness on the pp. Toews look good winning some physical battles and showing great vision and determination. I hope the break doesn't sap too much of this positive momentum they have built up.

As always its nice to come here and read real hockey info instead of Kuc in the trib...etc.

So hopefully Dutch/Tatar/Palat


Johnny O? Ek has the Hawks in on him, but have you actually heard anything on that?

Great end to the roadie, a 5-1 trip wow. Too bad they have the bye now that they seem to have gotten out of the doldrums. Great game last night - end to end action.
- DK002

Hey DK, thanks for your patience with the site. I have not heard anything on the Hawks and Oduya.

The Stone rumor won't seem to die but my strong sense is that's unlikely to happen. I can see a minor depth defense move definitely.

Was at the game last night...some cringe worthy errors early on made it look like we were in for a tough night with tired legs and minds. Great to see them turn it around. Liked the directness on the pp. Toews look good winning some physical battles and showing great vision and determination. I hope the break doesn't sap too much of this positive momentum they have built up.
- MadHawker

Agreed, PK has also gotten a lot more aggressive.

Now that the thread is working!

Per @ScottPowers (and others):
Blackhawks activate Rozsival from the injured reserve & reassign Forsling, Hinostroza, Kero & Schmaltz druring the bye week

Per @HawksBreakdown:
186 day season.
Schmaltz cap hit=925k
Daily cap hit=$4,973
If he's down for 6 days, that's $30,000 in cap space saved.

AND

Add in Kero, Forsling, & Hinostroza and Chicago will save close to $100,000 in cap space this week by having them in the AHL.
- Marlowe

Nice moves. Too bad that can't be done with 2, 4, 7, 19, 50, 81 & 88.

I wonder if stan could pry Connauton and say a 5th for Desi and say Pokka

Was at the game last night...some cringe worthy errors early on made it look like we were in for a tough night with tired legs and minds. Great to see them turn it around. Liked the directness on the pp. Toews look good winning some physical battles and showing great vision and determination. I hope the break doesn't sap too much of this positive momentum they have built up.
- MadHawker

First 10 minutes made me nervous it would be a replay of the first game in EDM this year, which I was at (not fun tho the folks there were super nice - before and after their big win). Super glad I it went so much better the second time around. Thinking that them being a more veteran than not team (and some of the guys sent to Rockford playing thru the break) might help keep them from having a bad first game back after the break.

Liking the attitude of going for the big name guys who can maybe stick around for 2-3 years. Palat or Dutch on Toews' wing is massive. Especially if it is a guy like Duchene.
- 93Joe

Question is will Yzerman actually sell this year or will he wait it out like in years past. TB is loaded at LW though and who goes the other way? TB needs some young NHL ready talent to stay below the cap. Motte and ?

Now that the thread is working!

Per @ScottPowers (and others):
Blackhawks activate Rozsival from the injured reserve & reassign Forsling, Hinostroza, Kero & Schmaltz druring the bye week

Per @HawksBreakdown:
186 day season.
Schmaltz cap hit=925k
Daily cap hit=$4,973
If he's down for 6 days, that's $30,000 in cap space saved.

AND

Add in Kero, Forsling, & Hinostroza and Chicago will save close to $100,000 in cap space this week by having them in the AHL.
- Marlowe

I get the moves for cap space saving but does that mean the boys sent down MUST play in any games Rockford plays? The whole point of the break (unintended consequences aside Mr. Bettman), is to give the boys rest.

I'm sure Wiz and others will have a lot more detail on these kids as we get closer to the actual draft, but here is HN's initial ranking for the 2017 class:

http://www.thehockeynews....017-no-sure-thing-at-no-1

Question is will Yzerman actually sell this year or will he wait it out like in years past. TB is loaded at LW though and who goes the other way? TB needs some young NHL ready talent to stay below the cap. Motte and ?
- Assman22

Someone not named Hartman or Kempny.


But in reality, I am guessing it is going to cost say a Hartman, Schmaltz, or Kempny. There looks to be solid winger talent in Fortin and Debrincat looks like he could be a good prospect.

John, are they still going to keep Hartman? Or is he expendable now with the new news of Palat/Boyle?



- 93Joe

What I hear is, ALL teams they are talking to are asking about Hartman and the Hawks unwillingness to include him in anything is a roadblock right now.

I would think to get a guy like Palat, who checks so many boxes,the Hawks are going to have to pony up in terms of at least one top forward prospect (either Schmaltz or Hartman).

While I have not heard this, i think they would really like to keep hartman because—and i am willing now to go out on this limb, if they got a top LW to play with Toews, they might be able to plant Hartman on RW (his more natural position) on that line, and leave Hossa with Kruger for the playoffs.

So let's say they paid some kind of minor King's ransom for Palat. Let's just say it included Scjmaltz and/or Forsling without giving up Kruger. Which, as far as this year's playoffs is preferable due to the various roles Kruger has to play.

Palat-Toews-Hartman
Panarin-Anisimov-Kane
Rasmussen-Kruger-Hossa
Latta-Kero-Panik
Hinostroza

I dunno, that's a pretty deep, functional and dangerous team.

What I hear is, ALL teams they are talking to are asking about Hartman and the Hawks unwillingness to include him in anything is a roadblock right now.

I would think to get a guy like Palat, who checks so many boxes,the Hawks are going to have to pony up in terms of at least one top forward prospect (either Schmaltz or Hartman).

While I have not heard this, i think they would really like to keep hartman because—and i am willing now to go out on this limb, if they got a top LW to play with Toews, they might be able to plant Hartman on RW (his more natural position) on that line, and leave Hossa with Kruger for the playoffs.

So let's say they paid some kind of minor King's ransom for Palat. Let's just say it included Scjmaltz and/or Forsling without giving up Kruger. Which, as far as this year's playoffs is preferable due to the various roles Kruger has to play.

Palat-Toews-Hartman
Panarin-Anisimov-Kane
Rasmussen-Kruger-Hossa
Latta-Kero-Panik
Hinostroza

I dunno, that's a pretty deep, functional and dangerous team.
- John Jaeckel

Any chance they'd take Hino & Motte over Schmaltz?

More I watch Hanzal play, less I want him.

No game whatsoever offensively. Paying a premium for a third-liner is a recipe for disaster. Would much rather bring in Boyle at a fraction of the price.

Palat could be a sneaky good add, but he's definitely not going to come cheap.

I think Detroit is our most viable trade partner. I understand the interest in Tatar and Vanek, but I'm very curious about that Greek kid Andreas Athanasiou. He's burned the 'Hawks repeatedly the past couple of times we've seen him. INCREDIBLE speed, highly skilled, has good size at 6'2", is only 22-years-old, and for whatever reason continues to be under-utilized in Detroit in a year where they have no chance of winning so his development is being hindered. Maybe he can be had in a packaged deal.

What I hear is, ALL teams they are talking to are asking about Hartman and the Hawks unwillingness to include him in anything is a roadblock right now.

I would think to get a guy like Palat, who checks so many boxes,the Hawks are going to have to pony up in terms of at least one top forward prospect (either Schmaltz or Hartman).

While I have not heard this, i think they would really like to keep hartman because—and i am willing now to go out on this limb, if they got a top LW to play with Toews, they might be able to plant Hartman on RW (his more natural position) on that line, and leave Hossa with Kruger for the playoffs.

So let's say they paid some kind of minor King's ransom for Palat. Let's just say it included Scjmaltz and/or Forsling without giving up Kruger. Which, as far as this year's playoffs is preferable due to the various roles Kruger has to play.

Palat-Toews-Hartman
Panarin-Anisimov-Kane
Rasmussen-Kruger-Hossa
Latta-Kero-Panik
Hinostroza

I dunno, that's a pretty deep, functional and dangerous team.
- John Jaeckel

Ah man... now I am concerned. That aside...
That lineup has three lines that can potentially be offensive possession (1, 2, and 3) forces.

Defense probably will look like:
Keith-Hjalmarsson
Kempny-Seabrook (pre deadline deal)
Campbell-TVR

Not a bad deal if we are looking at the lines you hypothesized and the defense here.

The Hawks definitely played the last couple games like they wanted to win and put more effort in offensively and defensively. Played with good speed and they got in lanes more and gummed up more plays in front of their net.

Also, much easier when your special teams start rolling. Hawks for the month of Feb so far.

5-0-0
PP 50% (3rd in NHL)
PK 86.7% ( 5th in NHL)

Good to see the D pickup their effort a bit.

What I hear is, ALL teams they are talking to are asking about Hartman and the Hawks unwillingness to include him in anything is a roadblock right now.

I would think to get a guy like Palat, who checks so many boxes,the Hawks are going to have to pony up in terms of at least one top forward prospect (either Schmaltz or Hartman).

While I have not heard this, i think they would really like to keep hartman because—and i am willing now to go out on this limb, if they got a top LW to play with Toews, they might be able to plant Hartman on RW (his more natural position) on that line, and leave Hossa with Kruger for the playoffs.

So let's say they paid some kind of minor King's ransom for Palat. Let's just say it included Scjmaltz and/or Forsling without giving up Kruger. Which, as far as this year's playoffs is preferable due to the various roles Kruger has to play.

Palat-Toews-Hartman
Panarin-Anisimov-Kane
Rasmussen-Kruger-Hossa
Latta-Kero-Panik
Hinostroza

I dunno, that's a pretty deep, functional and dangerous team.
- John Jaeckel

IMO a player like Palat is the ideal target-- a relative value contract and a solid 2 way player with speed and some jam-- I still and always think the Hawks need a bit more jam-- which is why I'd hate to lose Hartman-- BUT if it nets the Hawks Palat-- I would do it-- I see Palat much higher value than Hartman potential-- Love Duchene-- but just too much money and we lose a core player-- maybe Crawford?

On the 'jam' front-- I've been wondering about Latta-- from what I recall he is an energy type player-- anyone have any insight on Latta?

Additionally if the Hawks can't get Oduya somehow-- would like to see then add a d man with some body presence-- it seems like if the Hawks even hit a little bit the results are very good-- perhaps because the other teams aren't expecting this from the Hawks-- not sure-- but more physicality on the team will help in April - June--

What I hear is, ALL teams they are talking to are asking about Hartman and the Hawks unwillingness to include him in anything is a roadblock right now.

I would think to get a guy like Palat, who checks so many boxes,the Hawks are going to have to pony up in terms of at least one top forward prospect (either Schmaltz or Hartman).

While I have not heard this, i think they would really like to keep hartman because—and i am willing now to go out on this limb, if they got a top LW to play with Toews, they might be able to plant Hartman on RW (his more natural position) on that line, and leave Hossa with Kruger for the playoffs.

So let's say they paid some kind of minor King's ransom for Palat. Let's just say it included Scjmaltz and/or Forsling without giving up Kruger. Which, as far as this year's playoffs is preferable due to the various roles Kruger has to play.

Palat-Toews-Hartman
Panarin-Anisimov-Kane
Rasmussen-Kruger-Hossa
Latta-Kero-Panik
Hinostroza

I dunno, that's a pretty deep, functional and dangerous team.
- John Jaeckel

What is with the "Latta love" lately? Serious question - I've never seen him and don't know much about him. Hinostroza has played pretty well - why wouldn't you go with Hino-Kero-Panik?