Jared Crozier: Boudreau To Top Of Wishlist?; NCC-Lebreton Decision Today

First!

Praying for Melnyk to lose the bid and be forced/pressured to sell the team.

Today @ 8:34 AM ET
Praying for Melnyk to lose the bid and be forced/pressured to sell the team.


That's the spirit. Nothing like supporting your team and owner... No way should a Quebec-led bid win the redevelopment project that will affect the lives of Ottawan's for years to come.

I think Melnyck, with a downtown arena and a better income stream, would be fully able and willing to invest in the team and spend to the cap. He would be on a more equal footing with his Canadian NHL peers.

Go Rendez-vous Lebreton!

Melnyk won't be selling the Senators & I'll tell you the same thing I tell everyone else.

If not for Melnyk the Senators wouldn't be playing it Ottawa now. In 2003 the last time the Canadian dollar was in peril Melnyk stepped up to save the Senators when no 1 else would, no 1. If not for Melnyk the Senators would have been relocated to a US city.

If Menyk's bid isn't accepted it would be a huge injustice & the Senators won't be moving into the city regardless & the Senators will continue to have limited revenue streams playing in the middle of now where.

I don't like Melnyk but it's his team & he demands it turn a profit. I have no issues with that. Now if the Senators would stop making stupid GM & coaching mistakes, Melnyk leaves hockey ops to hockey people the Senators would be a far better team.

[quote=jaz258]
Ummm.... The evaluation should be about more than an NHL team... and who cares that DevCore is based in Gatineau? The money is Canadian... that's what matters

Devcor is going to win simply because they are better at everything then the Melnyck team. They have world class designers, world class planers and world class people putting their bid together.

teams only really chnage hands when there are new arenas built, this is the chance for the NHL to bring in a ton of money to stabilize the Ottawa franchise.

Melnyck is in a greta position to negotiate. He'll probably get $400+ million USD for the team, make $300 million USD and he can buy more horses.

One thing to watch out for. Bettman might want Devcor because they will pay $500 million for the team and that is what he wants in expansion fees. If he has Devcor step up and pay Melnyck $500 million, that will firmly set all NHL franchises value way above thier current value and all 29 other NHL owners will be ecstatic if that happens and will applaud (encourage) Melnyck to sell.

Huge 100 days for the Senators. New GM, new Coach, New Team, New Arena, New Ownership.

All that's missing is a playoff run.

(and to the anti-Quebec weirdo fans who think the team is secretly moving to Quebec City in a conspiracy - grow up)

the guy is right, without Melnyk stepping in when he did, this team would have relocated a long time ago..

i'd want him to get his asking price if he does decide to sell. $500Mill

[quote=jaz258]

why on earth would i ever support melnyk. the guy has nickeled and dimed this team into mediocrity. he makes it almost embarassing to be a sens fan. i have zero respect that man....both as an owner and as a person....yes i've met him, in barbados (i'm in the navy, we go there a lot) and he's a giant (frank)ing bumhole.

Today @ 8:34 AM ET
Praying for Melnyk to lose the bid and be forced/pressured to sell the team.


That's the spirit. Nothing like supporting your team and owner... No way should a Quebec-led bid win the redevelopment project that will affect the lives of Ottawan's for years to come.

I think Melnyck, with a downtown arena and a better income stream, would be fully able and willing to invest in the team and spend to the cap. He would be on a more equal footing with his Canadian NHL peers.

Go Rendez-vous Lebreton!

yeah, the business man who lives in barbados is way better than the business men who are right across the river.

the guy is right, without Melnyk stepping in when he did, this team would have relocated a long time ago..

i'd want him to get his asking price if he does decide to sell. $500Mill
- kaptaan

don't act like melnyk is some hero here.....he bought a team for pennies on the dollar based on the Canadian dollar being in the toilet......and he took that team and indebted them to the point where a good chunk of their revenue is going to pay debt that he's built up in his businesses that have nothing to do with hockey.

he's a crocked ass business man, a giant banana eater, and probably the worst owner in the NHL.

don't act like melnyk is some hero here.....he bought a team for pennies on the dollar based on the Canadian dollar being in the toilet......and he took that team and indebted them to the point where a good chunk of their revenue is going to pay debt that he's built up in his businesses that have nothing to do with hockey.

he's a crocked ass business man, a giant banana eater, and probably the worst owner in the NHL.
- sensarmy_11

apparantely the site auto changes c 0 c k sucker to banana eater

Ummm.... The evaluation should be about more than an NHL team... and who cares that DevCore is based in Gatineau? The money is Canadian... that's what matters
- riceroni

Ummm...Why should the NHL Areana not be the key part of the evaluation? Hockey defines Canada and most people are okay with that. The Devcore bid may have an office in Gatineau, but their money is from Montreal and Quebec City. As for planners and designers, the Melnyck bid has the same type of world class talent as Devcore. Look at both designs, and the Rendez-Vous Lebreton model just looks nicer.

If it was strictly a redevelopment bid with no arena then I say bring on the bidders, the more the merrier. However if the rink is the centrepiece, and it is for both proposals, then to not select the group which is being led by your city's NHL franchise's owner would be patently stupid. Other than the federal government, there is no other business that contributes more to the local economy than the Senators. Whether it is ancillary businesses, or direct investment in the community or charitable donations, the Senators have been a boon to Ottawa and that should be a major factor in the evaluation process.

Also, the DevCore bid hinges on whether they can get an NHL team. They have stated that they will buy the Senators. They don't have a team yet they want to build an arena? They are staking their bid on the possibility that they might be able to perhaps purchase the Senators? That's a terrible business model, especially when the guy that owns the team has already said he has no plans to sell the team in his lifetime.

don't act like melnyk is some hero here.....he bought a team for pennies on the dollar based on the Canadian dollar being in the toilet......and he took that team and indebted them to the point where a good chunk of their revenue is going to pay debt that he's built up in his businesses that have nothing to do with hockey.

he's a crocked ass business man, a giant banana eater, and probably the worst owner in the NHL.
- sensarmy_11

I'd be careful about making claims like that one...

And I do think that Melnyck is somewhat of a hero. He's the reason you're still watching NHL Hockey in Ottawa. You can whine and moan all-day that he doesn't spend enough or he talks too much or is too involved in the day-to-day. It still comes back to the fact that he saved NHL hockey in this city. So what if he bought the team at a discount? Sounds like a good business deal to me, and if I had the cash I would have done the same thing.

He is not the worst owner in the NHL. You just think that because you don't live in the other markets and you don't listen to their local sports radio. Some people don't like Darryl Katz at all, does that make him a bad owner? Well he's made some pretty poor decisions hiring management over the last ten years, and he has been a huge pain in the butt to the Edmonton city council while trying to get his new arena built.
So, each owner has his own personality, deal with it.

I'd be careful about making claims like that one...

And I do think that Melnyck is somewhat of a hero. He's the reason you're still watching NHL Hockey in Ottawa. You can whine and moan all-day that he doesn't spend enough or he talks too much or is too involved in the day-to-day. It still comes back to the fact that he saved NHL hockey in this city. So what if he bought the team at a discount? Sounds like a good business deal to me, and if I had the cash I would have done the same thing.

He is not the worst owner in the NHL. You just think that because you don't live in the other markets and you don't listen to their local sports radio. Some people don't like Darryl Katz at all, does that make him a bad owner? Well he's made some pretty poor decisions hiring management over the last ten years, and he has been a huge pain in the butt to the Edmonton city council while trying to get his new arena built.
So, each owner has his own personality, deal with it.
- jaz258

He's been investigated by the OSC on multiple occasions....hardly making outlandish claims here.

as for Katz......he's spent money to try and improve his team. he hasn't basically robbed fans blind, signed lucrative television/radio deals, while claiming the whole time that he's too poor to ice a competitive team.

I'd be careful about making claims like that one...

And I do think that Melnyck is somewhat of a hero. He's the reason you're still watching NHL Hockey in Ottawa. You can whine and moan all-day that he doesn't spend enough or he talks too much or is too involved in the day-to-day. It still comes back to the fact that he saved NHL hockey in this city. So what if he bought the team at a discount? Sounds like a good business deal to me, and if I had the cash I would have done the same thing.

He is not the worst owner in the NHL. You just think that because you don't live in the other markets and you don't listen to their local sports radio. Some people don't like Darryl Katz at all, does that make him a bad owner? Well he's made some pretty poor decisions hiring management over the last ten years, and he has been a huge pain in the butt to the Edmonton city council while trying to get his new arena built.
So, each owner has his own personality, deal with it.
- jaz258

Are you Eugene Melnyk?

yeah, the business man who lives in barbados is way better than the business men who are right across the river.

Yeah, that is a pretty racist remark! Who cares where they come from as long as they have the best bid and $$$! $$$ plays a big part on this as Melnyk keeps acting like he's broke (might be!) and crying to everyone who will listen that he has no money if he doesn't get a casino, or if he doesn't get this and that...

Maybe (and that's a big maybe cause there could have been someone else!) he did save the Sens way back then but like every business works, it's the "what have you done for me lately"?

...and Melnyk has done jack sh!t for a long time, crying he's poor, being WAY to involved publicly in hockey matters like: crying for money, the CSI investigation on Karlsson's injury, being THE joke owner in the entire NHL, embarrassing Cameron publicly 2 weeks before the end of the season, not to mention all his personal issues from his pharma company problems & lawsuits, divorce, etc...

Talking about Karlsson, I'm afraid the way the team is forced on that internal budget, the best defenseman in the world will want to bolt to a team that is not afraid to spend the $$$ to go for it!

If he's so poor like he cries about, then sell the team and spend your remaining days in Barbados...that way, we can have an owner(s) that actually has money and isn't crying on their knees for any handouts they can get!

EDIT: And it is my right to complain and want change as I've been a season ticket holder for over 10 years and it's getting harder and harder to want to renew every year...if Karlsson goes, so do I and I bet lots of other STH!

Yeah, that is a pretty racist remark! Who cares where they come from as long as they have the best bid and $$$! $$$ plays a big part on this as Melnyk keeps acting like he's broke (might be!) and crying to everyone who will listen that he has no money if he doesn't get a casino, or if he doesn't get this and that...

Maybe (and that's a big maybe cause there could have been someone else!) he did save the Sens way back then but like every business works, it's the "what have you done for me lately"?

...and Melnyk has done jack sh!t for a long time, crying he's poor, being WAY to involved publicly in hockey matters like: crying for money, the CSI investigation on Karlsson's injury, being THE joke owner in the entire NHL, embarrassing Cameron publicly 2 weeks before the end of the season, not to mention all his personal issues from his pharma company problems & lawsuits, divorce, etc...

Talking about Karlsson, I'm afraid the way the team is forced on that internal budget, the best defenseman in the world will want to bolt to a team that is not afraid to spend the $$$ to go for it!

If he's so poor like he cries about, then sell the team and spend your remaining days in Barbados...that way, we can have an owner(s) that actually has money and isn't crying on their knees for any handouts they can get!

EDIT: And it is my right to complain and want change as I've been a season ticket holder for over 10 years and it's getting harder and harder to want to renew every year...if Karlsson goes, so do I and I bet lots of other STH!
- Raven33

I was a 10 year man myself and it's over for me... I feel your pain bro

Pass on Boudreau. He's been given stacked teams and can't do much with them. Still not sure why people think he's a great coach.

The Lebreton stuff would be interesting. Either way the big goes, it's only a first step. Still lots of garbage to sort through. Sens will likely be moving downtown either way. Personally, I don't really care which side wins. I think I like the French dudes bid a little more, but also think some of it is a little unrealistic or won't come to full fruition until years and years down the road. The Melnyk's bid is a little more simplistic and incorporates events already existing. The NHL arena I'm sure will be the first thing to be built I'm sure with either bid.

I'd like to see Melnyk move on as well, but do feel he is in a better shape financially than he was a couple of seasons ago. I can handle the slight money pinching, but it's hard to handle his mouth going off and making decisions that should be left to the GM and coach. He doesn't seem to trust the guys below him to do their jobs. That's what a good business owner does. Melnyk wants to control everything, which would be fine if he was a hockey man, but he is just a hockey fan unaware of the other 29 teams in the NHL.

I was a 10 year man myself and it's over for me... I feel your pain bro
- riceroni

I cancelled my tickets after the 2nd lockout. I've scored tickets for free each year which tie me over, but their is no way I am going to pay for tickets in the foreseeable future. Tired of contributing money to millionaires and billionaires who don't really give a crap about the fans. Plenty of other ways to support the team. Hardly think a few hundred, even thousand of my dollars will help this team get out of the "budget basement".

I was a 10 year man myself and it's over for me... I feel your pain bro
- riceroni

i had them for 7 and then moved to Halifax. I absolutely won't get them when i get back though, unless there is a new owner.

yeah, the business man who lives in barbados is way better than the business men who are right across the river.
- sensarmy_11

Exactly... not to mention the same business man who loves Toronto and goes on Toronto radio any chance he gets...

If Devcore gets the bid, it will only be a matter of time before they get the team. The team won't be leaving, it will be the best thing for this franchise.

Spinning our tires with Melnyk at the helm.

Devcor is going to win simply because they are better at everything then the Melnyck team. They have world class designers, world class planers and world class people putting their bid together.
- tuna99

What an assanine comment -- like most of your posts. By this logic I guess you believe Melnyk has sub-par amateur designers, playground planners and used second rate people to throw a bid together -- just for sh*ts and giggles. Just because you don't like Melnyk, if possible you might consider trying not to sound stupid when bashing him.

What an assanine comment -- like most of your posts. By this logic I guess you believe Melnyk has sub-par amateur designers, playground planners and used second rate people to throw a bid together -- just for sh*ts and giggles. Just because you don't like Melnyk, if possible you might consider trying not to sound stupid when bashing him.

- legs37

Melnyck put up an NHL arena and then some condos around it to make it look like a 'development'

Melnyck is so arrogant he lashed out at people who thought they could offer a better product at Lebreton then he could, he is so arrogant he shyte talked Alfie out the door when he was to cheap to pay the franchises greatest asset, he treated a long time friend like crap the way Cameron was thrown under the bus, he sued a former player.

The thing I hate most about Melnyck is when he comes to town and wants us to pat him on the back for being the owner, for losing so much money, for doing so much in the community, for giving to charity. I want an owner who comes to town and pats the fans on the back for supporting the team, not coming to town and saying it's not enough and I want more credit.

But I guess I have a lower tolerance for BS and arrogance then you do.

Tough call - Devcor's plan looks better but I'd hate to see the Sens stay in Kanata for years to come simply because they won't play in someone else's arena.