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Todd Cordell
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

Apr 28 @ 10:40 AM ET
Todd Cordell: Calgary Flames: It's Time To Move On From Lance Bouma
Razzdazzle1
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.17.2015

Apr 28 @ 11:06 AM ET

Lol glad you bloggers aren't managing the team. Last year you guys were loving Bouma and wanted to sign him at all costs. Now just 1 year later you're trying to run him off the team.


tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Apr 28 @ 11:13 AM ET
Couldn't agree more. Lance could be easily replace with a player for less than $1million. If they can find a team that will take him, they need to do it. There are couple other bad contracts that i'm sure BT would move if he could.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 28 @ 11:31 AM ET
Why is when you dis a player such as Bouma you only put up the charts that reinforce your comments? Why not put up hits per game and other intangibles that would give us a real look at what he contributes to the team. I'm sure we would all like that.
Not ready to right him off after an injurery pron season. Give him another year to see what he can do. Would much rather see them get rid of Raymond, Bolig or Stagan to open up space in the bottom 6
I do agree this is a concern but would hope BT will address it in other ways.
zipfel
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 04.24.2016

Apr 28 @ 11:41 AM ET
It was only a year or two ago where I was hearing things like "You don't win a cup unless you have a Bouma type player on your team" Now I hear he is a dumpster fire. Hard to argue that he isn't a dumpster fire give the performance he gave us last year.

I suspect that he only worked hard to get his 2.2 mill contract and is in now in coast mode. I hope he proves me wrong next season.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 28 @ 11:51 AM ET
What's Calgary going to do in the goalie situation?

I was hoping they would be interested in maybe a Flyers goalie.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Apr 28 @ 12:12 PM ET
What's Calgary going to do in the goalie situation?

I was hoping they would be interested in maybe a Flyers goalie.

- J35Bacher


They're gunna throw the Janitor in net as he is just as good as Hiller.
Zmloste
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 28 @ 12:16 PM ET
Jimmy Howard for bouma. We get cap relief, you get an average goalie. Better options out there for goalie, but you get rid of bouma
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Apr 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
Bouma's contract was bad from the start. But I'm not ready to just toss him away after one, injury riddled season. We all new that he was highly unlikely to put up those points again but he got signed to that contract anyway.

But he is a warrior; I don't question that. And yes, you need those types to win in the playoffs. It's important to think of who he was playing with that helped get him those points. And now Backlund is doing the same with Colborne. I hope we don't make the same mistake, especially since he's due for an even bigger raise than Bouma.

If a good deal comes along, then we trade him, because we could use the cap relief and he is replaceable. But, he is hardly our biggest problem at the moment. At least when he's not producing points, he does other things to boost the guys on the bench. Moving guys like Raymond, Smid and Bollig is far more important. And if we get a decent return for Wideman, that would be a great thing for the cap not to mention the room it would create on the blueline for a rookie; Nakladal, Wotherspoon etc.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 28 @ 1:11 PM ET
They're gunna throw the Janitor in net as he is just as good as Hiller.
- SRam19



I would flip Mason to Calgary. Just not sure what is a fair deal
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Apr 28 @ 1:24 PM ET
I would flip Mason to Calgary. Just not sure what is a fair deal
- J35Bacher

yea I doubt calgary want a underachieving goalie.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 28 @ 1:30 PM ET
yea I doubt calgary want a underachieving goalie.
- SRam19



Where did Vancouver's goaltending take them?
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Apr 28 @ 1:31 PM ET
Jimmy Howard for bouma. We get cap relief, you get an average goalie. Better options out there for goalie, but you get rid of bouma
- Zmloste

Uhh no. Maybe Wideman for Howard but I still think we have better options out there.


Bouma had a bad year, year before he had a monster year. Treliving said he had lots of interest at the TDL for Bouma. I for one think we give him the summer to heal & get off the right way next fall. The way he plays is going to shorten & reduce the $$$ he is going to achieve in his career. I would say Raymond, Wideman, Smid & then Engellend should be the priorities for moving out. Wont hurt us to keep Bouma another year. Only 1 more year after that anyway.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 28 @ 2:14 PM ET
I would flip Mason to Calgary. Just not sure what is a fair deal
- J35Bacher

How about Mason for Mason, that way the boys don't have to learn a new name!
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Apr 28 @ 2:29 PM ET
Where did Vancouver's goaltending take them?
- J35Bacher


Meh... We're not talking about Vancouver's goaltending, you're going to explain to me why Calgary would want to trade for the very inconsistent Steve Mason?
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Apr 28 @ 2:58 PM ET
Why is when you dis a player such as Bouma you only put up the charts that reinforce your comments? Why not put up hits per game and other intangibles that would give us a real look at what he contributes to the team. I'm sure we would all like that.
Not ready to right him off after an injurery pron season. Give him another year to see what he can do. Would much rather see them get rid of Raymond, Bolig or Stagan to open up space in the bottom 6
I do agree this is a concern but would hope BT will address it in other ways.

- K-man25


1. Because most people are highly subjective creatures who would rather deliver evidence that supports their narrative than do the hard work and strive to provide an objective perspective.

2. Because in a blog that has time and space constraints the statistics need to be prioritized in terms of importance (see 1. for how importance is usually defined) and I'm pretty sure hits/game generally doesn't fall very high on that list.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Apr 28 @ 3:21 PM ET
1. Because most people are highly subjective creatures who would rather deliver evidence that supports their narrative than do the hard work and strive to provide an objective perspective.

2. Because in a blog that has time and space constraints the statistics need to be prioritized in terms of importance (see 1. for how importance is usually defined) and I'm pretty sure hits/game generally doesn't fall very high on that list.

- RonPielep


Yeah but apparently Party Boy Lance can drink a lot of booze!!! Where does that come into play?!?!
jtommyt
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.02.2007

Apr 28 @ 3:58 PM ET
Todd wrote entire blogs cautioning against giving Bouma this contract... his underlying numbers have been bad for years and last year's success was solely due to an unsustainable shooting percentage and the benefit of playing with Backlund.

Todd hasn't changed his tune here at all... this is a consistent and long term message.
jtommyt
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.02.2007

Apr 28 @ 4:00 PM ET
1. Because most people are highly subjective creatures who would rather deliver evidence that supports their narrative than do the hard work and strive to provide an objective perspective.

2. Because in a blog that has time and space constraints the statistics need to be prioritized in terms of importance (see 1. for how importance is usually defined) and I'm pretty sure hits/game generally doesn't fall very high on that list.

- RonPielep


Also, hits and blocks don't correlate well to winning. In fact, teams (and players) with high hit counts and lots of shot blocks tend to be very poor possession teams.
jtommyt
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.02.2007

Apr 28 @ 4:01 PM ET
Meh... We're not talking about Vancouver's goaltending, you're going to explain to me why Calgary would want to trade for the very inconsistent Steve Mason?
- SRam19


He's still miles better than what we have... and potentially available at a good price.
jtommyt
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.02.2007

Apr 28 @ 4:03 PM ET
Jimmy Howard for bouma. We get cap relief, you get an average goalie. Better options out there for goalie, but you get rid of bouma
- Zmloste


I'd do that.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Apr 28 @ 4:08 PM ET
Todd wrote entire blogs cautioning against giving Bouma this contract... his underlying numbers have been bad for years and last year's success was solely due to an unsustainable shooting percentage and the benefit of playing with Backlund.

Todd hasn't changed his tune here at all... this is a consistent and long term message.

- jtommyt


Backlund was a real key for Bouma and this year Colborne was fortunate to play with him much of the time. IMO, they need to pay backlund when he comes up and not have all the cash tied up in players like Bouma....and possibly Colborne.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Apr 28 @ 5:01 PM ET
I'd do that.
- jtommyt

howard would be good. maybe they'd want wideman

so far I think
raymond/bouma/colborne/bollig should move. open up spots for poirier, and someone younger that can play that bouma/bollig roll....to be honest, a maddog like kassian that has hands that could score isn't a bad idea.

playoff time....a line with ferland and kassian on it can be a game changer against a big team that takes liberties with our smaller top line.

raymond just isn't cutting it. bouma, I think had an off year but jooris is becoming the heart player bouma was in previous years. Colborne is raymond 2.0 unless someone sleeps with his girlfriend and he can get a bit meaner next year. Bollig, we need that bigger player role, but someone with better hands would be good (hence kassian....although he is dumber).

TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Apr 28 @ 5:28 PM ET
He's still miles better than what we have... and potentially available at a good price.
- jtommyt

Miles better than nothing doesn't mean good. I'd rather stick with Ortio as #1 than grab Mason I think.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Apr 28 @ 5:51 PM ET
Miles better than nothing doesn't mean good. I'd rather stick with Ortio as #1 than grab Mason I think.
- TandA4Flames


We have all witnessed what mason is capable of doin in the west, and its not good.
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