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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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May 12 @ 7:22 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Giroux, WHL Finals, Flyers Alumni
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 12 @ 7:27 AM ET
Not surprised at all. Flyers need to find a way to take some of the load off of him.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

May 12 @ 7:45 AM ET
Wonder who will be next we hear about injury. Makes you wonder how the series could have gone if we had a healthy Giroux. Hope the summer allows him a healthy recovery
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 12 @ 7:52 AM ET
I love how all the idiots on here were calling for him to be traded and how he's not actually a superstar. Guy has done nothing but put it all on the line for this team every year, countless times putting the whole team on his back. Teams would kill to have a player like Giroux and if you can't see how good he actually is, especially at all of the little things that might go unoticed to the casual fan, I suggest you start watching a new sport.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 12 @ 8:15 AM ET
Not surprised at all. Flyers need to find a way to take some of the load off of him.
- MJL


I guess we'll see how well Hextall can balance patience with the kids and signing FAs to timely, frugal contracts.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 12 @ 8:16 AM ET
Well that explains it. Giroux looked like he was injured. Now we find out he was.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 12 @ 8:20 AM ET
Someone should tell Joe
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

May 12 @ 8:21 AM ET
I know players want to play but why if they are injured and ineffective?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 12 @ 8:23 AM ET
I know players want to play but why if they are injured and ineffective?
- vejim


It happens when your depth is Jordan weal
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 12 @ 8:30 AM ET
I know players want to play but why if they are injured and ineffective?
- vejim



Giroux in that state, is still better than who they have to replace him.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 12 @ 8:35 AM ET
I don't know how similar their situations are, but Jamie Benn had surgery on both hips last May and was back in time for training camp.

http://www.cbssports.com/...ond-hip-surgery-in-a-week

Benn is the fifth Stars player to have surgery on one or both of his hips in the last year. According to the Stars, the frequency of hip surgeries is no coincidence.

More from the Dallas Morning News:

It's part of a philosophical change the Stars are embracing, one they believe will give them healthier players in the long run. Benn has suffered from femoroacetabular impingement (FAI), or bone spurs that form on the head of the femur. The spurs irritate and can cut the labrum in the hip socket, and that can cause pain. Benn battled through the pain with shots, off days and grit, but the surgeries should help prevent that going forward.

“They are starting to figure out a correlation between FAI, sports hernias, groin pain and labral tears,” [head athletic trainer Dave] Zeis said. “There's no doubt we're concerned, and we're researching everything we can. I think you can attack it aggressively, or you can bury your head in the sand and say they are manageable, organizationally.

“The question is when do you intervene? We feel we have more information, and we feel we're going to learn even more going forward.”
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

May 12 @ 8:35 AM ET
I know players want to play but why if they are injured and ineffective?
- vejim


I don't understand when players do this in the regular season. Playoffs, most players are ailing from something.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 12 @ 8:40 AM ET
DAMN IT TO HELL WITH THE QUOTES NOT FREAKIN WERKIN!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 12 @ 8:43 AM ET
WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO ANNOUNCE SURGERIES?!!!
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 12 @ 8:43 AM ET
DAMN IT TO HELL WITH THE QUOTES NOT FREAKIN WERKIN!
- jak521


Ever think about having your picture taken with Ek?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 12 @ 8:44 AM ET
Happy for the Blues and their fans, now go Preds!!

And, go Lightning too!
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 12 @ 8:45 AM ET
Happy for the Blues and their fans, now go Preds!!

And, go Lightning too!

- BiggE


G'mornin', Boozer.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 12 @ 8:45 AM ET
Agreed, they need both a quality offensive LW and another good center to compliment Giroux and Coots before they can really become a contender.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 12 @ 8:46 AM ET
G'mornin', Boozer.
- tangent_man


Hey, I resemble that remark!
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 12 @ 8:48 AM ET
Hey, I resemble that remark!
- BiggE


Wouldn't be much of a nickname if you didn't.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 12 @ 8:52 AM ET
Wouldn't be much of a nickname if you didn't.
- tangent_man

Good point, ya sarcastic bastard!
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 12 @ 8:52 AM ET
I don't know how similar their situations are, but Jamie Benn had surgery on both hips last May and was back in time for training camp.

http://www.cbssports.com/...ond-hip-surgery-in-a-week

- Feanor

Its sounding that way...

What happens (at least what we kind of understand as of now) is that when you have this FAI (Femoral Acetabular Impingement) you are unable to have full motion of the hip. Where the head of the Femur meets the neck, there is usually a concavity, however with people who have an FAI, they tend to lack the usual curve, and instead have a bump that hits the socket of the joint (acetabulum) and causes a bunch of issues. The first and most common problem is discomfort and decreased range of motion. Labral tears are also very common.

The idea is that because of this mechanical error of the hip, it causes you to use other areas in the pelvic region to achieve the multi-directional changes needed in elite competition. That change/ over-exertion then leads to athletic pubalgia better known as a sports hernia. Basically, because of the lack of mobility in the hip, your core muscles, primarily those in the groin area, are over worked, and tear -usually the tendon area -and cause the hernia. This leads to other muscles being over used/tearing and the domino effect of a sports hernia is under way...

Sorry for the book, but hope this helps some people understand this foreign language.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

May 12 @ 8:52 AM ET
In knew he was "banged" up
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 12 @ 8:56 AM ET
Its sounding that way...

What happens (at least what we kind of understand as of now) is that when you have this FAI (Femoral Acetabular Impingement) you are unable to have full motion of the hip. Where the head of the Femur meets the neck, there is usually a concavity, however with people who have an FAI, they tend to lack the usual curve, and instead have a bump that hits the socket of the joint (acetabulum) and causes a bunch of issues. The first and most common problem is discomfort and decreased range of motion. Labral tears are also very common.

The idea is that because of this mechanical error of the hip, it causes you to use other areas in the pelvic region to achieve the multi-directional changes needed in elite competition. That change/ over-exertion then leads to athletic pubalgia better known as a sports hernia. Basically, because of the lack of mobility in the hip, your core muscles, primarily those in the groin area, are over worked, and tear -usually the tendon area -and cause the hernia. This leads to other muscles being over used/tearing and the domino effect of a sports hernia is under way...

Sorry for the book, but hope this helps some people understand this foreign language.

- jak521


Thank you. Compensation injuries, like a bum knee affecting a hip.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 12 @ 8:57 AM ET
Its sounding that way...

What happens (at least what we kind of understand as of now) is that when you have this FAI (Femoral Acetabular Impingement) you are unable to have full motion of the hip. Where the head of the Femur meets the neck, there is usually a concavity, however with people who have an FAI, they tend to lack the usual curve, and instead have a bump that hits the socket of the joint (acetabulum) and causes a bunch of issues. The first and most common problem is discomfort and decreased range of motion. Labral tears are also very common.

The idea is that because of this mechanical error of the hip, it causes you to use other areas in the pelvic region to achieve the multi-directional changes needed in elite competition. That change/ over-exertion then leads to athletic pubalgia better known as a sports hernia. Basically, because of the lack of mobility in the hip, your core muscles, primarily those in the groin area, are over worked, and tear -usually the tendon area -and cause the hernia. This leads to other muscles being over used/tearing and the domino effect of a sports hernia is under way...

Sorry for the book, but hope this helps some people understand this foreign language.

- jak521


That's a great explanation, thanks.
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