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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 21 @ 2:18 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: Penguins And Flyers Set For First Matchup in 2015-16 On National Hug Day Penguins And Flyers Set For First Matchup in 2015-16 On National Hug Day
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jan 21 @ 2:29 PM ET
management doing the whole sprong ordeal all over again with pouliot keepingf him here but not playing him... great.... why even bring the kid up. ruin his confidence again? '

#fire sullivan?
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jan 21 @ 2:39 PM ET
Poulliot for Scuderi !
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 21 @ 3:06 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: Penguins And Flyers Set For First Matchup in 2015-16 On National Hug Day
Penguins And Flyers Set For First Matchup in 2015-16 On National Hug Day

- Ryan_Wilson





Penguin Flyer awkward hug time!
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jan 21 @ 3:26 PM ET
Filthy has a putrid defense and good goaltending so I expect ~40 SOG and 2 goals or fewer. Hopefully it will be enough to win.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 21 @ 3:42 PM ET
Did you see somewhere already that Pouliot isn't playing tonight? I didnt read that anywhere...
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
Hey Ryan, did you know that at even strength between 2011 and 2015 Geno has all of three assists against Sean Couturier? I don't think Coots' ability shut down Malkin is a myth...

Malkin does control the possetion metrics with a 56% rating, but you gotta remember Coots is almost always starting in his own end #context
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jan 21 @ 4:01 PM ET
Hey Ryan, did you know that at even strength between 2011 and 2015 Geno has all of three assists against Sean Couturier? I don't think Coots' ability shut down Malkin is a myth...

Malkin does control the possetion metrics with a 56% rating, but you gotta remember Coots is almost always starting in his own end #context

- Victoro311


Penguins and Malkin scored a ton in the 2012 series. Couturier didn't shut down anything. Fleury melting down and stupidity were the self-inflicted reasons the Pens got embarrassed. Couturier had nothing to do with that. NJD crushed Filthy the very next series because their goalie could stop beach balls and they didn't take a bunch of penalties.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 21 @ 4:04 PM ET
Penguins and Malkin scored a ton in the 2012 series. Couturier didn't shut down anything. Fleury melting down and stupidity were the self-inflicted reasons the Pens got embarrassed. Couturier had nothing to do with that. NJD crushed Filthy the very next series because their goalie could stop beach balls and they didn't take a bunch of penalties.
- jfkst1

So are we going to discount four regular seasons at even strength because of one high scoring playoff series? Seems silly to me

Edit: three seasons
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 21 @ 4:06 PM ET
Penguins and Malkin scored a ton in the 2012 series. Couturier didn't shut down anything. Fleury melting down and stupidity were the self-inflicted reasons the Pens got embarrassed. Couturier had nothing to do with that. NJD crushed Filthy the very next series because their goalie could stop beach balls and they didn't take a bunch of penalties.


the devils skated and checked the flyers into oblivion after game 1. they had no answer. that's why they won.

nevermind what couturier did in a playoff series 3 years ago. he's really had a great stretch of play and is becoming the 2nd C they desperately need. fortunate for the pens he's out.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jan 21 @ 4:21 PM ET
the devils skated and checked the flyers into oblivion after game 1. they had no answer. that's why they won.

nevermind what couturier did in a playoff series 3 years ago. he's really had a great stretch of play and is becoming the 2nd C they desperately need. fortunate for the pens he's out.

- hammarby31


I think Couturier is a good player that is plenty capable of matching up against top centers. However, the prevailing opinion that Malkin was/is shutdown by him is completely untrue.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 21 @ 4:23 PM ET
I think Couturier is a good player that is plenty capable of matching up against top centers. However, the prevailing opinion that Malkin was/is shutdown by him is completely untrue.
- jfkst1

Three assists in about 12 games during even strength. Is that not at least partially shut down?
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jan 21 @ 4:30 PM ET
Three assists in about 12 games during even strength. Is that not at least partially shut down?
- Victoro311


No. It's just randomness. I'll bet Malkin's relative numbers against Kopitar, Toews, J Staal, etc. aren't optimal either. Malkin had 8 points in 6 games in the playoff series when this narrative inexplicably started.
magmoo
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Garf is expendabilittle., HI
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jan 21 @ 4:41 PM ET
Go Pens! Please knock the habs out of the final wild card position.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jan 21 @ 5:06 PM ET
I hate the Flyers.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 21 @ 5:12 PM ET
No. It's just randomness. I'll bet Malkin's relative numbers against Kopitar, Toews, J Staal, etc. aren't optimal either. Malkin had 8 points in 6 games in the playoff series when this narrative inexplicably started.
- jfkst1


I think it's a bit of both. If you're going to claim Malkin was "shut down", the guy shouldn't have 8pts in 6 games. Couturiererierier is a nice defensive player. I'm not taking that away from him. I think he's over-rated but he seems to be having a fairly nice season so far.

What drove me nuts was our dumb ass coach not taking advantage of the line matchups at the home games.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 21 @ 5:15 PM ET
I hate the Flyers.
- Grinder47


I don't agree with you much, but I sure as hell agree with that. Flyers, Isis, Iran, Bin Laden....pretty much all the same to me.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jan 21 @ 5:42 PM ET
All I know is, Couturier has utterly frustrated Malkin for the past 3 seasons, and I don't need statistics to know it.
thickman1178
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.21.2013

Jan 21 @ 6:10 PM ET
Hey Ryan, did you know that at even strength between 2011 and 2015 Geno has all of three assists against Sean Couturier? I don't think Coots' ability shut down Malkin is a myth...

Malkin does control the possetion metrics with a 56% rating, but you gotta remember Coots is almost always starting in his own end #context

- Victoro311



Yeah the first thing I thought when I read that was that shutdown and possession aren't the same thing. Geno can hold the puck all he wants but if he isn't getting shots off or providing tangible offense, I would still say Couturier was shutting him down.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jan 21 @ 6:28 PM ET
Yeah the first thing I thought when I read that was that shutdown and possession aren't the same thing. Geno can hold the puck all he wants but if he isn't getting shots off or providing tangible offense, I would still say Couturier was shutting him down.
- thickman1178


And it's not like Couturier's job is to push offense against Malkin. His job is to smother him and keep him off the scoresheet. Getting outshot is not typically the concern with a shutdown guy on the ice, keeping the puck out of the net is.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 21 @ 6:30 PM ET
Yeah the first thing I thought when I read that was that shutdown and possession aren't the same thing. Geno can hold the puck all he wants but if he isn't getting shots off or providing tangible offense, I would still say Couturier was shutting him down.
- thickman1178

I crunched the numbers and Geno's average persona shot attempts per 60 over the last three years (Couturier's career) at even strength is 9.something. His shot attempts per 60 with Cooter on the ice is 5.something. That's pretty significant.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 21 @ 6:37 PM ET
Ok people, let's contact the Myth Busters on this 1!

Courtier is a Geno shutdown man or not?

Confirmed
Plausible
Or Busted?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 21 @ 6:40 PM ET
Ok people, let's contact the Myth Busters on this 1!

Courtier is a Geno shutdown man or not?

Confirmed
Plausible
Or Busted?

- Aussiepenguin


i dont think coots was as good in that series as people like to legendarily build up. however, he has basically lived up to the billing in the games since. not to mention the mental frustration and bad penalties that geno takes as a result makes it all the more apparent.

coots is a damn good player. i watch a lot of flyers games. he is starting to find a little offensive touch. he is very similar to an asset akin to that of our long lost buddy jordan staal.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 21 @ 6:45 PM ET
Pouliot officially scratched...YMAD9 officially sad.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 21 @ 6:45 PM ET
i dont think coots was as good in that series as people like to legendarily build up. however, he has basically lived up to the billing in the games since. not to mention the mental frustration and bad penalties that geno takes as a result makes it all the more apparent.

coots is a damn good player. i watch a lot of flyers games. he is starting to find a little offensive touch. he is very similar to an asset akin to that of our long lost buddy jordan staal.

- stayinthefnnet


I'll take that as "CONFIRMED"!
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