Bill Meltzer: Wrapup: Flyers Skid Continues in 4-1 Loss to Oilers

Thanks Bill. Your blogs allow those of us who are unable to catch them for every game to get a feel for what happened.

It's ass ugly the last few years. Sigh.

Thanks Bill. Your blogs allow those of us who are unable to catch them for every game to get a feel for what happened.

It's ass ugly the last few years. Sigh.
- flyer_nutter

This one was real, real ugly. If Neuvirth hadn't played out of his mind -- even better than in his two shutouts, as a matter of fact -- this could have been anywhere from 7-2 to 10-2 even figuring that the Oilers would not have had an empty netter late.

time to trade Voracek, and Giroux

This one was real, real ugly. If Neuvirth hadn't played out of his mind -- even better than in his two shutouts, as a matter of fact -- this could have been anywhere from 7-2 to 10-2 even figuring that the Oilers would not have had an empty netter late.
- bmeltzer

Hakstol's hands are really tied. I hope we can deal some vets at the TDL for talent for the future.

time to trade Voracek, and Giroux
- Winning

lol no

Simmonds and a 2nd for Fowler

I'm starting to worry that Hakstool isn't going to win the Jack Adams.

yea i'm gonna look into getting hockey streams, this team is the same old poop show. It's a real shame, they've had the luxury of two amnesty buyouts and yet still carry an enormous cap while sucking... amazingly stupid. I saw this coming and it's going to stay this way for a very long time. These prospects aren't going to save us if the guys upfront, who can't carry this team now, are too old to do it 5-6 years by the time these kids are ready.

These guys are just clueless. Listening to Ryan White postgame saying that they made some progress last night was just pathetic .

Unless he meant progress towards a top 5 pick.

This one was real, real ugly. If Neuvirth hadn't played out of his mind -- even better than in his two shutouts, as a matter of fact -- this could have been anywhere from 7-2 to 10-2 even figuring that the Oilers would not have had an empty netter late.
- bmeltzer

It could have been 7-0 after the 1st. JFC, an ECHL team wouldn't have done any worse.

3 of 4 Philly teams may get the #1....someone put a hex on Philly

I knew coming into this season it was going to be a tough one. The defense can't get the puck, when the do they turn it over. The fowards are already out of the zone before the puck is. What happened to the center swinging back for transisition? Voracek looks aweful. Even his passes are weak. He turned the puck over at the red or blue line many times last night. I think the best options the flyers have is to trade tradeabale players that will help other teams. Streit will help someone. They may have to eat a little salary. Read is tradable as is Schenn. I think Luke Schenn is quietly having a decent season. Maybe even Simmonds. If we do that even eating half the salary of streit we will gain about $17 in cap space.

lol no
- Nucker101

when a team has been this bad this long, all things need to be considered.

3 of 4 Philly teams may get the #1....someone put a hex on Philly
- vejim

2 of the three will be busts the other one all star caliber but not an mvp

Almost wish the flyers and devils where better trading partners as we could take on vinny in return for something nice but with the rivalry and what not neither team will be helping each other out lol.

Almost wish the flyers and devils where better trading partners as we could take on vinny in return for something nice but with the rivalry and what not neither team will be helping each other out lol.
- blizzzard

oh come on we both stink, let's make this rivalry matter again!

Although not the sole reason for the loss, I think the Brandon Manning as a regular experiment has come to an end. As a #7/call-up, fine. As a regular, I think we've come to the end of that road.

That was something, wasn't it?

Although not the sole reason for the loss, I think the Brandon Manning as a regular experiment has come to an end. As a #7/call-up, fine. As a regular, I think we've come to the end of that road.
- jmatchett383

Agreed. If Medvedev is injured, put him on IR and give a Ghost a look

That was something, wasn't it?
- Jsaquella

If by something you mean a huge steaming pile of monkey dung, then yeah, it was something.

Almost wish the flyers and devils where better trading partners as we could take on vinny in return for something nice but with the rivalry and what not neither team will be helping each other out lol.
- blizzzard

Vinny and Cousins for Clowe and Severson

It's really just sad to watch anymore. If the team stinks because of personnel that's fine, but at least play like you give a damn. They seemingly go through the motions for 2 of the 3 periods, if any of them. Their puck retrieval in the offensive zone is pathetic, they run around in the defensive zone like chickens with their heads cut off and they turn the puck over too much in the neutral zone. What the hell has happened to the power play?

Agreed. If Medvedev is injured, put him on IR and give a Ghost a look
- BiggE

Hell, I'd just flat-out waive him at this point. I know he's young and has a chance to improve, etc. but at the present moment, he is in no way ready to hold down a top-6 spot. I'd swap him with Hagg or Ghost right now, at least mix it up.

Edit: Although not a dirty play, his career highlight as an NHL player may be significantly injuring Connor McDavid.

Although not the sole reason for the loss, I think the Brandon Manning as a regular experiment has come to an end. As a #7/call-up, fine. As a regular, I think we've come to the end of that road.
- jmatchett383

I was in pain watching this game