HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Hotstove: Thoughts On Brad Marchand's Extension With The Boston Bruins?

Amazing how little respect Marchand is getting. 30+ goal winger (with almost no PP time) and arguably the best defensive winger in the league. Bergeron Marchand far and away the best value duo in the league. As far as the term, that's the way she goes these days. Everyone seemed OK with Steen getting paid till he's 37

Amazing how little respect Marchand is getting. 30+ goal winger (with almost no PP time) and arguably the best defensive winger in the league. Bergeron Marchand far and away the best value duo in the league. As far as the term, that's the way she goes these days. Everyone seemed OK with Steen getting paid till he's 37
- Shaundre93

He scored 37 goals last year, the first time he ever scored 30+ goals.

I hate Marchand, with a passion, but I do recognize him as a very effective player for the Bruins. The lenght is worrysome and I.... (urgh....) agree with Tanner that the odds of him scoring at the same pace he did last year are against him and he should go back to his average of 25 goals. But hey, crazier things have happened.

This being said, if the Bruins wanted to keep him, and they had every reason to, it was the amount they had to pay.

He scored 37 goals last year, the first time he ever scored 30+ goals.

I hate Marchand, with a passion, but I do recognize him as a very effective player for the Bruins. The lenght is worrysome and I.... (urgh....) agree with Tanner that the odds of him scoring at the same pace he did last year are against him and he should go back to his average of 25 goals. But hey, crazier things have happened.

This being said, if the Bruins wanted to keep him, and they had every reason to, it was the amount they had to pay.
- Scabeh

I doubt he beats 30 goals again. 25 goals is pretty good too though.

I have a hard time thinking of him as a $6M player. Especially over 8 years. when he's already 28. He's also a small guy that plays a tough game, that doesn't bode well for longevity.

I think it'll be a decent contract..... for about 3 or 4 years. Then it becomes a bit of a problem contract.

He's the new Alex Burrows.

I'd take him over Kessel....so he's worth it and tradeable even if he's overpaid for a couple years at the end.

HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Hotstove: Thoughts On Brad Marchand's Extension With The Boston Bruins?
- ToddCordellVAN

Don't actually know if Tanner ment to type 73 or 37.

If we have him locked up until he's 73, then that's incredible value. Good job Donnie.
We can count on at least 32 - 33 decent years from Marchy. At a 25 goal pace he's on track to eclipse 800 or 900 goals. Excellent deal for both sides.

I think Marchand is actually pretty unique. Not many like him.

- glove_was_stuck

Why exactly cant he pot 30+ again? I love this argument. He scored more than ever so surely its an outlier!!!

Why exactly cant he pot 30+ again? I love this argument. He scored more than ever so surely its an outlier!!!
- YuenglingJagr

It's POSSIBLE he does it again. At his age, it usually is an outlier though, yeah.

Why exactly cant he pot 30+ again? I love this argument. He scored more than ever so surely its an outlier!!!
- YuenglingJagr

I think something like 25-32 is his range for the duration of his prime years.

His true assets are his penalty killing and sound two way game. Anything over 25 goals is just a bonus IMO.

It's POSSIBLE he does it again. At his age, it usually is an outlier though, yeah.
- prock

Why

I think something like 25-32 is his range for the duration of his prime years.

His true assets are his penalty killing and sound two way game. Anything over 25 goals is just a bonus IMO.
- Cape Breton Bruins

There are several reasons why he would not score as many goals as last year. Usage and injury would obviously have an effect, but shooting percentage is what causes most of the variation in goals scored. Marchand actually shot below his career average last year. The difference for him was the amount of shots he took. It wasn't just some lucky streak based off of shooting percentage or offensive zone starts. Last year he simply just got more shots on goal. There really isnt much reason to doubt him doing it again

man... try to tell boston fans that there is a ton of risk in this deal and that it is more likely than not to be problematic a few years in and they are ready to massacre you!

Why
- YuenglingJagr

why is it an outlier at that age? Well, because learning curves and physical development curves generally have most people stagnate much before 28 years old. Hockey players fall into the category of humans. Generally, physically, hockey players (again, humans), start to actually decline around 30 as well.

That's why.

There are several reasons why he would not score as many goals as last year. Usage and injury would obviously have an effect, but shooting percentage is what causes most of the variation in goals scored. Marchand actually shot below his career average last year. The difference for him was the amount of shots he took. It wasn't just some lucky streak based off of shooting percentage or offensive zone starts. Last year he simply just got more shots on goal. There really isnt much reason to doubt him doing it again
- YuenglingJagr

Well if THAT'S all it is, why the hell didn't he take 250 shots before now?

why is it an outlier at that age? Well, because learning curves and physical development curves generally have most people stagnate much before 28 years old. Hockey players fall into the category of humans. Generally, physically, hockey players (again, humans), start to actually decline around 30 as well.

That's why.
- prock

So when he pots 37 doesn't that mean that he didnt stagnate and has learned enough and developed enough physically to score 37 goals?

Explain why he scored all those goals? It was accidental? He forgot what curve he was supposed to follow?

Well if THAT'S all it is, why the hell didn't he take 250 shots before now?
- prock

TOI for one...PP TOI especially

So when he pots 37 doesn't that mean that he didnt stagnate and has learned enough and developed enough physically to score 37 goals?

Explain why he scored all those goals? It was accidental? He forgot what curve he was supposed to follow?
- YuenglingJagr

Well, you see, sometimes, people do things once, and then don't do them again. Players sometimes go on unsustainable streaks. It happens.

he had a good year. This has happened before, with players of his caliber, and at his age. The vast majority of times, they just don't do it again.

This is what people are trying to tell you. Odds are, he doesn't repeat. He could. But he probably won't.

- glove_was_stuck

Well, you see, sometimes, people do things once, and then don't do them again. Players sometimes go on unsustainable streaks. It happens.

he had a good year. This has happened before, with players of his caliber, and at his age. The vast majority of times, they just don't do it again.

This is what people are trying to tell you. Odds are, he doesn't repeat. He could. But he probably won't.
- prock

Okay, Tanner, thanks for your wisdom. If he doesn't repeat it will be because of a noticeable difference in the way he is used, his shooting percentage, or an injury. Since you're ignoring the obvious legitimacy in what he did last year, you'll probably ignore the reason he doesnt score 37 again and chalk it up to your magic game of chance

Okay, Tanner, thanks for your wisdom. If he doesn't repeat it will be because of a noticeable difference in the way he is used, his shooting percentage, or an injury. Since you're ignoring the obvious legitimacy in what he did last year, you'll probably ignore the reason he doesnt score 37 again and chalk it up to your magic game of chance
- YuenglingJagr

Whoa dude, you need a valium.

I'm not ignoring the legitimacy of anything. Whether he does it again or not (probably not), he did it once, I'm not saying he didn't or he cheated, or anything like that.

Do you think Kyle Palmieri will hit 30 again?

Scott Harnell scored 37 a few years back, with a similar shooting%. Why never again?

Whoa dude, you need a valium.

I'm not ignoring the legitimacy of anything. Whether he does it again or not (probably not), he did it once, I'm not saying he didn't or he cheated, or anything like that.

Do you think Kyle Palmieri will hit 30 again?

Scott Harnell scored 37 a few years back, with a similar shooting%. Why never again?
- prock

LOL. Scott Hartnell's "similar" shooting percentage that was 3.5 percentage points higher than his career avg

If Kyle Palmieri gets more than the 3rd line ice time he was getting in ANA, getting 30 again isnt out of the question.