Jason Millen: Blues vs Lightning 12/1/16 gameday thread and 9 nhl nuggets Blues vs Lightning 12/1/16 gameday thread and 9 nhl nuggets

How about another win tonight.

Let's Go Blues

Nice start to the game.

Nice start to the game.


- carcus

Nice start for sure!

"4) The Coyotes are giving up a league highest 34.4 shots per game and are worst in SAT% (regular and close), and USAT% (regular and close). Obviously Chayka hasn’t had time to fully retool the roster but I found it ironic that a team run by an analytics guy was last in those categories."

That is becausethe coach does not play along. It's like in Moneyball when Bean has to trade a player to force the manager to play the player he wants.

Personally I think Arizona made a great move but was weary of being a laughing stock. Tipett had been a great coach but he seems to be stuck in clutch and grab era tactics looking for 2-1 games with a roster that will not produce good results.

Within two years that team will be good.

Jason Millen: Blues vs Lightning 12/1/16 gameday thread and 9 nhl nuggets
Blues vs Lightning 12/1/16 gameday thread and 9 nhl nuggets
- Jason Millen

Trends

Shattenkirks all around game and effort have increased dramatically which brings up an upcoming decision.

Bortuzzo is rising to dominance.

Perron's play has been great.

When the power play moves they score imagine that. Steen comes on and they move around and Perron is being a great screen which is almost a waste with his shot.

Negative

JayBo's coverage is killing this team. Add in a bad game for Allen and a game that shouldn't have been close ends close. Which adds to the can you move JayBo because Gunnarsson's play has been solid. He was on the ice in the last minute an not JayBo which is telling. Bortuzzo's play and add in Lindbohm plus a big cap hit and I think you have to push JayBo out. He looked great to start the campaign but this trend emerged a few years ago. Sometimes you see him like the other night making great olays but still dropping back to far and giving a bonus of time and space. So it is concerning. What is the end result of the trend?

Allen. He has games where he drifts off his angles and is caught deep in his net. A number of the goals Tampa scored probably do not happen if he comes out to challenge.

Petro and JayBo together. Net front coverage. Twice Petro played back instead of forward on okays in the slot that ended in goals which further complicated bad plays and coverage by JayBo.

Blues dominating early and getting a third and now it is a fourth goal. They immediately play with a more lackadasical attitude and turn down the effort. They start making cute plays.


Jaden Schwartz on two on ones. Look dude you drift away from the play and start coasting with the puck and guess what? Everyone knows you are thinking only pass.

You want to make a pretty play? Think only of scoring. Go to the net looking to score and the dman will commit and give you the pass. Go to the play and not away from it and you will create havoc if not the intended desire.

Then Perron does the same.

I am always worried about players that are not hungry for goals. Setting up goals to me is better than scoring them, but you create the openings when you try to score.

Too many times after the Blues went up they started trying to thread the needle through three players laterally. If the players cannot recogonize the presented defensive formation they will never be great. Which goes to puck support. It started out great and then disappears which is all from lackadasical play.

It's one thing to go up by three against a bad team and take it easy and another to do so against a good team who can score.

saw a virginia plate leaving the garage that read FRT SNFR

saw a virginia plate leaving the garage that read FRT SNFR
- BluesDroogie

Did you see that bit on Comedy Central with a gas mask hooked to a tube in an ass farting and the guy with the mask getting off on it?

"Perron is also keeping up, and in most cases, surpassing his high-dollar free agent Class of 2016 comrades. Only Lucic, with seven goals and 10 assists, has more points. None of them has more goals. Perron’s Corsi number of 39 puts him up with Jason Demers of Florida (50), Lucic (49) and Loui Eriksson of Vancouver (47) and ahead of the rest."

What? You mean signing older guys to huge deals makes little sense then signing a guy in his prime for pennies on the dollar because of the awful stats every Penguins player had to start the season?

Lucic is by all accounts doing terrible anyway. I mean he has that point total often okaying on McDavid's wing. With McDavid you need to just get open or pass him the puck to get a point.

The big thing that was being considered at the time was Brouwer. His underlying numbers have been slipping. Keep in mind the majority of his points came last year with a hot start. He had another hot start this year. But I am not seeing him on NHL Network as often anymore.


The play of Petro with JayBo and the depth at defense has me wondering if you could get a top center, especially a super talented young one for Petro do you do it?

There is still little reason for Yakupov not being on the ice. Yet here we are with a damn good team even with him off the ice.

This team has incredible depth. I would say it is lacking at goaltending but Copely is ready to be a back up who challenges the starter. Hutton really is here to push Allen into the role and to protect young goalies from the expansion.

Remember I love Petro and his ability. But something has to give here. Cap projections relative cost to on ice product has to be considered.

Broadziak was killing the fourth line tonight. Why Hitch kept going with them against Tampa's top line at times was worrisome.

But if you remove Petro you are saying Parayko is ready to absorb that role. That's a lot on his early development. Right now he does not have pressure and gets to gain confidence while dominating lesser opponents. With Shatty's first half point totals once again at almost a point per game what do you do? Probably nothing at the moment.

"Perron is also keeping up, and in most cases, surpassing his high-dollar free agent Class of 2016 comrades. Only Lucic, with seven goals and 10 assists, has more points. None of them has more goals. Perron’s Corsi number of 39 puts him up with Jason Demers of Florida (50), Lucic (49) and Loui Eriksson of Vancouver (47) and ahead of the rest."

What? You mean signing older guys to huge deals makes little sense then signing a guy in his prime for pennies on the dollar because of the awful stats every Penguins player had to start the season?

Lucic is by all accounts doing terrible anyway. I mean he has that point total often okaying on McDavid's wing. With McDavid you need to just get open or pass him the puck to get a point.

The big thing that was being considered at the time was Brouwer. His underlying numbers have been slipping. Keep in mind the majority of his points came last year with a hot start. He had another hot start this year. But I am not seeing him on NHL Network as often anymore.


The play of Petro with JayBo and the depth at defense has me wondering if you could get a top center, especially a super talented young one for Petro do you do it?

There is still little reason for Yakupov not being on the ice. Yet here we are with a damn good team even with him off the ice.

This team has incredible depth. I would say it is lacking at goaltending but Copely is ready to be a back up who challenges the starter. Hutton really is here to push Allen into the role and to protect young goalies from the expansion.

Remember I love Petro and his ability. But something has to give here. Cap projections relative cost to on ice product has to be considered.

Broadziak was killing the fourth line tonight. Why Hitch kept going with them against Tampa's top line at times was worrisome.

But if you remove Petro you are saying Parayko is ready to absorb that role. That's a lot on his early development. Right now he does not have pressure and gets to gain confidence while dominating lesser opponents. With Shatty's first half point totals once again at almost a point per game what do you do? Probably nothing at the moment.
- BluemanGuruu

I thought it was Tampa's defense that looked soft all night. Schwartz and Perron alone had three odd man rushes. Perron was camped out in front of their crease completely untouched on every power play.

The only way you can trade Petro is if you have a guy step up and displace him. Parakyo could very well do it but it will likely take a couple of years at least. Same thing with J bo. Gunnarson and Edmundson are not in position to take on that role. I've been unimpressed with Lindbohm this year as well. We're already going to lose Shatty and possibly another D man at the x draft.

At the quarter mark of the season, the weakness that stands out to me is goaltending. Allen hasn't been terrible but his numbers are pretty pedestrian and I'd say more often than not he has not looked very sharp.

I thought it was Tampa's defense that looked soft all night. Schwartz and Perron alone had three odd man rushes. Perron was camped out in front of their crease completely untouched on every power play.

The only way you can trade Petro is if you have a guy step up and displace him. Parakyo could very well do it but it will likely take a couple of years at least. Same thing with J bo. Gunnarson and Edmundson are not in position to take on that role. I've been unimpressed with Lindbohm this year as well. We're already going to lose Shatty and possibly another D man at the x draft.

At the quarter mark of the season, the weakness that stands out to me is goaltending. Allen hasn't been terrible but his numbers are pretty pedestrian and I'd say more often than not he has not looked very sharp.
- fattyboubatty

Could it be Allen is just adjusting to being the #1 Goalie finally. Taking some bumps in the road to find his A game. Hopefully, so far though he has looked pretty average and sometimes weak. His rebound control last night was poor.

Hope fully he can learn from these games early on and finish strong when we need him the most. Hopefully it is just a learning curve.

Did you see that bit on Comedy Central with a gas mask hooked to a tube in an ass farting and the guy with the mask getting off on it?
- BluemanGuruu

Thankfully i did NOT see that one

Could it be Allen is just adjusting to being the #1 Goalie finally. Taking some bumps in the road to find his A game. Hopefully, so far though he has looked pretty average and sometimes weak. His rebound control last night was poor.

Hope fully he can learn from these games early on and finish strong when we need him the most. Hopefully it is just a learning curve.
- BluesDroogie

I think by and large this is who he is. Allen's going to be a good but not elite goaltender. In this system this is really all you need.

I expect him to grow and mature into the roll as the season moves on, but we've seen enough from him now to know he is what he is.

I think by and large this is who he is. Allen's going to be a good but not elite goaltender. In this system this is really all you need.

I expect him to grow and mature into the roll as the season moves on, but we've seen enough from him now to know he is what he is.
- bcallaway

I think he still has a little room to improve but I'm starting to think the same thing. If he can maintain a .915 save % we'll be alright.

I thought it was Tampa's defense that looked soft all night. Schwartz and Perron alone had three odd man rushes. Perron was camped out in front of their crease completely untouched on every power play.

The only way you can trade Petro is if you have a guy step up and displace him. Parakyo could very well do it but it will likely take a couple of years at least. Same thing with J bo. Gunnarson and Edmundson are not in position to take on that role. I've been unimpressed with Lindbohm this year as well. We're already going to lose Shatty and possibly another D man at the x draft.

At the quarter mark of the season, the weakness that stands out to me is goaltending. Allen hasn't been terrible but his numbers are pretty pedestrian and I'd say more often than not he has not looked very sharp.
- fattyboubatty

That is what I think about Petro. I liked Lindbohm's play a lot. And as I said I also think Parayko could be that guy but you steepen his learning curve if you throw him in there too soon.


JayBo looks good against highly skilled fast players. But against skilled guys not coming in the zone like a rocket he gives too much space and time too often.

Might be just a phase but it seems more like a pattern.

I think Allen can be a lot better. As for his svpct I discount it because he does not always get a ton of shots but does get a lot of high quality chances. only the truly elite do well on those. I think a lot is him developing in his new role. I hope.

I thought Tampa's d was weak for the most part yes. But a number of goals were due to poor positioning and decision making.

Nice start to the game.


- carcus

Get your Tix?

Sy,

I think it was you that was asking about Classic Sweaters. They had a lot more players available at the game last night at the True Blue Store. I'm also betting they were doing custom stuff but I didn't have time to ask.

Get your Tix?
- Jason Millen

Yes!