GARTH'S CORNER: Miller Royal Blood?

Yes please

Garth, if I have to let go of my Loungo Man Crush, you need to let Miller go too.

There is only "talk" of a trade is on radio talk shows. Maybe if it was Decemeber but teh Canucks are already having trouble selling tickets and if they traded Miller it would be an admission that they are throwing in the towel.... after 3 games? After three wins?

This trade proposal does not make any sense.
First of all, Ryan Miller is no longer a front line, starting goalie. Markstrom will soon emerge as the starting goalie. Miller is 36 years old and has a cap hit of $6M and he's a UFA next year.

LA Kings have $1.6M in current Cap Space. So they would need to ship out over $4M to make this deal happen.

The Canucks only have $2M in available cap space, so absorbing a portion of his 6M salary is unlikely. The only way this deal could happen is if the Canucks took back a bad contract from the Kings.

The Kings aren't going to give the Canucks good young, cheap talent or picks for a washed up, overpaid, Ryan Miller.

Well, if Quick is placed on IR, LA will get cap relief, might be enough to cover Miller's contract if VAN pays a portion of it. They could flip him near deadline, if Quick comes back healthy enough to play, and recoup a pick or player.

This trade proposal does not make any sense.
First of all, Ryan Miller is no longer a front line, starting goalie. Markstrom will soon emerge as the starting goalie. Miller is 36 years old and has a cap hit of $6M and he's a UFA next year.

LA Kings have $1.6M in current Cap Space. So they would need to ship out over $4M to make this deal happen.

The Canucks only have $2M in available cap space, so absorbing a portion of his 6M salary is unlikely. The only way this deal could happen is if the Canucks took back a bad contract from the Kings.

The Kings aren't going to give the Canucks good young, cheap talent or picks for a washed up, overpaid, Ryan Miller.
- EugenesAxe

Overpaid... perhaps, although three years ago that was the cost of doing business in a post Gillis era where Gillis did not plan for a future.

Washed Up... you have not watched a Canuck game in years, have you?

Canucks Cap space is 3.2 million, so you are off by 1.2 million there alone. 50% of his contract leaves the Canucks with .2 off the cap. They take no salary back in active roster players but take a #1 pick and take Scuderi and Campbell to make the the vast majority of LA's remaining cap. Canucks assign both to minors.

For that matter, Kings would save 600,000 by moving Budaj instead of Campbell.

Done.

*** AND NEVER FORGET ***

The Kings make up to 3 million a night in home playoff dates. Add that their window is closing and you have a team that is motivated. Canucks are not expecting any playoff home dates this year so they lose nothing by moving their goalie.

Overpaid... perhaps, although three years ago that was the cost of doing business in a post Gillis era where Gillis did not plan for a future.

Washed Up... you have not watched a Canuck game in years, have you?

Canucks Cap space is 3.2 million, so you are off by 1.2 million there alone. 50% of his contract leaves the Canucks with .2 off the cap. They take no salary back in active roster players but take a #1 pick and take Scuderi and Campbell to make the the vast majority of LA's remaining cap. Canucks assign both to minors.

For that matter, Kings would save 600,000 by moving Budaj instead of Campbell.

Done.

*** AND NEVER FORGET ***

The Kings make up to 3 million a night in home playoff dates. Add that their window is closing and you have a team that is motivated. Canucks are not expecting any playoff home dates this year so they lose nothing by moving their goalie.
- Beatle_john

My apologies Canuck fan. Cap Friendly Dot com has their space at 2.4m so I guess we are both wrong. Miller is now an average NHL goalie. No longer Vezina caliber. a first round pick. You can get Bishop for a first and he's still in his prime. The Kings have been trading away #1's for years now. They won't make that mistake for Miller

BTW, the Canucks remind me of the Leafs circa 2009. Aging roster, aging stars. Bringing in middling free agents (Ericson) to help them finish 23rd instead to 29th.
Blame Gillis all you want but Benning continues down a futile path of mediocrity. No doubt to appease the Sedin's. In a few years, when the Sedin's are gone, where will they be? Likely at or near the bottom

My apologies Canuck fan. Cap Friendly Dot com has their space at 2.4m so I guess we are both wrong. Miller is now an average NHL goalie. No longer Vezina caliber. a first round pick. You can get Bishop for a first and he's still in his prime. The Kings have been trading away #1's for years now. They won't make that mistake for Miller

BTW, the Canucks remind me of the Leafs circa 2009. Aging roster, aging stars. Bringing in middling free agents (Ericson) to help them finish 23rd instead to 29th.
Blame Gillis all you want but Benning continues down a futile path of mediocrity. No doubt to appease the Sedin's. In a few years, when the Sedin's are gone, where will they be? Likely at or near the bottom
- EugenesAxe

Thanks for your opinions. I disagree. How is signing Loui Eriksson through 22-23, "appease" the Sedins who are signed though next year? Who needs appeasing anyways? For goodness sakes, Eriksson is a 30 goal scores just last season... he is not the Sedin's project or puppet.

And that is how a team does it.... no one goes from 27 to 16 to 1. They need to transition. Just how the kings are on their way down.... they call it "Closing Windows" but we all know that means uncontrolled free fall.

So of course Miller is not worth a 1st rounder.... but circumstances have the Kings by the short and curlies....

1. Quick Down
2. Backup Down
3. No $$$ to sign Bishop (Come on man, you dreaming?)
4. Window closing and they need to do something... ummm... "Quick"
My source was Cap Central. Usually a pretty good source.

Benning needed a year of stop-gap measures to stop the bleeding caused by Gillis and Kesler. His trades for Sven Baertschi,Markus Granlund and Erik Gudbranson seem pretty strong trades.

Thanks for your opinions. I disagree. How is signing Loui Eriksson through 22-23, "appease" the Sedins who are signed though next year? Who needs appeasing anyways? For goodness sakes, Eriksson is a 30 goal scores just last season... he is not the Sedin's project or puppet.

And that is how a team does it.... no one goes from 27 to 16 to 1. They need to transition. Just how the kings are on their way down.... they call it "Closing Windows" but we all know that means uncontrolled free fall.

So of course Miller is not worth a 1st rounder.... but circumstances have the Kings by the short and curlies....

1. Quick Down
2. Backup Down
3. No $$$ to sign Bishop (Come on man, you dreaming?)
4. Window closing and they need to do something... ummm... "Quick"
My source was Cap Central. Usually a pretty good source.

Benning needed a year of stop-gap measures to stop the bleeding caused by Gillis and Kesler. His trades for Sven Baertschi,Markus Granlund and Erik Gudbranson seem pretty strong trades.
- Beatle_john

Wow, your opinions are more correct than mine. Good luck with the Canucks this year. Did you wear those rose coloured glasses during the post game riot?