GARTH'S CORNER: Rist Management

12 premium picks in this upcoming draft? really? didn't realize late rd picks were
considered premium picks.

wasn't it only a few months ago you said "risto" will get a deal worth about 4mm like Maata (which you were mocked at accordingly). Maata has looked bad this year and even worse in the playoffs.

so what made you change your mind and now he is worth close to 6?

with all that murrency, ennis, franson, pysk, and florentino as trade bait he should be able to move up easily I agree. Then add stamkos, wow.

Will it be a disappointment if the sabres don't win 1 cup within the next 5 years?

GARTH'S CORNER: Rist Management
- garth

Q: Is Patrik Laine better than Connor McDavid because he has more points in this IIHF championship? I'll hang up and listen.

Q: Is Patrik Laine better than Connor McDavid because he has more points in this IIHF championship? I'll hang up and listen.
- Deeps27

Of course. Ask a stupid question. Get a stupid answer.

12 premium picks in this upcoming draft? really? didn't realize late rd picks were
considered premium picks.

wasn't it only a few months ago you said "risto" will get a deal worth about 4mm like Maata (which you were mocked at accordingly). Maata has looked bad this year and even worse in the playoffs.

so what made you change your mind and now he is worth close to 6?

with all that murrency, ennis, franson, pysk, and florentino as trade bait he should be able to move up easily I agree. Then add stamkos, wow.

Will it be a disappointment if the sabres don't win 1 cup within the next 5 years?
- rinaldo

Only disappointment will be if you don't approve of all the picks. Buffalo has invested tons of money in scouting. That is how you find the late round jewels. And not living up to your approval will be crushing.

Only disappointment will be if you don't approve of all the picks. Buffalo has invested tons of money in scouting. That is how you find the late round jewels. And not living up to your approval will be crushing.


- Maximum Signal

so is a late round pick ( 6th, 7th rd) considered premium yes or no?

Finding late round jewels is irrelevant to what I asked is it not?

so is a late round pick ( 6th, 7th rd) considered premium yes or no?

Finding late round jewels is irrelevant to what I asked is it not?
- rinaldo

Yes if your GM and his staff are thorough . Good GM's hit on 6 and 7 round picks . Mr Murray's strong point is scouting and talent assessment

Yes if your GM and his staff are thorough . Good GM's hit on 6 and 7 round picks . Mr Murray's strong point is scouting and talent assessment
- Maximum Signal

what do you qualify as hitting on 6 and 7th rd picks?

Do you know what the % is of those picks who make the nhl? So based on that alone they are not premium picks.

So if your staff isn't thorough then they don't qualify has premium picks? How many 6 and 7th rd picks has mr murray sent to the nhl that he was involved in picking as compared to how many he drafted??

what do you qualify as hitting on 6 and 7th rd picks?

Do you know what the % is of those picks who make the nhl? So based on that alone they are not premium picks.

So if your staff isn't thorough then they don't qualify has premium picks? How many 6 and 7th rd picks has mr murray sent to the nhl that he was involved in picking as compared to how many he drafted??
- rinaldo

That is how the top teams stay on top . Do your own research . Mr Murray has hit in lots of organizations. That is where he developed his rep . Sorry you hate everything Buffalo so much

I love Tyler Myers' reaction in the picture (right behind risto). "He's as big as me AND he hits people?"

That is how the top teams stay on top . Do your own research . Mr Murray has hit in lots of organizations. That is where he developed his rep . Sorry you hate everything Buffalo so much
- Maximum Signal

Tim Murray has done little to get this "rep". A quick review found only one legit NHL player he has drafted in the 6/7th rounds. Mark stone is a nice player. But if you are going to laud him for that what about first round busts like Cowan, Puempel and Noesen and O'Brien? All premium picks. All jabronis

That is how the top teams stay on top . Do your own research . Mr Murray has hit in lots of organizations. That is where he developed his rep . Sorry you hate everything Buffalo so much
- Maximum Signal

1. teams stay on top by hitting on their 6 and 7th rd picks? totally disagree on that.

2. again how many 6 and 7th rd picks has he hit on that he was directly involved with and they picked because of him? You said he has hits in lots of organizations, do tell.

buffalo too early to tell and make any conclusions. lest see how he does when he is in complete control.

could careless about anything buffalo. don't have any hate nor like at all.

1. teams stay on top by hitting on their 6 and 7th rd picks? totally disagree on that.

2. again how many 6 and 7th rd picks has he hit on that he was directly involved with and they picked because of him? You said he has hits in lots of organizations, do tell.

buffalo too early to tell and make any conclusions. lest see how he does when he is in complete control.

could careless about anything buffalo. don't have any hate nor like at all.
- rinaldo

I think fans are just happy that regier is gone so much so that murray is hailed as a saviour even though he gets hosed on trades and some average draft picks.

Yes if your GM and his staff are thorough . Good GM's hit on 6 and 7 round picks . Mr Murray's strong point is scouting and talent assessment
- Maximum Signal

Come on, this is stretching it a bit.

If you hit on a 6 or 7 rounder....it's as much luck as being a good judge of talent. (And by "hit", I mean top 6 or top 4 type player). If it were t luck, then at least a few of the hundreds of other pro scouts out there would've seen the potential as well, and that would mean this particular prospect wouldn't be drafted 6 or 7 but 3rd or 4th rnd.

Now, if you're talking a 3 or 4 rounder that turns into a top 6, that's a def hit for the GM

so, when TM sign risto mccabe and girgenson?

I think fans are just happy that regier is gone so much so that murray is hailed as a saviour even though he gets hosed on trades and some average draft picks.
- Wissler

well the eichel pick is a no brainer. To be fair, any one of draisaitl, bennett, or reinhart would have been acceptable. he has drafted lemieux, cornel, karabacek, and guhle as second round picks, lemieux was moved in the bogosian/kane trade to help get rid of the soft/disinterested players from the previous regime. karabacek is pretty meh, but cornel and guhle are in the mix. borgen, martin, stephens, and estephan are later round picks that may have roles in the organization as well. most reasonable sabres fans seem happy with murray so far, i think the biggest complaint was that he traded the 21st pick in the draft last year for a goalie, followed by trading zadorov in the oreilly deal. there is obviously still work to do, but its certainly heading the right way.

Tim Murray has done little to get this "rep". A quick review found only one legit NHL player he has drafted in the 6/7th rounds. Mark stone is a nice player. But if you are going to laud him for that what about first round busts like Cowan, Puempel and Noesen and O'Brien? All premium picks. All jabronis
- EugenesAxe

Be careful with that axe, Eugene.

well the eichel pick is a no brainer. To be fair, any one of draisaitl, bennett, or reinhart would have been acceptable. he has drafted lemieux, cornel, karabacek, and guhle as second round picks, lemieux was moved in the bogosian/kane trade to help get rid of the soft/disinterested players from the previous regime. karabacek is pretty meh, but cornel and guhle are in the mix. borgen, martin, stephens, and estephan are later round picks that may have roles in the organization as well. most reasonable sabres fans seem happy with murray so far, i think the biggest complaint was that he traded the 21st pick in the draft last year for a goalie, followed by trading zadorov in the oreilly deal. there is obviously still work to do, but its certainly heading the right way.
- rover16

I just get wicked jfj flash backs when i see young players like grigorenko zadorov compher lemieux and potentially this summer girgensons and pysyk get traded away. Let the players develop rather then trade and over spend in free agency.

Tim Murray has done little to get this "rep". A quick review found only one legit NHL player he has drafted in the 6/7th rounds. Mark stone is a nice player. But if you are going to laud him for that what about first round busts like Cowan, Puempel and Noesen and O'Brien? All premium picks. All jabronis
- EugenesAxe

He was with a lot of teams before that as a scout

"Slurpee headache" hilarious

On another note... provorov>risto

He was with a lot of teams before that as a scout
- Maximum Signal

Not to hate on the guy, but he got into the business under his uncle Bryan Murray in Detroit, then followed Bryan and his other uncle around for a decade. His last job before joining Uncle Bryan in Ottawa in 2007 was as a scout with the NY Rangers from 2005-07. Infamous 1st round Ranger picks from this era were the mighty Alexei Cherepanov and Bob Sanguinetti. Both premium picks. Both bombs.

All I am saying is before you christen the guy the next Toe Blake, wait for a bigger sample size. The Sabres have some nice young pieces. But still finished in the bottom third with all their prime prospects on the roster and little in Rochester

Not to hate on the guy, but he got into the business under his uncle Bryan Murray in Detroit, then followed Bryan and his other uncle around for a decade. His last job before joining Uncle Bryan in Ottawa in 2007 was as a scout with the NY Rangers from 2005-07. Infamous 1st round Ranger picks from this era were the mighty Alexei Cherepanov and Bob Sanguinetti. Both premium picks. Both bombs.

All I am saying is before you christen the guy the next Toe Blake, wait for a bigger sample size. The Sabres have some nice young pieces. But still finished in the bottom third with all their prime prospects on the roster and little in Rochester
- EugenesAxe

Also got a ring in Anaheim . Has lots of respect amongst peers as Talent evaluator . Two Scouts I know well told me that. Just none from you so Be it . Still has a better resume than you I bet . Has done it all his life . Born into a hockey family.

Murray isn't focusing on bringing in Stamkos Garf.

He's focusing on a top LHD who can operate the PP. His 2nd concern IMO is Vesey. Stamkos isn't on the list.

12 premium picks in this upcoming draft? really? didn't realize late rd picks were
considered premium picks.

wasn't it only a few months ago you said "risto" will get a deal worth about 4mm like Maata (which you were mocked at accordingly). Maata has looked bad this year and even worse in the playoffs.

so what made you change your mind and now he is worth close to 6?

with all that murrency, ennis, franson, pysk, and florentino as trade bait he should be able to move up easily I agree. Then add stamkos, wow.

Will it be a disappointment if the sabres don't win 1 cup within the next 5 years?
- rinaldo

4 3rds is pretty premium guy. Anything in the top 3 rounds is pretty good. We have a tonne of trade chips. Franson, Gorges, Girgensons, Moulson, Ennis, Fasching, Pysyk, Bailey, Baptiste, Foligno, Ullmark, Petersen and many other prospects and picks.

Tim Murray has done little to get this "rep". A quick review found only one legit NHL player he has drafted in the 6/7th rounds. Mark stone is a nice player. But if you are going to laud him for that what about first round busts like Cowan, Puempel and Noesen and O'Brien? All premium picks. All jabronis
- EugenesAxe

You do realize he was a big factor in bringing the supposed best coach in the NHL to the actual AHL then eventually the NHL? You do realize he was a big factor in the Perry/Getzlaf draft for Anaheim as well right? He was also pretty instrumental in drafting yearly Norris candidate Erik Karlsson.

Lol do your research next time. He's worked for more than just the Sens.

You sir are the only jabroni in these parts.