Bill Meltzer: Musings: Defining a 'Deep' Draft

All scouts can do project how a kid's game will translate to the next level. A lot of busts in professional sports occur because they are not mentally mature enough. No real analytics to gage a player's heart, work ethic, and overall attitude.

Kudos to the flyers unearthing hidden gems in seidenberg and sharp

Obviously "depth" is impossible to predict. I think a minimum of 160 NHL games played makes the pick a success.

Welcome to draft day where everyone has an opinion, no one truly knows what to expect and every prospect will be overly hyped as the next superstar by Regis.

Bill,

The time you put into these posts are very much admired and appreciated.

Obviously "depth" is impossible to predict. I think a minimum of 160 NHL games played makes the pick a success.
- Scoob

Hard to say unless you take it round by round. To be considered a successful draft pick, my expectations would be:

Top 10 overall pick: Becomes at least an above average NHL player, if not a star.

the rest of the first round: Becomes a solid NHL regular

2nd round: Becomes a legit NHL player

3rd round: plays 100 or more NHL games

4th-7th round: plays in the NHL at all.

A lot of busts in professional sports occur because they are not mentally mature enough.
- Pelle31Forever

Some, definitely fell into this category.

Most busts, however, seem to be teams gambling big on tools and hoping hockey sense/creativity/competitiveness 'develop'.

Hard to say unless you take it round by round. To be considered a successful draft pick, my expectations would be:

Top 10 overall pick: Becomes at least an above average NHL player, if not a star.

the rest of the first round: Becomes a solid NHL regular

2nd round: Becomes a legit NHL player

3rd round: plays 100 or more NHL games

4th-7th round: plays in the NHL at all.
- BiggE

Fair enough, I was speaking in general.

Some of those mid-90s drafts are just horrible. A few names here and there, but a lot more misses than hits.

All scouts can do project how a kid's game will translate to the next level. A lot of busts in professional sports occur because they are not mentally mature enough. No real analytics to gage a player's heart, work ethic, and overall attitude.
- Pelle31Forever

I think they need to have a Work Ethic For % of at least 60.5 if they want to go in the top-10.

A successful draft is the number of Shayne Gostisbheres acquired...so far we have had 1

A successful draft is the number of Shayne Gostisbheres acquired...so far we have had 1
- YuenglingJagr

But you know...Cruel Summer by Bananarama is a really good song.

But you know...Cruel Summer by Bananarama is a really good song.
- jmatchett383

I wont disagree

if the flyers were to trade MDZ, what do you think the return would possibly be?

think it was glen sather who said many moons ago if you get 2 kids out of each draft that go on to nhl careers you did good.

if the flyers were to trade MDZ, what do you think the return would possibly be?
- rinaldo

Hard to say, depends a lot on how thin the other team is on D and how badly they want him.

if the flyers were to trade MDZ, what do you think the return would possibly be?
- rinaldo

a 5th, 6th, and 7th rounder

think it was glen sather who said many moons ago if you get 2 kids out of each draft that go on to nhl careers you did good.
- rinaldo

I think there's some gray area there. If you're drafting at the back end of both rounds (20+/50+) that's probably fair. But if you have 2 1sts and draft early in the second, you're hoping that all 3 make it.

a 5th, 6th, and 7th rounder
- YuenglingJagr

Anyone good in those rounds?

Anyone good in those rounds?
- Streit2ThePoint

To me...there are 3 names that stick out

Hard to say, depends a lot on how thin the other team is on D and how badly they want him.
- BiggE

I think MDZ is a player where the return will never equal his value on the team.

think it was glen sather who said many moons ago if you get 2 kids out of each draft that go on to nhl careers you did good.
- rinaldo

I think there's a bit more to it than that

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I think MDZ is a player where the return will never equal his value on the team.
- jmatchett383

Most likely. Same with Mason. Better off just keeping them. I'd like to re-sign MDZ long term