Ryan Wilson: Murray stops Boston's flurry Murray stops Boston's flurry

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And people wonder why James Neal kneed that pile of shyt Marchand in the head.

Not to mention some really girly looking dives too.

I like that the chart indicates what makes for "DULL" and "FUN" hockey.

You take a 5-1 win any day, and it's great that Murray played really well. But man, 45 SOG against is not gonna be good enough most days.

I had the joy of having the Bruins feed and even the two biggest homer announcers in Brinkley and Edwards could tell that Krug lost an edge before Guentzal made contact.

I like that the chart indicates what makes for "DULL" and "FUN" hockey.

You take a 5-1 win any day, and it's great that Murray played really well. But man, 45 SOG against is not gonna be good enough most days.
- jmatchett383

Keep in mind that that 45 SOG total is pumped up by an absolute BOATLOAD of harmless shots. Yes, Boston had a few flurries but probably 2/3 of those shots were very low % shots from the outside. With those few flurries excluded, the Bruins reminded me of the Pens in the ECF against them a few years ago when they couldn't score because most of their shots were coming from the outside & generally harmless. But credit to Murray for making the saves on most of those flurries & that breakaway. Those kept the momentum in the Pens favor for most of the game.

Keep in mind that that 45 SOG total is pumped up by an absolute BOATLOAD of harmless shots. Yes, Boston had a few flurries but probably 2/3 of those shots were very low % shots from the outside. With those few flurries excluded, the Bruins reminded me of the Pens in the ECF against them a few years ago when they couldn't score because most of their shots were coming from the outside & generally harmless. But credit to Murray for making the saves on most of those flurries & that breakaway. Those kept the momentum in the Pens favor for most of the game.
- ScienceJesus

Still gotta make the saves. Also, aren't all shots for/against equal? I know they're all based on luck.

I like that the chart indicates what makes for "DULL" and "FUN" hockey.

You take a 5-1 win any day, and it's great that Murray played really well. But man, 45 SOG against is not gonna be good enough most days.
- jmatchett383

Considering BOS is the top CF% team and it was a poopty afternoon game it's no big deal.

Still gotta make the saves. Also, aren't all shots for/against equal? I know they're all based on luck.
- jmatchett383

Yes, 100% luck. Actually according to Tanner, the Capitals are the best team ever but that damn luck thing hasn't worked out for them.

Still gotta make the saves. Also, aren't all shots for/against equal? I know they're all based on luck.
- jmatchett383

I agree that you still gotta make the saves, but the vast majority of NHL starting goaltenders, if you let them square up & see the shot the whole way thru, will make the save, thereby making it a low % shot & generally harmless. I know the advanced stats guys only take this into account with some of their fancy stats & many others treat all shots as equal, but in reality, 2nd chance shots, shots close to the net, and screened shots are much more high % shot opportunities than the 40 footer that the goalie sees the whole way in.

It's why net front presence is so important & why the Pens in that ECF loss to the Bruins a few years ago looked so offensively inept. Because they couldn't/didn't get anyone within 10 feet of Rask for most of the series. It's also why the Pens look so awful when they try getting too fancy & subconsciously decide that there's style points for goals & stop trying to get a net front guy to bang in the dirty goals.

*edit*... my sarcasm detector is failing me today.

I agree that you still gotta make the saves, but the vast majority of NHL starting goaltenders, if you let them square up & see the shot the whole way thru, will make the save, thereby making it a low % shot & generally harmless. I know the advanced stats guys only take this into account with some of their fancy stats & many others treat all shots as equal, but in reality, 2nd chance shots, shots close to the net, and screened shots are much more high % shot opportunities than the 40 footer that the goalie sees the whole way in.

It's why net front presence is so important & why the Pens in that ECF loss to the Bruins a few years ago looked so offensively inept. Because they couldn't/didn't get anyone within 10 feet of Rask for most of the series. It's also why the Pens look so awful when they try getting too fancy & subconsciously decide that there's style points for goals & stop trying to get a net front guy to bang in the dirty goals.

*edit*... my sarcasm detector is failing me today.
- ScienceJesus

haha on the edit

Yes, a 40-footer from the boards is not the same as an uncontested shot from the slot with a screen in front. Just a little stab was all. Still, 45 SA is not good.

I agree that you still gotta make the saves, but the vast majority of NHL starting goaltenders, if you let them square up & see the shot the whole way thru, will make the save, thereby making it a low % shot & generally harmless. I know the advanced stats guys only take this into account with some of their fancy stats & many others treat all shots as equal, but in reality, 2nd chance shots, shots close to the net, and screened shots are much more high % shot opportunities than the 40 footer that the goalie sees the whole way in.

It's why net front presence is so important & why the Pens in that ECF loss to the Bruins a few years ago looked so offensively inept. Because they couldn't/didn't get anyone within 10 feet of Rask for most of the series. It's also why the Pens look so awful when they try getting too fancy & subconsciously decide that there's style points for goals & stop trying to get a net front guy to bang in the dirty goals.

*edit*... my sarcasm detector is failing me today.
- ScienceJesus

This is why analytics have High Danger Events and Scoring Chances per WarOnIce.com's old formula.

Murray should have been the number one star not Sheary, IMO.

This is why analytics have High Danger Events and Scoring Chances per WarOnIce.com's old formula.
- j.boyd919

Woah you mean analytics is more than just corsi? Like home plate shots, royal road passes, and more?

Yes McDavid leads Geno and 87 by 2 points, but let's not forget, Crosby has played 9 less games and Malkin 3 less games than McDavid. Crosby is dominating the NHL with a 1.35 points per game clip, where McDavid sits 4th at 1.14.

That's the real story.

Bruins may be the best possession team, but what I saw was a very slow over team. They probably have good possession numbers because when the get the puck it takes them forever to get it up ice. They are not in the same league as the Pens and there is no stat that will convince me otherwise.

Love my gf yelling at Chara -" he is a total (frank)ing Oaf"

Yes McDavid leads Geno and 87 by 2 points, but let's not forget, Crosby has played 9 less games and Malkin 3 less games than McDavid. Crosby is dominating the NHL with a 1.35 points per game clip, where McDavid sits 4th at 1.14.

That's the real story.
- bochangs

McDavid plays on a much worse team...

McDavid plays on a much worse team...
- Feds91Stammer

How much worse give me some stats! lol

McDavid plays on a much worse team...
- Feds91Stammer

Doesn't he have better linemates that a undrafted free agent and a 3rd round pick. I'm not sure on McDavid's linemates but are they lucic and eberle. Also Edmonton isn't an awful team this year; they are 7th on espn's power rankings and the Pens are 3rd. (though i consider the actual gap much larger).

As a side note in my opinion
Steelers : Patriots : Capitals : Penguins

How much worse give me some stats! lol
- powerhouse

Doesn't he have better linemates that a undrafted free agent and a 3rd round pick. I'm not sure on McDavid's linemates but are they lucic and eberle. Also Edmonton isn't an awful team this year; they are 7th on espn's power rankings and the Pens are 3rd. (though i consider the actual gap much larger).
- sditulli

Wow great analysis.

- Feds91Stammer

Interesting stat. When mcdavid is on the ice the oilers are better

@feds91stammer, since you only highlighted the stupid portion of his analysis, what about linemates. You just going to ignore that part?

@feds91stammer, since you only highlighted the stupid portion of his analysis, what about linemates. You just going to ignore that part?
- cornnation

Yep. McDavid doesn't play on a team that also includes Malkin/Crosby, Kessel, and Letang.