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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Dec 8 @ 2:34 PM ET
Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks get Alex Biega into lineup vs. Lightning, recall Pedan Alex Biega will make his season debut on the Vancouver defense, replacing the injured Philip Larsen, as the Canucks continue their road trip on Thursday against the Tampa Bay Lightning.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 8 @ 2:51 PM ET
Why yes, yes he will.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Dec 8 @ 3:00 PM ET
Thanks Carol!

I thought Pedan is exempt from Waivers until he has played 10 games or been on the NHL roster for 30 days? Or is that only the case for emergency recall?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 8 @ 3:02 PM ET
Thanks Carol!

I thought Pedan is exempt from Waivers until he has played 10 games or been on the NHL roster for 30 days? Or is that only the case for emergency recall?

- WhiteLie


It should classify under emergency recall.. I believe..
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 8 @ 3:08 PM ET
Thanks Carol!

I thought Pedan is exempt from Waivers until he has played 10 games or been on the NHL roster for 30 days? Or is that only the case for emergency recall?

- WhiteLie


That was my understanding as well.

From capfriendly
https://www.capfriendly.com/waivers-faq

A player does not need to pass through waivers if the player has not been on the NHL active roster for a cumulative 30 days since last clearing waivers, and has not played in 10 or more NHL games. CBA Reference 13.2(b)
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 8 @ 3:17 PM ET
While I wasn't for the longest time, I am now on board with trading Tanev IF we can get a large return. Chronic injuries and the kinds that keep you out longer than estimates and re-estimates say you should be out are something to avoid in a player. We should maximize the return on him in case these problems persist for years.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Dec 8 @ 3:18 PM ET
Leafs trolls already thanks Carol
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Dec 8 @ 3:21 PM ET
That was my understanding as well.

From capfriendly
https://www.capfriendly.com/waivers-faq

- belcherbd


Thanks for the link. I was thinking that was only for emergency recalls, but it looks like you're right. In that case, Pedan is safe for 10 games or 30 days, but Chaput and Megna will need to clear if/when they are sent back down, right?

I'll go change the main blog. Much appreciated!
Nelson19777
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Trail, BC
Joined: 03.05.2013

Dec 8 @ 3:21 PM ET
He has played 13 NHL games.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 8 @ 3:22 PM ET
While I wasn't for the longest time, I am now on board with trading Tanev IF we can get a large return. Chronic injuries and the kinds that keep you out longer than estimates and re-estimates say you should be out are something to avoid in a player. We should maximize the return on him in case these problems persist for years.
- NorthNuck

Tanev and Edler should be placed in a glass case that reads:

'break in the event of games vs the bottom 10 eastern teams'.

Either one will never see a full season again and I'm starting to wonder on Hansen too seems a bit fragile.

It is what it is.

5-2 Bolts tonight and now that Garrison and Drouin are back each should log a goal as we are doormat for returning players.

Thx again Carol you are a ray of sunshine in another bottom 5 year.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Dec 8 @ 3:23 PM ET
While I wasn't for the longest time, I am now on board with trading Tanev IF we can get a large return. Chronic injuries and the kinds that keep you out longer than estimates and re-estimates say you should be out are something to avoid in a player. We should maximize the return on him in case these problems persist for years.
- NorthNuck


Same. Although not because of injuries, more out of positional need.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Dec 8 @ 3:27 PM ET
He has played 13 NHL games.
- Nelson19777


Pretty sure they mean 10 games during a particular recall, not 10 career games.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 8 @ 3:28 PM ET
While I wasn't for the longest time, I am now on board with trading Tanev IF we can get a large return. Chronic injuries and the kinds that keep you out longer than estimates and re-estimates say you should be out are something to avoid in a player. We should maximize the return on him in case these problems persist for years.
- NorthNuck


Injuries happen to all sorts of players for all sorts or reasons. Getting rid of a player because he has had a few injuries is a bad idea. If they have a specific nagging injury perhaps but this is an ankle sprain, one of the most common injuries in hockey and I don't see how you can call it chronic.

As far as him being out longer than expected, poop happens, that life and is certainly not a reason to move on from a player.

By all means move Tanev for the right return but I don't see how his recent injury should be seen as the reason to do so.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 8 @ 3:29 PM ET
Leafs trolls already thanks Carol
- CanuckDon


he's not a bad fellow.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 8 @ 3:29 PM ET
Thanks for the link. I was thinking that was only for emergency recalls, but it looks like you're right. In that case, Pedan is safe for 10 games or 30 days, but Chaput and Megna will need to clear if/when they are sent back down, right?

I'll go change the main blog. Much appreciated!

- Carol Schram


Whitelie deserves any "credit " for making you do extra work
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 8 @ 3:32 PM ET
Botchford and his wild speculation. What a strunz.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/...ets/ar-AAljqYW?li=AAggNb9
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 8 @ 3:32 PM ET
well. Weather Canada has predicted 10-20 cms of Snow for Vancouver Island. The city has gone into a complete panic and will probably shut down after 3cm. It will most likely turn to slush with all of the rain by sunrise.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 8 @ 3:33 PM ET
Injuries happen to all sorts of players for all sorts or reasons. Getting rid of a player because he has had a few injuries is a bad idea. If they have a specific nagging injury perhaps but this is an ankle sprain, one of the most common injuries in hockey and I don't see how you can call it chronic.

As far as him being out longer than expected, poop happens, that life and is certainly not a reason to move on from a player.

By all means move Tanev for the right return but I don't see how his recent injury should be seen as the reason to do so.

- belcherbd

I'm saying for me the fact that he appears to be fragile is what helps me come around to the idea of trading him.

I'm a big fan of Tanev, he's a good age, good value, etc. But if he's missing a lot of games every year then we can't be relying on him in our top pairing. If we had 2 Dmen capable of playing above him I would probably want to keep him but as I see it we need more young players and picks, and he can bring in more than anyone else on the roster.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 8 @ 3:33 PM ET
well. Weather Canada has predicted 10-20 cms of Snow for Vancouver Island. The city has gone into a complete panic and will probably shut down after 3cm. It will most likely turn to slush with all of the rain by sunrise.
- Codes1087

Glad I'm not on the island right now. Hope there's no flight delays, my gf is in Nanaimo and supposed to fly home next week.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 8 @ 3:34 PM ET
Injuries happen to all sorts of players for all sorts or reasons. Getting rid of a player because he has had a few injuries is a bad idea. If they have a specific nagging injury perhaps but this is an ankle sprain, one of the most common injuries in hockey and I don't see how you can call it chronic.

As far as him being out longer than expected, poop happens, that life and is certainly not a reason to move on from a player.

By all means move Tanev for the right return but I don't see how his recent injury should be seen as the reason to do so.

- belcherbd


With the idea of having Tanev available, I wonder what other teams think of him or if they counter with interest in another dman?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 8 @ 3:37 PM ET
With the idea of having Tanev available, I wonder what other teams think of him or if they counter with interest in another dman?
- hillbillydeluxe

As far as I've read, people around the league are aware of his skill set and I've seen fans of a couple other teams talking about wanting to trade for him
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 8 @ 3:39 PM ET
Glad I'm not on the island right now. Hope there's no flight delays, my gf is in Nanaimo and supposed to fly home next week.
- NorthNuck


It is comical how bad people react to snow on the island. The problem is that half the people don't actually prepare properly with snow tires. I am sure we won't get half as much as what they are predicating anyway, it hasn't snowed a good snow on the island in years
Bowel-Auger
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2016

Dec 8 @ 3:39 PM ET
he's not a bed fellow.

- VanHockeyGuy


Fixed
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 8 @ 3:40 PM ET
It is comical how bad people react to snow on the island. The problem is that half the people don't actually prepare properly with snow tires. I am sure we won't get half as much as what they are predicating anyway, it hasn't snowed a good snow on the island in years
- Codes1087

Yeah, she was telling me driving around last couple weeks has been treacherous not because of the weather, but because of all the people horribly prepared with terrible tires and no winter driving skills
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 8 @ 3:41 PM ET
As far as I've read, people around the league are aware of his skill set and I've seen fans of a couple other teams talking about wanting to trade for him
- NorthNuck


sh1t, didn't mean to flag you.

anyway, I think Tanev would be attractive with his contract setup too.

I just wonder if some gm's would want a smaller deal (contract $) and ask for Tryamkin, Hutton or Stecher? Makes me wonder what some offers would look like.
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