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Jared Crozier
Ottawa Senators
Location: Gatineau, QC
Joined: 09.26.2014

Jan 11 @ 11:54 AM ET
Jared Crozier: What is the Senators biggest need for the now?
ShaneP22
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.27.2015

Jan 11 @ 11:57 AM ET
A new owner
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jan 11 @ 12:03 PM ET
"On defense, Erik Karlsson is what he is, and that isn't going to change."

Full column and this is the only positive statement that can be made on a team that has done okay so far this season. You guys are all in a depressive state wanting to wallow in your despair. You seem to enjoy your misery and you wonder why regular posters from past years just avoid the Sens blog now. Imagine the fun you will have if the Sens go on a serious losing skid.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 11 @ 12:04 PM ET
I think for sure it's a top six.

I think with Chabot and englund coming up and the top 4 being okay for now (I personally think ceci will get better, he's still young) there is no pressing need to address this area.

in goal, condon has been good, andy will be back, and the sens have 2-3 good prospects in goal. if nobody pans out, getting a goalie via trade, UFA, or even the waiver wire is easy as hell........no need to address that now

I think top six is the big one. dzingel had a hot start, has speed to burn and is talented but realistically I see him as an excellent 3rd liner (with pageau maybe) and a fill in on the top six. I think there's a good chance we lose smith at the deadline (hopefully) or in the offseason if his contract demands are too high so can't rely on him. ryan is what he is, seems to have regressed a lot......I still maintain that he's a good player but likely a decent 2nd liner at this point. macarthur is done in my opinion, I don't think we'll see him again.....and if we do he's been gone so long that I question how effective he'll be.

that leaves turris, stone, Hoffman, brassard........I think if you add one solid top six winger to that mix then you're in good shape.

I wonder if the avs would be interested in ceci, smith, and a 1st for duchense or landeskog
ahjnkn
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.16.2008

Jan 11 @ 12:16 PM ET
*Sarcasm detector turned on*

I think it's time we go all in and upgrade to the max. The only way we will ever get better is by trading our elite players for slightly more elite (on average) players. The time has come to begin a transition to the world of wild and freaky trade proposals no one will like, meaning they are actually fair value...with that in mind, I propose the following:

To OTT: Duchesne, Landeskog, Barrie, Beauchemin, COL 1st 2017
To COL: Karlsson, Ryan, Brassard, Wideman, OTT 2nd 2018 and 2019

A lateral move for both sides where COL significantly upgrades their D and reunites good buddies Karlsson and Weircioch, while OTT becomes the elite offsense of the Atlantic with a still decent powerplay QB, and restocks with assets for the future.

Ottawa wins the Stanley Cup in 2019, Colorado follows suit in 2021. With these lines, especially after Macarthur comes back, book it!

Dzingle-Turris-Stone
Hoffman-Duchesne-Landeskog
Macarthur-Smith-Pageau
Pyatt/Lazar-Kelly-Neil

Barrie-Methot
Phaneuf-Ceci
Beauchemin-Boro
Chabot

Anderson
Condon


*Sarcasm meter explodes*

david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jan 11 @ 12:16 PM ET
I think for sure it's a top six.

I think with Chabot and englund coming up and the top 4 being okay for now (I personally think ceci will get better, he's still young) there is no pressing need to address this area.

in goal, condon has been good, andy will be back, and the sens have 2-3 good prospects in goal. if nobody pans out, getting a goalie via trade, UFA, or even the waiver wire is easy as hell........no need to address that now

I think top six is the big one. dzingel had a hot start, has speed to burn and is talented but realistically I see him as an excellent 3rd liner (with pageau maybe) and a fill in on the top six. I think there's a good chance we lose smith at the deadline (hopefully) or in the offseason if his contract demands are too high so can't rely on him. ryan is what he is, seems to have regressed a lot......I still maintain that he's a good player but likely a decent 2nd liner at this point. macarthur is done in my opinion, I don't think we'll see him again.....and if we do he's been gone so long that I question how effective he'll be.

that leaves turris, stone, Hoffman, brassard........I think if you add one solid top six winger to that mix then you're in good shape.

I wonder if the avs would be interested in ceci, smith, and a 1st for duchense or landeskog

- sensarmy_11



I think any trade for those two would require one the sens better prospects going back the other way.

I agree that goaltending would be last on the list. Condon has been OK like you said.

On the top 6, what's the status on Macarthur? I heard he was supposeed to be back in the new year at some point.

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 11 @ 12:23 PM ET
Do you think Ottawa would be better situated with Zibanejad still on the roster? Assuming he isn't injured like now?


I suggested on the Flyers blog that it might be time to move Giroux because I think the Flyers are still some time from being a playoff contender and I liked what the Rangers did in getting Zibanejad has a help for the now and future.

I feel the flyers could look for a young player that could be about to break out.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 11 @ 12:25 PM ET
*Sarcasm detector turned on*

I think it's time we go all in and upgrade to the max. The only way we will ever get better is by trading our elite players for slightly more elite (on average) players. The time has come to begin a transition to the world of wild and freaky trade proposals no one will like, meaning they are actually fair value...with that in mind, I propose the following:

To OTT: Duchesne, Landeskog, Barrie, Beauchemin, COL 1st 2017
To COL: Karlsson, Ryan, Brassard, Wideman, OTT 2nd 2018 and 2019

A lateral move for both sides where COL significantly upgrades their D and reunites good buddies Karlsson and Weircioch, while OTT becomes the elite offsense of the Atlantic with a still decent powerplay QB, and restocks with assets for the future.

Ottawa wins the Stanley Cup in 2019, Colorado follows suit in 2021. With these lines, especially after Macarthur comes back, book it!

Dzingle-Turris-Stone
Hoffman-Duchesne-Landeskog
Macarthur-Smith-Pageau
Pyatt/Lazar-Kelly-Neil

Barrie-Methot
Phaneuf-Ceci
Beauchemin-Boro
Chabot

Anderson
Condon


*Sarcasm meter explodes*


- ahjnkn


ugh......this is special...Avs Core and a top 4 pick for Karlsson, a bad contract, and level of players that you can add during ever UFA. Awesome
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jan 11 @ 12:32 PM ET
Do you think Ottawa would be better situated with Zibanejad still on the roster? Assuming he isn't injured like now?


I suggested on the Flyers blog that it might be time to move Giroux because I think the Flyers are still some time from being a playoff contender and I liked what the Rangers did in getting Zibanejad has a help for the now and future.

I feel the flyers could look for a young player that could be about to break out.

- J35Bacher


Hard to say. He sure looked good when he was with rangers prior to injury.

The feelings about him as a player were rather mixed to be honest. Some people liked him, others didnt. He was always a streaky player. One stretch of games he was putting up lots of points, the next he would disappear.

But he always started slow, at least in Ottawa. Didn't happen in NY, if that was just more of him being streaky, or him finally finding his groove, remains to be seen.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jan 11 @ 12:33 PM ET
ugh......this is special...Avs Core and a top 4 pick for Karlsson, a bad contract, and level of players that you can add during ever UFA. Awesome
- DDM-Coga


I think he was being sarcastic.

Making fun of the trade proposals that are on this site constantly.
SensnRBs
Ottawa Senators
Location: it ain't cheatin' if ur wife is watching, ON
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 11 @ 12:35 PM ET
On defense, Erik Karlsson is what he is, and that isn't going to change."

Full column and this is the only positive statement that can be made on a team that has done okay so far this season. You guys are all in a depressive state wanting to wallow in your despair. You seem to enjoy your misery and you wonder why regular posters from past years just avoid the Sens blog now. Imagine the fun you will have if the Sens go on a serious losing skid.


hey man, that easy for you to say, when we all know you are in FLA, where everything is all unicorns, rainbows and the fountain of youth.....


we're stuck here where it cant decide if its going to snow a foot, or rain for two days straight..... if you think its bad now, wait until the February blahs start
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 11 @ 12:37 PM ET
Hard to say. He sure looked good when he was with rangers prior to injury.

The feelings about him as a player were rather mixed to be honest. Some people liked him, others didnt. He was always a streaky player. One stretch of games he was putting up lots of points, the next he would disappear.

But he always started slow, at least in Ottawa. Didn't happen in NY, if that was just more of him being streaky, or him finally finding his groove, remains to be seen.

- david22



I was surprised by the trade. I thought he was hitting his stride and going to break out. I thought Rangers got a good deal also picking up a 2nd in the deal.

david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jan 11 @ 12:39 PM ET
I was surprised by the trade. I thought he was hitting his stride and going to break out. I thought Rangers got a good deal also picking up a 2nd in the deal.
- J35Bacher


He seemed to be improving each year.

There was speculation that the Sens gave a second because the trade was made after his bonus was payed out, so the sens wouldn't have to pay it.
ahjnkn
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.16.2008

Jan 11 @ 12:46 PM ET
ugh......this is special...Avs Core and a top 4 pick for Karlsson, a bad contract, and level of players that you can add during ever UFA. Awesome
- DDM-Coga


Don't play games here, your entire core is worth Karlsson by himself, we're only adding the remaining players for cap considerations...
GAWWWWH!

*Sarcasm detector goes nuclear*
ahjnkn
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.16.2008

Jan 11 @ 12:48 PM ET
I think he was being sarcastic.

Making fun of the trade proposals that are on this site constantly.

- david22


NOOOOOO!

*Sarcasm meter goes supernova*
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 11 @ 12:55 PM ET
hey man, that easy for you to say, when we all know you are in FLA, where everything is all unicorns, rainbows and the fountain of youth.....


we're stuck here where it cant decide if its going to snow a foot, or rain for two days straight..... if you think its bad now, wait until the February blahs start

- SensnRBs


truth
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jan 11 @ 1:01 PM ET
A new owner
- ShaneP22

grim
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.23.2006

Jan 11 @ 1:03 PM ET
What do the Sens need right now?

I'd say 2 things:
1) Team harmony - no more Boucher/Ryan punch ups
2) Hope they continue to get to play opponent's backups on the 2nd of back-to-back games with the same regularity they have thus far...
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 11 @ 1:40 PM ET
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jan 11 @ 1:47 PM ET
I think he was being sarcastic.

Making fun of the trade proposals that are on this site constantly.

- david22


i dunno... i mean the proposal was ridiculous but not so ridiculous that you would think it's satire... it's a tough call.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 11 @ 2:09 PM ET
i dunno... i mean the proposal was ridiculous but not so ridiculous that you would think it's satire... it's a tough call.
- DoubleDown


Especially with alfiessalad making simliar trades around these parts, no satire wtih that guy
ahjnkn
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.16.2008

Jan 11 @ 2:13 PM ET
i dunno... i mean the proposal was ridiculous but not so ridiculous that you would think it's satire... it's a tough call.
- DoubleDown


That's the best kind of satire though, isn't it?

DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

Jan 11 @ 2:23 PM ET
Just keep the team intact, expose Ryan (or trade to a cap floor team) and find two 3rd/2nd line players on free agency. We will surely overpay again when we make a trade.

Hoffman/Stone/Turris/Brassard (miss Zibanejad :yuck/Smith + 2 free agents should be fine.

Ceci will turn it around and with Methot, Karlsson, Phaneuf and Chabot we should be good there as well.

Goaltending ain't an issue.
DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

Jan 11 @ 2:28 PM ET
Do you think Ottawa would be better situated with Zibanejad still on the roster? Assuming he isn't injured like now?


I suggested on the Flyers blog that it might be time to move Giroux because I think the Flyers are still some time from being a playoff contender and I liked what the Rangers did in getting Zibanejad has a help for the now and future.

I feel the flyers could look for a young player that could be about to break out.

- J35Bacher


Giroux/Voracek/Schenn/Simmonds/Couturier as 5 of your top 6 guys. And that talented defense.... Sign Bishop and in 2 years you will have a shot.
Ottawa Fan
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:28 PM ET
Do you think Ottawa would be better situated with Zibanejad still on the roster? Assuming he isn't injured like now?


I suggested on the Flyers blog that it might be time to move Giroux because I think the Flyers are still some time from being a playoff contender and I liked what the Rangers did in getting Zibanejad has a help for the now and future.

I feel the flyers could look for a young player that could be about to break out.

- J35Bacher


I would have liked to have kept him, but the owner is cheap and zibanejad is going to sign for $5 mill which is too much for them

I think they could have gotten brassard with it dealing zibanejad.

Giroux would be a good player to move. Want Bobby Ryan for him (kidding)
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