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Tim Chiasson
Location: Halifax
Joined: 07.12.2013

Jul 5 @ 7:47 PM ET
Tim Chiasson: Joel Ward Is A Good Depth Signing, But He's No Savior Thoughts on Joel Ward, a few days late.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 5 @ 8:17 PM ET
Tim Chiasson: Joel Ward Is A Good Depth Signing, But He's No Savior
Thoughts on Joel Ward, a few days late.

- Tim Chiasson

Uno! Suck it Tommy!!!
cdjaakkola
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 5 @ 8:23 PM ET


Phaneuf
Tim Chiasson
Location: Halifax
Joined: 07.12.2013

Jul 5 @ 8:30 PM ET
Uno! Suck it Tommy!!!
- lumlums


Is that 39's real name?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 5 @ 8:48 PM ET
Same old Sharks yawn
SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 9:21 PM ET
Uno! Suck it Tommy!!!
- lumlums

SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 9:21 PM ET
Is that 39's real name?
- Tim Chiasson

Yep.
SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 9:24 PM ET
Tim Chiasson: Joel Ward Is A Good Depth Signing, But He's No Savior
Thoughts on Joel Ward, a few days late.

- Tim Chiasson

Good blog Tim........you're pretty much spot on with Ward.
Tim Chiasson
Location: Halifax
Joined: 07.12.2013

Jul 5 @ 9:25 PM ET
Yep.
- SJSharks39


Thomas it is.
Tim Chiasson
Location: Halifax
Joined: 07.12.2013

Jul 5 @ 9:25 PM ET
Good blog Tim........you're pretty much spot on with Ward.
- SJSharks39


Thank you, Thomas.
SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 9:26 PM ET
Phaneuf
- cdjaakkola

You post this everywhere.....it means nothing to me. You've made Phaneuf unspecial.
SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM ET
Thank you, Thomas.
- Tim Chiasson

Not Thomas.....

SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 9:32 PM ET
Same old Sharks yawn
- Just5

SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 9:34 PM ET
Uno! Suck it Tommy!!!
- lumlums

You enjoying Davis bro?
SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 9:38 PM ET
Thank you, Thomas.
- Tim Chiasson

Thomas isn't my name, i'm not a Thomas.

Whats up with the late blog? You've done this a few times dropping evening blogs. I'd imagine just a busy schedule huh?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 5 @ 9:42 PM ET
Not Thomas.....
- SJSharks39

Sure thing Thomas.

And yes, Davis was great. Back in Edmonton until the end of the month though...
Sharks_12
San Jose Sharks
Location: *Not Getting The Bit* Regina, SK
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jul 5 @ 9:58 PM ET
Tim, you agree that we are probably done with outside moves. Also let's assume that Pavelski stays as Thornton's RW and that DeBoer will prefer to play wingers based on their handedness. That would leave Wingels, Ward and Karlsson as our RW options. If those are your only options, who is the best fit on the 2nd (Couture), 3rd (Tierney) and 4th (Smith) lines?
SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 10:01 PM ET
Sure thing Thomas.

And yes, Davis was great. Back in Edmonton until the end of the month though...

- lumlums

You son of a _____ !!!!!!

You still going to the Manchester U vs Barcelona game?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:07 PM ET
You son of a _____ !!!!!!

You still going to the Manchester U vs Barcelona game?

- SJSharks39

Sadly no, I don't come down until the 29th.
SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 10:18 PM ET
Sadly no, I don't come down until the 29th.
- lumlums

Well always got the earthquakes games. The Cali Clasico is Aug.28th
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:23 PM ET
Well always got the earthquakes games. The Cali Clasico is Aug.28th
- SJSharks39

Nice! It sounds like folks in my new lab go to games, so I'll hop on board
Tim Chiasson
Location: Halifax
Joined: 07.12.2013

Jul 5 @ 10:29 PM ET
Tim, you agree that we are probably done with outside moves. Also let's assume that Pavelski stays as Thornton's RW and that DeBoer will prefer to play wingers based on their handedness. That would leave Wingels, Ward and Karlsson as our RW options. If those are your only options, who is the best fit on the 2nd (Couture), 3rd (Tierney) and 4th (Smith) lines?
- Sharks_12


My honest opinion is that I think that Wingels needs to be traded and a flier taken on Alex Semin for a few million this year.

Outside of Thornton, Pavelski and Couture, the Sharks have no legitimate top six players. They have fill ins. Karlsson was a fill in with the Joe's and Marleau needs to be sheltered at this point - which, playing with the Joe's, would more than do the trick for max production from him.

Hertl is right there, he's an exceptional third line player and a marginal second statistically, but I think if he was given the chance this year he'd prove valuable as a top six player. He is very good with possession and that's going to help Couture. I think a combination of Marleau-Thornton-Pavelski and Hertl-Couture-X is how DeBoer has to go. The X, unfortunately, has to be Melker Karlsson. He's not fit for the top six, but I think Hertl has the swagger to help keep Karlsson afloat, and I have the hope that Couture will stop underperforming in every facet other than points.

It's not ideal, but the Sharks really have no other option. Overcasting a 34 year old Joel Ward, or Tommy Wingels, is an even worse idea. At least everyone knows Karlsson can function, and he doesn't have a large enough sample size to completely shoot him down.
filosofy71
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Mateo, CA
Joined: 06.16.2008

Jul 5 @ 10:58 PM ET
Fehr for Torres' salary and Zidlicky in a 1 year rest of the available cap space contract???

Ok, enough dreaming.

Tim Chiasson
Location: Halifax
Joined: 07.12.2013

Jul 5 @ 10:59 PM ET
Fehr for Torres' salary and Zidlicky in a 1 year rest of the available cap space contract???

Ok, enough dreaming.


- filosofy71


Torres can't be placed on LTIR for any value until the season starts. That's why Savard and Pronger were traded.
Sharks_12
San Jose Sharks
Location: *Not Getting The Bit* Regina, SK
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jul 5 @ 11:01 PM ET
Outside of Thornton, Pavelski and Couture, the Sharks have no legitimate top six players. They have fill ins.
- Tim Chiasson


Marleau played terrible last season, especially defensively (where his linemates struggled as much as he did). But offensively he was still in top 60 in the league. Let's not be ridiculous here. Unless he regresses next season as much as he did last season, he is still at worst an average albeit overpaid 2nd line forward.
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