Jan Levine: Kreider and Rangers Submit Arb Figures, Is LT Deal to be Had? Hearing is Friday

Schwartz>>>>>Kreider.

Schwartz got 5 years @ 5.35, Killorn 7 years @ 4.45 and Johansson 3 years @ 4.58. Someone remember what those guys were asking?

Lowball and a half by the Rag$

The Schwartz deal is great leverage for us. Schwartz is a significantly better and more complete player.

mdw, are you back to wanting to give Kreider a 2 year deal?

Schwartz got 5 years @ 5.35, Killorn 7 years @ 4.45 and Johansson 3 years @ 4.58. Someone remember what those guys were asking?
- 21peter

All three were slated for hearing today. Schwartz and Killorn likely never ended up submitting figures because they settled more than a few days before the scheduled hearing. I have to check on Johansson.

Lowball and a half by the Rag$

The Schwartz deal is great leverage for us. Schwartz is a significantly better and more complete player.
- rangerdanger94

Thats my point. You don't think Schwartz is 800k better than Kreider? Kreider at 4.5 is where he should top out.

mdw, are you back to wanting to give Kreider a 2 year deal?
- mrn22

wtf are you talking about?

Thats my point. You don't think Schwartz is 800k better than Kreider? Kreider at 4.5 is where he should top out.
- mdw7413

I think that Kreider will get somewhere in between Palmeri and Schwartz' contracts, probably closer to Palmeri.

Thats my point. You don't think Schwartz is 800k better than Kreider? Kreider at 4.5 is where he should top out.
- mdw7413

Schwartz is better no doubt. But you can list 5 players making more than that that are worse than Kreider too.

The Rangers have their comparable contracts and Kreider will list his

5.25 was the number Johansson requested
Caps were at 3.85

wtf are you talking about?
- mdw7413

"In two years if he stays exactly the same I'm guessing they could still lock him up for 5-5.25. so really the only risk is if he does score 30 in the next 2 years. By then Nash will be gone, Girardi will be bought out, Cap will probably go up, so it will be easier to overpay a bit. "

that is what u said in the last blog

@WineryDog

Thanks

"In two years if he stays exactly the same I'm guessing they could still lock him up for 5-5.25. so really the only risk is if he does score 30 in the next 2 years. By then Nash will be gone, Girardi will be bought out, Cap will probably go up, so it will be easier to overpay a bit. "

that is what u said in the last blog
- mrn22

If the Rangers decided to give him the 2 years in the arbitration.

If the Rangers decided to give him the 2 years in the arbitration, it would be an asinine move. lock him up baybay!
- mdw7413

we finally agree

Schwartz is better no doubt. But you can list 5 players making more than that that are worse than Kreider too.

The Rangers have their comparable contracts and Kreider will list his
- rangerdanger94

New contract this year?

All three were slated for hearing today. Schwartz and Killorn likely never ended up submitting figures because they settled more than a few days before the scheduled hearing. I have to check on Johansson.
- airjan23

(WineryDog answered it, Jan)

Guessing Kreids get a frontloaded deal and possibly a NTC for the first 2-3 years if they're going for a 4-6 years deal...

we finally agree
- mrn22

Whats the point of debating the same thing over and over. You want to pay your favorites dumb money.

Just give me long term deal please

Whats the point of debating the same thing over and over. You want to pay your favorites dumb money.
- mdw7413

or I just don't wanna do this all over again next summer where he will be asking for 6 mil per on a long term deal before he becomes a ufa...

but yes there is no point in talking further about this (I just needed to get in the last word)

or I just don't wanna do this all over again next summer where he will be asking for 6 mil per on a long term deal before he becomes a ufa...

but yes there is no point in talking further about this (I just needed to get in the last word)
- mrn22

- mdw7413

anyways hows the pup?

Go all in: max 8 years at $4.5M so he can walk away at 33 and someone else can overpay for a declining vet.

Considering what gets $4.5-$5M these days that would give the Rangers 3 bargain deals with McD, Zucc, and CK20.

Jan Levine: Kreider and Rangers Submit Arb Figures, Is LT Deal to be Had?
Hearing is Friday
- airjan23

TPC...come out to play-e-ay

New contract this year?
- mdw7413

Reilly Smith, Vincent Trocheck, Filip Forsberg, Nathan MacKinnon, Mark Schiefele, and Mathieu Perreault all come to mind

I think Kreider is better than Smith and Perreault and has a longer track record than Trocheck. Forsberg, MacKinnon and Schiefele are all obviously better than Kreider but they're all making over $6M per on their extensions. So Kreider can say "if Schiefle is making 6.25M per year, I should be at least 5.