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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 30 @ 12:28 PM ET
Michael Pachla: Matthew Tkachuk serves notice, may be just out of reach for Buffalo
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 30 @ 12:44 PM ET
My allergies are driving me crazy.

Ah, ah, ah, Tkachoooook!!!!!
doppelthat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.07.2012

May 30 @ 12:45 PM ET
As much as I would like a winger with the size of Tkachuk I think Buffalo needs to get a defenseman first. Not enough depth on the blue line and not many FA's that are all that exciting.
doppelthat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.07.2012

May 30 @ 12:46 PM ET
My allergies are driving me crazy.

Ah, ah, ah, Tkachoooook!!!!!

- Der Kaiser


Bless you.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 30 @ 12:51 PM ET
Bogosian, Gionta, Johnson and Co. just had to win all those games down the stretch didn't they??....
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 30 @ 12:54 PM ET


Tkachuk will be taken at #4 or #5... He's "long gone" by #8. There's no point in Sabres fans discussing drafting Tkachuk unless the Sabres trade up.

That said, what are the Sabres dealing to get up to #4 or #5?
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

May 30 @ 1:01 PM ET


Tkachuk will be taken at #4 or #5... He's "long gone" by #8. There's no point in Sabres fans discussing drafting Tkachuk unless the Sabres trade up.

That said, what are the Sabres dealing to get up to #4 or #5?

- As_I_See_It



So, you didn't read the blog?
GloveHandStrong
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Kenowhere, WI
Joined: 07.02.2014

May 30 @ 1:02 PM ET
The Canucks will most likely take Matthew Tkachuk (if available) or if Tkachuk is taken then it will probably be Pierre Luc-Dubois. The McCann for Gudbranson deal pretty much points to Van taking a forward, but if they were to take a D-man they would probably take Sergachev, not Juolevi.
doppelthat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.07.2012

May 30 @ 1:02 PM ET


Tkachuk will be taken at #4 or #5... He's "long gone" by #8. There's no point in Sabres fans discussing drafting Tkachuk unless the Sabres trade up.

That said, what are the Sabres dealing to get up to #4 or #5?

- As_I_See_It


That was the point of the blog. I don't think the Sabres move up but if they do I'm thinking it takes the 8th overall, Guhle, Ennis
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

May 30 @ 1:31 PM ET
I'm curious, has anyone heard 89 handicap the Stamkos sweepstakes? I know he can't know, but I was wondering what he thought the odds were for each of the potential suitors.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 30 @ 1:32 PM ET

That was the point of the blog. I don't think the Sabres move up but if they do I'm thinking it takes the 8th overall, Guhle, Ennis

- doppelthat

Draft the winger trade for the d-man.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 30 @ 1:33 PM ET
I'm curious, has anyone heard 89 handicap the Stamkos sweepstakes? I know he can't know, but I was wondering what he thought the odds were for each of the potential suitors.
- Cup Crazy '07

You have to give to get.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 30 @ 1:33 PM ET
I'm curious, has anyone heard 89 handicap the Stamkos sweepstakes? I know he can't know, but I was wondering what he thought the odds were for each of the potential suitors.
- Cup Crazy '07

Opinions vary.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 30 @ 1:34 PM ET
I'm curious, has anyone heard 89 handicap the Stamkos sweepstakes? I know he can't know, but I was wondering what he thought the odds were for each of the potential suitors.
- Cup Crazy '07

Hitchcock is a fat pig.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 30 @ 1:34 PM ET
I'm curious, has anyone heard 89 handicap the Stamkos sweepstakes? I know he can't know, but I was wondering what he thought the odds were for each of the potential suitors.
- Cup Crazy '07

When are we getting Olli?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 30 @ 1:35 PM ET
I'm curious, has anyone heard 89 handicap the Stamkos sweepstakes? I know he can't know, but I was wondering what he thought the odds were for each of the potential suitors.
- Cup Crazy '07



Boat anchor
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 30 @ 1:35 PM ET
I'm curious, has anyone heard 89 handicap the Stamkos sweepstakes? I know he can't know, but I was wondering what he thought the odds were for each of the potential suitors.
- Cup Crazy '07


I don't like your attitude.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 30 @ 1:35 PM ET
I'm curious, has anyone heard 89 handicap the Stamkos sweepstakes? I know he can't know, but I was wondering what he thought the odds were for each of the potential suitors.
- Cup Crazy '07


He stinks.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 30 @ 1:43 PM ET
So, you didn't read the blog?
- rmiethaner


I read it and was emphasizing that Tkachuk being "just out of reach" was a massive understatement. A player being drafted three or four players ahead of the #8th pick is huge at that point in the draft.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 30 @ 1:45 PM ET
I read it and was emphasizing that Tkachuk being "just out of reach" was a massive understatement. A player being drafted three or four players ahead of the #8th pick is huge at that point in the draft.
- As_I_See_It

Your location is dead on, if by "pain" you mean "pain in my ass."
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

May 30 @ 1:51 PM ET
Your location is dead on, if by "pain" you mean "pain in my ass."
- Der Kaiser


Not that there is anything wrong with that...
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 30 @ 1:53 PM ET
Not that there is anything wrong with that...
- Wildschwein

F canada
Centacre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.01.2007

May 30 @ 1:54 PM ET
While I like daydreaming as much as the next guy, you've got to fix some holes in your logic regarding the Oilers.

First off, the Oilers are not going to draft a defenceman. They have quite a few defensive prospects and young defensemen as it is. What they need is a defenceman that can contribute now, not three or four years from now. So if they are staying in the #4 slot they are not drafting a defenceman based on team need. Forget about Tkachuk dropping to 5.

Secondly, the Oilers drafting a forward with four of the last six first overall picks. So what? Let's actually look at Edmonton's forward situation. Yakupov is a bust. And it's almost a certainty that one of Hall, Eberle, and/or Nugent-Hopkins will be traded for an established right-shot defender. So we are left with two of the three listed, McDavid, and Draisaitl as their young forwards. Still a really good group, but exactly as deep as the Strome, Murphy, Duclair, Domi foursome you mention at Arizona. And that's neglecting Christian Dvorak who should have been on that list. While Edmonton's "depth" of young forwards means they should now draft a defenceman, Arizona's "depth" means it would be a great idea to draft another forward? Where is the consistency in that logic?

If you know anything about the Oilers, you would know that they need a top 2 right shot defenceman more than anything. They don't need someone who may eventually turn into one. They need one who can fill that role now. The #4 pick is there for the taking for Buffalo if they bring Ristolainen or Bogosian to the table. Not a one for one swap, obviously, but Edmonton would need one of those players coming their way for it to happen. Stop dreaming about Guhle swaying Edmonton. Left shot defenders need not apply.

#7 and #20 for the #4 is intriguing. I wouldn't do it, personally, but it may sway the Oilers if they indeed believe that there is only a small talent difference from 4 to 9. How you can say that with Tkachuk on the table looking like (and scoring like) an elite prospect, I don't know. But if they've truly convinced themselves there is someone in the ball park of Tkachuk, I could see it happening. It wouldn't be the right move, but... Oilers...
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 30 @ 2:00 PM ET
While I like daydreaming as much as the next guy, you've got to fix some holes in your logic regarding the Oilers.

First off, the Oilers are not going to draft a defenceman. They have quite a few defensive prospects and young defensemen as it is. What they need is a defenceman that can contribute now, not three or four years from now. So if they are staying in the #4 slot they are not drafting a defenceman based on team need. Forget about Tkachuk dropping to 5.

Secondly, the Oilers drafting a forward with four of the last six first overall picks. So what? Let's actually look at Edmonton's forward situation. Yakupov is a bust. And it's almost a certainty that one of Hall, Eberle, and/or Nugent-Hopkins will be traded for an established right-shot defender. So we are left with two of the three listed, McDavid, and Draisaitl as their young forwards. Still a really good group, but exactly as deep as the Strome, Murphy, Duclair, Domi foursome you mention at Arizona. And that's neglecting Christian Dvorak who should have been on that list. While Edmonton's "depth" of young forwards means they should now draft a defenceman, Arizona's "depth" means it would be a great idea to draft another forward? Where is the consistency in that logic?

If you know anything about the Oilers, you would know that they need a top 2 right shot defenceman more than anything. They don't need someone who may eventually turn into one. They need one who can fill that role now. The #4 pick is there for the taking for Buffalo if they bring Ristolainen or Bogosian to the table. Not a one for one swap, obviously, but Edmonton would need one of those players coming their way for it to happen. Stop dreaming about Guhle swaying Edmonton. Left shot defenders need not apply.

#7 and #20 for the #4 is intriguing. I wouldn't do it, personally, but it may sway the Oilers if they indeed believe that there is only a small talent difference from 4 to 9. How you can say that with Tkachuk on the table looking like (and scoring like) an elite prospect, I don't know. But if they've truly convinced themselves there is someone in the ball park of Tkachuk, I could see it happening. It wouldn't be the right move, but... Oilers...

- Centacre

disagree
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 30 @ 2:11 PM ET
While I like daydreaming as much as the next guy, you've got to fix some holes in your logic regarding the Oilers.

First off, the Oilers are not going to draft a defenceman. They have quite a few defensive prospects and young defensemen as it is. What they need is a defenceman that can contribute now, not three or four years from now. So if they are staying in the #4 slot they are not drafting a defenceman based on team need. Forget about Tkachuk dropping to 5.

Secondly, the Oilers drafting a forward with four of the last six first overall picks. So what? Let's actually look at Edmonton's forward situation. Yakupov is a bust. And it's almost a certainty that one of Hall, Eberle, and/or Nugent-Hopkins will be traded for an established right-shot defender. So we are left with two of the three listed, McDavid, and Draisaitl as their young forwards. Still a really good group, but exactly as deep as the Strome, Murphy, Duclair, Domi foursome you mention at Arizona. And that's neglecting Christian Dvorak who should have been on that list. While Edmonton's "depth" of young forwards means they should now draft a defenceman, Arizona's "depth" means it would be a great idea to draft another forward? Where is the consistency in that logic?

If you know anything about the Oilers, you would know that they need a top 2 right shot defenceman more than anything. They don't need someone who may eventually turn into one. They need one who can fill that role now. The #4 pick is there for the taking for Buffalo if they bring Ristolainen or Bogosian to the table. Not a one for one swap, obviously, but Edmonton would need one of those players coming their way for it to happen. Stop dreaming about Guhle swaying Edmonton. Left shot defenders need not apply.

#7 and #20 for the #4 is intriguing. I wouldn't do it, personally, but it may sway the Oilers if they indeed believe that there is only a small talent difference from 4 to 9. How you can say that with Tkachuk on the table looking like (and scoring like) an elite prospect, I don't know. But if they've truly convinced themselves there is someone in the ball park of Tkachuk, I could see it happening. It wouldn't be the right move, but... Oilers...

- Centacre

If I were the Oilers, I'd be trying like hell to get Trouba.

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