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Ty Anderson
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 09.23.2015

Sep 8 @ 1:57 PM ET
Ty Anderson: Nikita Kucherov gets contract offer from KHL club
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Sep 8 @ 2:23 PM ET
Not going anywhere...moving on
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 8 @ 2:23 PM ET
Of course Kuch received an "offer" from the KHL...

Shocking to see these cheap Russian negotiation tactics.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 8 @ 2:41 PM ET
Of course Kuch received an "offer" from the KHL...

Shocking to see these cheap Russian negotiation tactics.

- As_I_See_It



How are they cheap? If another employer offered you a ridiculous amount of money are you going to decline the offer, or would you use it as additional leverage to get paid more?

I know 99.9% of the population would use it as additional leverage.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Sep 8 @ 2:59 PM ET
Good I hope he signs there - Yzermans an arrogant little F&*K - I hope Tampa lose him and Bishop and Druin and Johnson and Palat - they didn't even deserve to get Stampkos!!!
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Sep 8 @ 3:11 PM ET
Good I hope he signs there - Yzermans an arrogant little F&*K - I hope Tampa lose him and Bishop and Druin and Johnson and Palat - they didn't even deserve to get Stampkos!!! - Brooks_Light


As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 8 @ 4:12 PM ET
How are they cheap? If another employer offered you a ridiculous amount of money are you going to decline the offer, or would you use it as additional leverage to get paid more?

I know 99.9% of the population would use it as additional leverage.

- TheUltimateJet

Right, because 99.9% of North American and European players use KHL offers as leverage.

Everybody knows that Kucherov isn't going to leave the NHL to go play in a glorified beer league. That's what makes this such a joke.
tpd11
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 05.22.2008

Sep 8 @ 4:49 PM ET
Good I hope he signs there - Yzermans an arrogant little F&*K - I hope Tampa lose him and Bishop and Druin and Johnson and Palat - they didn't even deserve to get Stampkos!!!
- Brooks_Light

And we care what you think? Not likely but thanks for stopping by and making an as* of yourself
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Sep 8 @ 4:51 PM ET
How are they cheap? If another employer offered you a ridiculous amount of money are you going to decline the offer, or would you use it as additional leverage to get paid more?

I know 99.9% of the population would use it as additional leverage.

- TheUltimateJet


Kuch's leverage is comparable contracts signed by other players around the NHL. This KHL "offer" isn't worth the paper it is printed on much less worth anything as "leverage" in negotiations. Kuch isn't going to the KHL, Kuch knows that, Yzerman knows that, hell even the KHL knows that. No harm in "trying" even if in this case all they are doing is pissing upwind, but that is where this attempt by KHL begins and ends.

I would hope that everyone has learned by now that Yzerman isn't gonna be bullied by "outside" pressures. Just ask Drouin/Walsh how that goes
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Sep 8 @ 4:52 PM ET
Good I hope he signs there - Yzermans an arrogant little F&*K - I hope Tampa lose him and Bishop and Druin and Johnson and Palat - they didn't even deserve to get Stampkos!!!
- Brooks_Light





Next time try not to drop your tampon in the sand...it doesn't hurt as much
NoobasaurusRex
Dallas Stars
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.18.2011

Sep 8 @ 8:04 PM ET
I still think bishop ends up in Dallas. Hopefully before the season starts
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Sep 8 @ 10:49 PM ET
I still think bishop ends up in Dallas. Hopefully before the season starts
- NoobasaurusRex

What would you if you were Dallas's GM give up to get him?
yzermaneely
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Poway, CA
Joined: 12.17.2011

Sep 9 @ 2:41 AM ET
Good I hope he signs there - Yzermans an arrogant little F&*K - I hope Tampa lose him and Bishop and Druin and Johnson and Palat - they didn't even deserve to get Stampkos!!!
- Brooks_Light

You must have this Yzerman confused with some other Yzerman.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 9 @ 4:18 AM ET
How is Kucherov being cheap? He's the fifth or sixth best wing in the league behind Ovechkin, Benn, Tarasenko, Kane, and maybe Hall and he's only 23. His actual worth is much more than the Lightning can give him if we're assuming the Lightning can only realistically give him 6 mil AAV long term. If Kuch signs for anything under 7.5 mil he's being the complete opposite of cheap. It'd be in his interest to force arbitration/get a bridge deal and cash in when he's closer to UFA.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 9 @ 11:55 AM ET
How is Kucherov being cheap? He's the fifth or sixth best wing in the league behind Ovechkin, Benn, Tarasenko, Kane, and maybe Hall and he's only 23. His actual worth is much more than the Lightning can give him if we're assuming the Lightning can only realistically give him 6 mil AAV long term. If Kuch signs for anything under 7.5 mil he's being the complete opposite of cheap. It'd be in his interest to force arbitration/get a bridge deal and cash in when he's closer to UFA.
- Victoro311


He didn't file for arbitration, I don't think.
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Sep 9 @ 12:59 PM ET
He didn't file for arbitration, I don't think.
- j.boyd919


Correct, I believe Killorn and Namesy were the only 2 to file and obviously both were avoided
TBolts4
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Apollo Beach, FL
Joined: 06.01.2013

Sep 9 @ 1:29 PM ET
He didn't file for arbitration, I don't think.
- j.boyd919


He didn't have arbitration rights.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 9 @ 1:45 PM ET
He didn't have arbitration rights.
- TBolts4


How does that work, how do you get arbitration rights?
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Sep 9 @ 2:45 PM ET
How does that work, how do you get arbitration rights?
- j.boyd919


Most players must have four years of NHL experience before they are eligible for salary arbitration (the term is reduced for those who signed their first NHL contract after the age of 20).

Killorn started his ELC after he was 20 was two year removed from his initial ELC which gave him arbitration rights and Namestnikov was one year removed from his ELC which gave him the four years necessary to file for arbitration.

Kucherov would have ARB rights next year if say he signed a 1 year deal this year which gives him the 4 years of NHL experience.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 9 @ 3:01 PM ET
Right, because 99.9% of North American and European players use KHL offers as leverage.

Everybody knows that Kucherov isn't going to leave the NHL to go play in a glorified beer league. That's what makes this such a joke.

- As_I_See_It



Several russian players have gotten offers. To my knowledge, not counting Russians running away because they're in trouble for beating their wives, only Kovalchuk has actually done it, and we all that was a disaster.
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Sep 10 @ 12:01 PM ET
Palat with a knee on knee hit to Kucherov in Exhibition game. Yipes. Good thing Kuch not injured.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 11 @ 6:38 AM ET
He didn't file for arbitration, I don't think.
- j.boyd919

I didn't claim he did I just said it'd be in his interest. I didn't know he didn't have the rights though. I still don't have the best handle on RFA.
tpd11
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 05.22.2008

Sep 11 @ 8:17 AM ET
My question is If Kucherov did sign with the KHL does Kucherovski go with him?
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 12 @ 10:24 AM ET
I didn't claim he did I just said it'd be in his interest. I didn't know he didn't have the rights though. I still don't have the best handle on RFA.
- Victoro311


My comment was more so that if he did have rights, the deadline to file for arbitration has past, I thought it had to be done by a certain date, so even if he was eligible, it was too late. I could be wrong though?
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 12 @ 10:24 AM ET
My question is If Kucherov did sign with the KHL does Kucherovski go with him?
- tpd11


I (frank)in hope so.