James Tanner: Take That, Hockey World - or - The Florida Panthers are Awesome! Alternate titles are very fancy, just like stats, apparently.

Panthers = best hockey in the world. We're winning the Stanley cup 4x in a row baby! Maybe we'll get some fans then

Cease and Desist. Any Takes blog is infringing on my Hot Takes intellectual property rights.

Don't be so quick to praise them! They haven't proven this is a winning formula as of yet. Good on them for thinking outside the box though.

James Tanner: Take That, Hockey World - or - The Florida Panthers are Awesome!
Alternate titles are very fancy, just like stats, apparently.
- James_Tanner

Wow did you watch moneyball before writing this .......

John Henry: For forty-one million, you built a playoff team. You lost Damon, Giambi, Isringhausen, Pena and you won more games without them than you did with them. You won the exact same number of games that the Yankees won, but the Yankees spent one point four million per win and you paid two hundred and sixty thousand. I know you've taken it in the teeth out there, but the first guy through the wall. It always gets bloody, always. It's the threat of not just the way of doing business, but in their minds it's threatening the game. But really what it's threatening is their livelihoods, it's threatening their jobs, it's threatening the way that they do things. And every time that happens, whether it's the government or a way of doing business or whatever it is, the people are holding the reins, have their hands on the switch. They go bat poop crazy. I mean, anybody who's not building a team right and rebuilding it using your model, they're dinosaurs. They'll be sitting on their ass on the sofa in October, watching the Boston Red Sox win the World Series.

Somehow I heard Matt Martin is to blame for this mess

gormley and rundblad also should be in the nhl.

My advanced coaching stats clearly point to Gallant being a good coach.

Panthers are back to being a joke.

Hitting is important, btw, it's a tactic used to separate the puck from the man so your team can possess it. It's not a form of showmanship? It's also illegal to hit someone when they don't possess the puck.

So the GM was recently given a 3 year window to win the cup? Good luck finding a guy who wants that coaching job.

Aside, good song by The Weakerthans

Hitting is important, btw, it's a tactic used to separate the puck from the man so your team can possess it. It's not a form of showmanship? It's also illegal to hit someone when they don't possess the puck.
- LeftCoaster

Hitting is not important.

Firing a good coach who took the team to the playoffs last year and replacing him with a 60 year old rookie nhl coach is not a good move. It screams desperation from a team that should be focused on the progress and not the immediate results. Feels like a very anti-stat based decision

Hitting is not important.
- Feds91Stammer

Hitting stats are so poorly kept they can't be used to conclude anything.


Hitting a guy after the puck is gone generally seems pointless to me.


Seperating the puck from the player with a hit seems useful. Would be interesting to see an analysis done on this basis.

Hitting stats are so poorly kept they can't be used to conclude anything.


Hitting a guy after the puck is gone generally seems pointless to me.


Seperating the puck from the player with a hit seems useful. Would be interesting to see an analysis done on this basis.
- Tumbleweed

Hitting is as close a measure of "causing a turnover" as shooting is a measure of "goals."

James Tanner: Take That, Hockey World - or - The Florida Panthers are Awesome!
Alternate titles are very fancy, just like stats, apparently.
- James_Tanner

Why even play games?

Just PS4 simulate everything and be done with it.

Your sycophantic adoration for stats is as blind as any the GMs you claim refuse to utilize stats and go by "look and feel".

Hockey statistics are directional, specifically because the input variables are based on inconsistent applications (the tracker of the data points, like referees, sees things differently from game to game). Furthermore, unlike baseball, where most events are unique and distinct (a pitch, a ball, a strike, a hit, a double play... etc...), in hockey events are interrelated in a more complex ecosystem given the constant flow and movement of the game.

Anyone who solely uses stats to make their point is as blind as anyone who solely uses the "look and feel" approach, as well.

Until you do both, you are just a hack presenting part of the picture.

Hitting is not important.
- Feds91Stammer

You are right. The allstar games are spectacular.

Hitting is not important.
- Feds91Stammer

Wrong....the stat isn't important, but the act of hitting is.

Thank God for James Tanner..love reading your blogs

Why even play games?

Just PS4 simulate everything and be done with it.

Your sycophantic adoration for stats is as blind as any the GMs you claim refuse to utilize stats and go by "look and feel".

Hockey statistics are directional, specifically because the input variables are based on inconsistent applications (the tracker of the data points, like referees, sees things differently from game to game). Furthermore, unlike baseball, where most events are unique and distinct (a pitch, a ball, a strike, a hit, a double play... etc...), in hockey events are interrelated in a more complex ecosystem given the constant flow and movement of the game.

Anyone who solely uses stats to make their point is as blind as anyone who solely uses the "look and feel" approach, as well.

Until you do both, you are just a hack presenting part of the picture.
- Mashadar

No one wants this


http://www.thehockeynews....ions-in-nhl-17-simulation

Maybe just a case of the lunatics running the asylum. You are quite comical. Never one to dissapoint with your biased views. Oh with no experience on the subject to boot. Sad

No one wants this


http://www.thehockeynews....ions-in-nhl-17-simulation
- DDM-Coga

Hitting stats are so poorly kept they can't be used to conclude anything.


Hitting a guy after the puck is gone generally seems pointless to me.


Seperating the puck from the player with a hit seems useful. Would be interesting to see an analysis done on this basis.
- Tumbleweed

All I know is I remember seeing a guy that was doing a project tracking this and only 16% of Abdelkaders hits generated possession.

Gallant will land on his feet and be successful whereever he lands. Going forward he'll do well to understand, if not embrace the analytical aspect of the game, but this firing of a successful coach puts all the pressure squarely on the Panthers front office. Interesting move by the Panthers to go all in, where most moves are made based on analytics. Does it work and outperform everyone else or do they find analytics supplements the way things are currently done? My guess is the later because while mathematics can predict certain situations with a certain degree of success humans aren't math equations and can't be predicted with certainty. I'm interested to see if Florida will find success or become the Oakland Athletics of the hockey world.

Why even play games?

Just PS4 simulate everything and be done with it.

Your sycophantic adoration for stats is as blind as any the GMs you claim refuse to utilize stats and go by "look and feel".

Hockey statistics are directional, specifically because the input variables are based on inconsistent applications (the tracker of the data points, like referees, sees things differently from game to game). Furthermore, unlike baseball, where most events are unique and distinct (a pitch, a ball, a strike, a hit, a double play... etc...), in hockey events are interrelated in a more complex ecosystem given the constant flow and movement of the game.

Anyone who solely uses stats to make their point is as blind as anyone who solely uses the "look and feel" approach, as well.

Until you do both, you are just a hack presenting part of the picture.
- Mashadar

Well (frank)ing said