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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 23 @ 9:08 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Phantoms, Prospects, Alumni, Biosteel Camp and More
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 23 @ 9:33 AM ET
Welp, ya can tell it's August. The only thing I'm hearing around here is absolutely nothing!
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Aug 23 @ 10:10 AM ET
At least I am hearing who may be in Reading.That looks to be a 60-80% roster rebuild......

Biggeee you probably hear the sound of the ocean and seagulls.... thats a plus!
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Aug 23 @ 10:20 AM ET


In a world where all I hear about is sam Bradford knee it's nice to at least have prospect updates to look forward to.

Where does vorobyov (think I botched that) fit into the Russian lineup ? I know he was a pick that could yield high reward with little risk.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 23 @ 10:24 AM ET
At least I am hearing who may be in Reading.That looks to be a 60-80% roster rebuild......

Biggeee you probably hear the sound of the ocean and seagulls.... thats a plus!

- Steelmanpa


For sure!!

Later on it will be the sounds of guitars and vocals as my trio is part of an all day concert at Proud Mary's Sports Bar & Grill in AC!!

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 23 @ 10:25 AM ET
In a world where all I hear about is sam Bradford knee it's nice to at least have prospect updates to look forward to.

Where does vorobyov (think I botched that) fit into the Russian lineup ? I know he was a pick that could yield high reward with little risk.

- Tfaehner


Better Bradford's knees than Brady's balls.

just sayin.....

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Aug 23 @ 10:44 AM ET
In a world where all I hear about is sam Bradford knee it's nice to at least have prospect updates to look forward to.

Where does vorobyov (think I botched that) fit into the Russian lineup ? I know he was a pick that could yield high reward with little risk.

- Tfaehner


13-3 with a good knee
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 23 @ 12:13 PM ET
If an NHL expansion occurred right now, who would you keep?
In 2000 the rules were every NHL team was allowed to protect one goaltender, five defensemen, and nine forwards or two goaltenders, three defensemen, and seven forwards.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Aug 23 @ 12:20 PM ET
Love Dan kordic

Gut tells me a d prospect will be dealt
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Aug 23 @ 12:20 PM ET
Love Dan kordic

Gut tells me a d prospect will be dealt
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
If an NHL expansion occurred right now, who would you keep?
In 2000 the rules were every NHL team was allowed to protect one goaltender, five defensemen, and nine forwards or two goaltenders, three defensemen, and seven forwards.

- coffee junkie


Assuming prospects and pro rookies will be exempt:
G-Mason
D-Del Zotto
D- Gostisbehere
D- Hagg
D- Streit
D- Medvedev (if he's exempt, then Gudas)
F-Giroux
F-Voracek
F-Couturier
F-Simmonds
F-B. Schenn
F-Laughton
F-Raffl
F-Cousins
F-Read

Also, if any team were to select Vinny, Umberger or AMac, that GM gets a case of 18 year old Macallan...just sayin......
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 23 @ 1:30 PM ET
Assuming prospects and pro rookies will be exempt:
G-Mason
D-Del Zotto
D- Gostisbehere
D- Hagg
D- Streit
D- Medvedev (if he's exempt, then Gudas)
F-Giroux
F-Voracek
F-Couturier
F-Simmonds
F-B. Schenn
F-Laughton
F-Raffl
F-Cousins
F-Read

Also, if any team were to select Vinny, Umberger or AMac, that GM gets a case of 18 year old Macallan...just sayin......

- BiggE

How does Vinny's NMC play into that scenario? Are the Flyers forced to protect him because of that NMC or do they have to get him to agree to waive it in order to leave him unprotected?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 23 @ 1:52 PM ET
How does Vinny's NMC play into that scenario? Are the Flyers forced to protect him because of that NMC or do they have to get him to agree to waive it in order to leave him unprotected?
- five4fighting10


Beats me, I'm just hoping they slip some heroin into his luggage next time the team goes through customs
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 23 @ 2:02 PM ET
Eagles looking good in the preseason... just don't give the rookie RB the ball
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 23 @ 2:02 PM ET
rumors are that streit and schenn are gone at the TDL and at least schenn is guaranteed to be gone
MatveiDmitrii
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 01.16.2015

Aug 23 @ 2:36 PM ET
I buy that. Streit to a contender and Schenn to whomever for whatever.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 23 @ 2:40 PM ET
I buy that. Streit to a contender and Schenn to whomever for whatever.
- MatveiDmitrii


You buy the possibility of it, or that there is rumors to such? It's August, I seriously doubt that any rumors discussing the teams plans for the TDL, which is 7 months away, are legitimate.
MatveiDmitrii
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 01.16.2015

Aug 23 @ 2:50 PM ET
Possibility. But I do think both will definitely happen. Schenn, a free agent next off season, should fetch something. Obviously Streit doesn't fit into the Flyers' long term plans, so shop him to a contending team similar to the Timonen deal.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
Possibility. But I do think both will definitely happen. Schenn, a free agent next off season, should fetch something. Obviously Streit doesn't fit into the Flyers' long term plans, so shop him to a contending team similar to the Timonen deal.
- MatveiDmitrii


What if the Flyers are in a playoff spot at the deadline, still think both will definitely happen?
MatveiDmitrii
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 01.16.2015

Aug 23 @ 3:00 PM ET
What if the Flyers are in a playoff spot at the deadline, still think both will definitely happen?
- MJL


Schenn yes. Streit you can make an argument both ways.

Streit is one of your better defensemen so he's critical for a playoff push. However if you're under the mindset that just getting to the playoffs isn't enough and you are trying to build to be a threat in the no too distant future, Streit could still be dealt for someone/something to help with that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
Schenn yes. Streit you can make an argument both ways.

Streit is one of your better defensemen so he's critical for a playoff push. However if you're under the mindset that just getting to the playoffs isn't enough and you are trying to build to be a threat in the no too distant future, Streit could still be dealt for someone/something to help with that.

- MatveiDmitrii



Yea, Hextall could say the hell with it, and make the deals anyway, but how is that guaranteed to happen? How would the rest of the players feel about that? Players only have so many years to play, they want their shot when they get one.
MatveiDmitrii
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 01.16.2015

Aug 23 @ 3:15 PM ET
Yea, Hextall could say the hell with it, and make the deals anyway, but how is that guaranteed to happen? How would the rest of the players feel about that? Players only have so many years to play, they want their shot when they get one.
- MJL


If you can get something for Schenn, wouldn't you rather than let him walk next year for nothing?

Streit has some value I'm sure to some team who use a vet to make a run at the Cup.

I don't think Hextall would trade them just for the sake of doing so. It would all be for the betterment of the team.

I'm also sure the guys in the locker room respect and get along with both Schenn and Streit. But they also realize this is a business too. Hextall wouldn't make a trade unless he felt it was making this team better.

And you're right ,there are no guarantees, but I gotta figure both these guys, especially Schenn, won't be on the roster in 2016-17.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Aug 23 @ 3:17 PM ET
Ehroff to the Kings one year 1.5 mil

Damn salaries skyrocketing
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 23 @ 3:28 PM ET
Ehroff to the Kings one year 1.5 mil

Damn salaries skyrocketing

- Just5

that is kind of surprising really
pretty nice deal for LA
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 23 @ 3:34 PM ET
If you can get something for Schenn, wouldn't you rather than let him walk next year for nothing?

Streit has some value I'm sure to some team who use a vet to make a run at the Cup.

I don't think Hextall would trade them just for the sake of doing so. It would all be for the betterment of the team.

I'm also sure the guys in the locker room respect and get along with both Schenn and Streit. But they also realize this is a business too. Hextall wouldn't make a trade unless he felt it was making this team better.

And you're right ,there are no guarantees, but I gotta figure both these guys, especially Schenn, won't be on the roster in 2016-17.

- MatveiDmitrii


I think this misses the point. The premise I offered was if the team is in a playoff spot, is a trade of Schenn and Streit still definitely going to happen? Of course any trade is for the betterment of the team, but it certainly wouldn't be for the betterment of the team for that current season, while the team is in a playoff spot.
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