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Noel Fogelman
New York Islanders
Location: Trumbull, CT
Joined: 07.08.2015

Jul 1 @ 10:35 PM ET
Noel Fogelman: Busy Day for Islanders
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:38 PM ET
Not busy enough.....
BlackhawkDown
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Peterborough, ON
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:41 PM ET
Crazy money and too much term given to aging veterans on the downside of their careers. Ladd will bring the hits though, and will be a crowd favorite. Just too much term, buyout city in 4-5 years...
NY_Isles_91
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.22.2016

Jul 1 @ 10:42 PM ET
Not busy enough.....
- Ur Not Me


I like the moves so far...but I agree with you (was only day 1 though)... still need to get one more guy, obviously preferably a 1st line winger.
NY_Isles_91
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.22.2016

Jul 1 @ 10:48 PM ET
Crazy money and too much term given to aging veterans on the downside of their careers. Ladd will bring the hits though, and will be a crowd favorite. Just too much term, buyout city in 4-5 years...
- BlackhawkDown


love Ladd at 5.5mil per, but yes 2 years to many
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:53 PM ET
Strait is definitely gone? Somebody post the bouncy girl gif.
BlackhawkDown
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Peterborough, ON
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:10 PM ET
Ladd does have good hands around the net. He will bring more to the team game than the guys who left IF he can stay healthy.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:32 PM ET
Ladd does have good hands around the net. He will bring more to the team game than the guys who left IF he can stay healthy.
- BlackhawkDown

Okposo is a bit injury prone as well. Looking forward to seeing Ladd with jt
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:36 PM ET
ITs no different than with any of the other 30-plus UFAs who signed these long deals. They are all regretted half way through.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:07 AM ET
ITs no different than with any of the other 30-plus UFAs who signed these long deals. They are all regretted half way through.
- Jethro09

Yup, but I think there's another lockout before we start wondering if we should buy out Ladd.
Dgmilazz
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.30.2013

Jul 2 @ 12:10 AM ET
ITs no different than with any of the other 30-plus UFAs who signed these long deals. They are all regretted half way through.
- Jethro09

It's the price you have to pay. My understanding is it's a front loaded deal so they might be able to flip him as a cap mule after year 5. Even if they buy him out with 2 years left that's not so bad.

The question is can he contribute in his age 35-36 seasons?
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jul 2 @ 12:27 AM ET
Strait is definitely gone? Somebody post the bouncy girl gif.
- potvin05


jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 2 @ 12:30 AM ET
It's the price you have to pay. My understanding is it's a front loaded deal so they might be able to flip him as a cap mule after year 5. Even if they buy him out with 2 years left that's not so bad.

The question is can he contribute in his age 35-36 seasons?

- Dgmilazz


I read it's $1M/yr salary and declining bonuses each year:
Think it breaksdown something like $8M/$7M/$6M/$5M/$4M/$4M/$4M.
Xaos22
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your mom's house, AB
Joined: 05.26.2016

Jul 2 @ 12:33 AM ET
Ladd is a heck of a player and leader, but he'll be washed up before that contract is done. Lucic is probably in the same boat for us.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 2 @ 12:38 AM ET
I read it's $1M/yr salary and declining bonuses each year:
Think it breaksdown something like $8M/$7M/$6M/$5M/$4M/$4M/$4M.

- jmo16

Anybody know the purpose of structuring the deal this way? Does it benefit the player or the team more? Just curious....
Xaos22
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your mom's house, AB
Joined: 05.26.2016

Jul 2 @ 12:39 AM ET
Anybody know the purpose of structuring the deal this way? Does it benefit the player or the team more? Just curious....
- JohnScammo

In case there's another lockout the player still gets paid
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 2 @ 12:42 AM ET
In case there's another lockout the player still gets paid
- Xaos22

Thanks. I guess they REALLY like Ladd....
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 2 @ 12:46 AM ET
Anybody know the purpose of structuring the deal this way? Does it benefit the player or the team more? Just curious....
- JohnScammo



I would think it's more financially attractive to trade him to another team toward the end of the contract, even tho the cap hit is still the same.
Dgmilazz
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.30.2013

Jul 2 @ 12:51 AM ET
I would think it's more financially attractive to trade him to another team toward the end of the contract, even tho the cap hit is still the same.
- jmo16

Yeah these contracts can be useful as it let's a small market team make it above the salary cap floor without actually having to pay the full amount in salaries.

BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 2 @ 12:56 AM ET
So what can Leaf fans expect from Martin?
gravyboy33
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: parts unknown
Joined: 05.11.2008

Jul 2 @ 12:59 AM ET
love Ladd at 5.5mil per, but yes 2 years to many
- NY_Isles_91

Try 4 years too many , his style of play he's gonna break real soon
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 2 @ 1:01 AM ET
So what can Leaf fans expect from Martin?
- BetterCallSaul

Great humanitarian, fan favorite, hits leader, gives it every shift, drops gloves when appropriate (good, but not great fighter), may be hard pressed to match his 10 goals this past season.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 2 @ 1:02 AM ET
Try 4 years too many , his style of play he's gonna break real soon
- gravyboy33

Definitely a risk...
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 2 @ 1:03 AM ET
So what can Leaf fans expect from Martin?
- BetterCallSaul


You'll love him as a 4th liner. Great teammate & involved in the community.

If he concentrates on NOT trying to lead the league in hits, he might actually be able to repeat scoring 10 (or more) goals. Doesn't have bad instincts around the net....just doesn't get the opportunities and takes himself out of the play a little when he's pinballing off every guy who touches the puck.

Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jul 2 @ 1:18 AM ET
In case there's another lockout the player still gets paid
- Xaos22


Easier to trade the contract as well - budget team receives the benefit of the high cap hit but only pays a lower Tarif real $. I wonder who those types of teams will be in 5 years?? Las Vegas?

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