Jared Crozier: Senators get big win in St. Louis

Pros: Stone, Pyatt, Hoffman

Stone.. well what needs to be said? Easily my favourite player on the team and possibly in the league. No one does more with less.
Pyatt, after disappearing for a month, has come back and is buzzing around like crazy. What a pick up that was.
Hoff seems to be back to his shoot-first mentality. The chances were there in the last few games. You could see it coming. He's finally burying them.

Cons: Pageau, Ryan, Lazar, Brassard

Pageau is making bad decisions all over the ice right now. For a guy who's best asset seemed to be between the ears, he seems to be lacking some hockey sense.

Lazar can't even stickhandle anymore.. man how we messed this kid up.

Ryan, is well.. Ryan..

This team is going to need Ryan and Brassard to do something here soon. You can't have one good guy, one average guy and one anchor on each line and expect them to continue to produce.

Another thought: We need Andy back asap. Condon has done a valiant job and nothing but props to the guy, but the massive amount of games played is starting to catch up with him. He's been good for one or two soft goals almost every game since Christmas.

Pageau played a really strong game. Surprised by your comment.

Lazar is being knocked around too. It really is a shame that they didn't keep him in the minors.

Bobby Ryan won a foot race leading to Pageau's 1st period goal.

You read that right. Bobby Ryan won a foot race to the puck. And he didn't fall.

Pageau played a really strong game. Surprised by your comment.
- spatso

Pageau played a good first 10 mins.

He made some terrible decisions for the rest of the game - trying cross-ice passes through opposition players on multiple zone exits, and at least 2 completely unnecessary icings.

I am usually a Pageau defender, but he is outmatched right now. Pageau would be the perfect 4LC/1stPK center. I love his heart and effort level, but it seems like reality has kicked in for this kid this season.

Pageau played a good first 10 mins.

He made some terrible decisions for the rest of the game - trying cross-ice passes through opposition players on multiple zone exits, and at least 2 completely unnecessary icings.

I am usually a Pageau defender, but he is outmatched right now. Pageau would be the perfect 4LC/1stPK center. I love his heart and effort level, but it seems like reality has kicked in for this kid this season.
- Charliebox

JGP had a goal and an assist and ended up a +2.
He plays a shut-down role, and Ottawa didn't get scored on when he was on the ice, so he did his job

now..... the 4th line Ottawa couldn't exit their zone with the 4th line on the ice..... and they were on the ice for the last goal......


overall I thought the boys had a great game

Pros: Stone, Pyatt, Hoffman

Stone.. well what needs to be said? Easily my favourite player on the team and possibly in the league. No one does more with less.
Pyatt, after disappearing for a month, has come back and is buzzing around like crazy. What a pick up that was.
Hoff seems to be back to his shoot-first mentality. The chances were there in the last few games. You could see it coming. He's finally burying them.

Cons: Pageau, Ryan, Lazar, Brassard

Pageau is making bad decisions all over the ice right now. For a guy who's best asset seemed to be between the ears, he seems to be lacking some hockey sense.

Lazar can't even stickhandle anymore.. man how we messed this kid up.

Ryan, is well.. Ryan..

This team is going to need Ryan and Brassard to do something here soon. You can't have one good guy, one average guy and one anchor on each line and expect them to continue to produce.

Another thought: We need Andy back asap. Condon has done a valiant job and nothing but props to the guy, but the massive amount of games played is starting to catch up with him. He's been good for one or two soft goals almost every game since Christmas.
- Charliebox

Yes, Stone is undeniably our best forward and he does so much with little. I think Brassard has been playing better in his last stretch of 15 games or so. Pageau is Pageau, you get what you have. You measure his play not by his points, he's a very solid 3rd center and Boucher loves to use him because he is very good with penalty kills and he plays with energy. Don't know why you think he is a minus?

Also, I accpeted that maybe Lazar was rushed, but he also is a fabric of his own work ethic and his own doing. Not everything about his play is to blame on the organization. He needs to step up or he will be replaced.

On another note, sens will be insane good when White and Chabot make the team. To put things into perspective, they are better projected than how Lazar was projected when he was in the minors.

Yes, Stone is undeniably our best forward and he does so much with little. I think Brassard has been playing better in his last stretch of 15 games or so. Pageau is Pageau, you get what you have. You measure his play not by his points, he's a very solid 3rd center and Boucher loves to use him because he is very good with penalty kills and he plays with energy. Don't know why you think he is a minus?

Also, I accpeted that maybe Lazar was rushed, but he also is a fabric of his own work ethic and his own doing. Not everything about his play is to blame on the organization. He needs to step up or he will be replaced.

On another note, sens will be insane good when White and Chabot make the team. To put things into perspective, they are better projected than how Lazar was projected when he was in the minors.
- PtotheY

On Pageau. I am not ripping the guy. Like I said, he is all heart and soul and I love to have him on this team. I'm just saying, he's below average as a 3LC. That said, all of our bottom 6, minus Hoff, who really isn't, are below average. When he's at the top of his game, he's making the safe plays. I feel like he's trying to do too much, if that makes any sense.

As for White/Chabot, we can't predict that at all. Chabot certainly looks fantastic. If we manage this asset correctly, for once, and put him in the 5-6 role next year, he should turn out to be a stud.

White, on the other hand, I'm on the fence about. He seems like a good role player, but he's on the small side and doesn't have blinding speed. Usually, that's not the best combination to translate to a 'star' in the NHL. White looked great at the WJC, but he doesn't really have any weapons (ie size, rocket of a shot, speed, etc).

IMO best case, he's a great 2LC. Worst case 3/4LC. He'll certainly be an NHLer, but not so sure about how much of a game breaker he will be.

I'm not usually one to want to trade assets, but the time has to be now for this team. The longer we go without becoming a contender, the better odds EK leaves at the end of his contract, and I wouldn't blame him. White would be a fantastic starting point in a package to get a player that would make this team an actual contender instead just of contending for the playoffs.

Even if White exceeds all expectations, it won't be for at least a few years and by that point, it may be too late with EK.

Dzingel should have asked for a new pair of hands for Christmas. I'm not sure how many times in a game that he gets a breakaway and can't bury it. Damn that annoying!!!!

On Pageau. I am not ripping the guy. Like I said, he is all heart and soul and I love to have him on this team. I'm just saying, he's below average as a 3LC. That said, all of our bottom 6, minus Hoff, who really isn't, are below average. When he's at the top of his game, he's making the safe plays. I feel like he's trying to do too much, if that makes any sense.

As for White/Chabot, we can't predict that at all. Chabot certainly looks fantastic. If we manage this asset correctly, for once, and put him in the 5-6 role next year, he should turn out to be a stud.

White, on the other hand, I'm on the fence about. He seems like a good role player, but he's on the small side and doesn't have blinding speed. Usually, that's not the best combination to translate to a 'star' in the NHL. White looked great at the WJC, but he doesn't really have any weapons (ie size, rocket of a shot, speed, etc).

IMO best case, he's a great 2LC. Worst case 3/4LC. He'll certainly be an NHLer, but not so sure about how much of a game breaker he will be.

I'm not usually one to want to trade assets, but the time has to be now for this team. The longer we go without becoming a contender, the better odds EK leaves at the end of his contract, and I wouldn't blame him. White would be a fantastic starting point in a package to get a player that would make this team an actual contender instead just of contending for the playoffs.

Even if White exceeds all expectations, it won't be for at least a few years and by that point, it may be too late with EK.
- Charliebox

I respect your opinion, but I disagree on a few points. Pageau is a pretty solid 3LC if you compare his overall play with some across the leauge. Seems to fit well in that caliber. Karlsson won't leave the team. This discussion should have never even existed in the first place. He is a captain on a team that is on the rise, that is all motivation to stay here. In a league that is based on Cap spending, the mentality that all great players leave to be on all star teams is no longer a reality. Teams won't frontload their entire budget on 2 players. It's too risky in case one or both get injured. Great players like Ovechkin, arguably the best goal scorer of all time (besides Gretzky) didn't even win a cup yet. That kind of puts things into perspective for many players today playing the game. Also noticed sens cap is low, that's because the organization is saving money to re-sign him and keep him long term.

IMO Chabot should either play top 4 minutes in the NHL or play in the AHL to develop. He isn't the type of defender to play in 5 or 6 role. He needs to play top minutes against best opponents the other teams have to excelerate his development. White is very good player and I think he is underrated just because he isn't a flashy player. I wouldn't trade White, simply because he will be the natural replacement of either Turris or Brassard, which will be much closer to retirement when he is developed. Logan Brown is a projected number 1 centre.

You called the Blues a quality team.............LOLOLOLOLOLOL. Wet toilet paper is stronger than our defense right now.

Maybe playing Lazar with offensively capable players might help him out...
If I were Boucher I'd give Lazar a go on the third line with Pageau and Hoffman and drop Pyatt with Neil and Kelly.

1) Pageau/Stone/Ryan/Blues Post Game: Pageau had a really good game - from what I saw. Of course he's a 3rd line checking center, that hasn't been producing to his potential (15-20g; 40pt). Stone, even better. Hoffman has 2 solid goals although a empty net on a PP and then the perfect pass from Pageau (although what a shot). Both those guys - Stone + Hoffman - got to turn into stars (combine for 125-130pts+). Ryan too. But his desire to hit and play hard is very apparent, but his skating is behind no question. But hopefully he can pot goals.

2) Chabot/White: Don't know why we wrote about them above but their both blue chips. I'd rather trade Chabot, only because of the value, but I think if we can go after a Duchene, do White, Ceci++ for Duchene and Beauchemin.

3) Speaking of Duchene... look at what the Sens have done the past 3-4 years: Lost Bishop for nothing; lost Alfie for bothing; lost Spezza for nothing; lost fisher for nothing (puempel)..... Prince. Then you look what they did - trading Zibanejad for Brassard and replacing Cowen/Wiercioch with Phaneuf (big upgrade but much older and more $)... the team has to make good on a trade. They could of traded for Drouin last year - this year they HAVE to trade for Landeskog or Duchene. Dzingel, MacArthur not good enough to play with Turris. Ryan is just preventing Turris from being a 60 point player