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Jason Lewis
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Jul 5 @ 12:12 PM ET
Jason Lewis: Breaking Down the Lucic Trade: Good or Bad?
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 5 @ 12:18 PM ET
Disastrous if he doesn't resign

Lot of assets for a guy with only 1 year left
Monitor1
Location: Orchard Park, NY
Joined: 03.27.2015

Jul 5 @ 12:27 PM ET
If Lucic plays at over 80% of his capability, LA has done amazing. He can change a game with his play, that's how much of a factor he is.
Sweeney got hosed on this due to the picks he made at the draft but I have to admit he has done well with all other deals not named Hamilton.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 5 @ 12:32 PM ET
I feel that atm the trade is a win for Boston. But if LA can get him signed to a non 6+mil a year deal and he produces. I think it'll end up being a even trade for both team. Would hate the see LA once again give up a 1st round pick for a rental. But I sure hope the big focus is on getting Kopi locked down.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jul 5 @ 12:41 PM ET
I get the feeling from things I've read hes not really a locker room kinda guy. All about him all the time. If its true, its unfortunate for the kings.

I was happy when I heard the Canucks didnt get him.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Jul 5 @ 12:47 PM ET
Unless Voynov's contract and Richards becomes completely void, I just don't see how you guys can resign him. Otherwise, no real issues.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jul 5 @ 12:48 PM ET
Unless Voynov's contract and Richards becomes completely void, I just don't see how you guys can resign him. Otherwise, no real issues.
- Danformo

Richards is already VOID is it not?
Jason Lewis
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Jul 5 @ 12:51 PM ET
Richards is already VOID is it not?
- vancity787


If a grievance is filed by the NHLPA (Which seems inevitable) and the ruling is upheld, the Kings will likely have to use a regular buyout on top of paying a penalty or something. So it is not quite certain yet how much that hit will end up being.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Jul 5 @ 1:21 PM ET
I truly believe that Lucic does not have the attitude of a champion and he has the potential to severely divide a locker room. He has all of the tools, but there is something that is not firing properly in his brain. Until this changes, I don't think he should be on a contending team. LA certainly does not need more headaches.
DougGilmour_93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.30.2013

Jul 5 @ 1:24 PM ET
win for LA. Got a bulldozzer and a power horse
DougGilmour_93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.30.2013

Jul 5 @ 1:25 PM ET
I truly believe that Lucic does not have the attitude of a champion and he has the potential to severely divide a locker room. He has all of the tools, but there is something that is not firing properly in his brain. Until this changes, I don't think he should be on a contending team. LA certainly does not need more headaches.
- JLO961


yet the oilers were connected to trade for him when the chance was there. Okay man Any team would want lucic on their team.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Jul 5 @ 1:29 PM ET
yet the oilers were connected to trade for him when the chance was there. Okay man Any team would want lucic on their team.
- DougGilmour_93


Oiler fans are the best
QuicksEnnormous
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Villa Park, CA
Joined: 02.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 1:31 PM ET
yet the oilers were connected to trade for him when the chance was there. Okay man Any team would want lucic on their team.
- DougGilmour_93


I doubt Chiarelli would target a player from his former team that he knew had huge locker room issues and wasn't a winner.

Jason really well written article can't really comment because you were spot on in taking into account all angles and factors behind this trade. I appreciate all the research as opposed to reading a piece that's purely speculation or conjecture.
DougGilmour_93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.30.2013

Jul 5 @ 1:33 PM ET
Oiler fans are the best
- Danformo


who would not want one of the toughest, hard hitting, power forward, intimidating forward who has the skillset to both be that physical presence and scoring winger? Lucic will be excellent for LA, he fits their system and will be useful in the playoffs to wear down their opponents. Excellent trade for the Kings. The only reason Chicago won this year is because LA missed the playoffs. LA missing the playoffs means nothing, because when they are in the playoffs they play a different game. LA will make the playoffs next season and i am banking on them to win it all.
DougGilmour_93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.30.2013

Jul 5 @ 1:34 PM ET
I doubt Chiarelli would target a player from his former team that he knew had huge locker room issues and wasn't a winner.

Jason really well written article can't really comment because you were spot on in taking into account all angles and factors behind this trade. I appreciate all the research as opposed to reading a piece that's purely speculation or conjecture.

- QuicksEnnormous


so you are saying you hate the trade? implying you need more prospects. The time is now to win more cups just as Chicago is doing.
QuicksEnnormous
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Villa Park, CA
Joined: 02.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 1:37 PM ET
so you are saying you hate the trade?
- DougGilmour_93


I think most likely scenario is he has a monster year on the top line and maybe prices himself out of LA. If it results in LA bring in home another cup it's totally worth it. I'd rather the kings go all in with a roster that is ready to contend than hold onto assets so they can be "competitive" for a decade.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jul 5 @ 1:48 PM ET
who would not want one of the toughest, hard hitting, power forward, intimidating forward who has the skillset to both be that physical presence and scoring winger? Lucic will be excellent for LA, he fits their system and will be useful in the playoffs to wear down their opponents. Excellent trade for the Kings. The only reason Chicago won this year is because LA missed the playoffs. LA missing the playoffs means nothing, because when they are in the playoffs they play a different game. LA will make the playoffs next season and i am banking on them to win it all.
- DougGilmour_93


Oh plz Hawks would have handled LA if they hypothetically would have made the playoffs. You are over rating Lucic and the Kings in general.

Gretz2Kurri
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 01.19.2014

Jul 5 @ 1:49 PM ET
' win for LA. Got a bulldozzer and a power horse'

This was how I viewed the trade as well. I think we overpaid a bit with the first rounder, but still won the trade because we got the best player in the deal. It will be exciting to see Lucic on the Kopitar line this year.

Great article, well researched.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jul 5 @ 1:53 PM ET
I can't wait to see Lucic this year. Have always wanted him on the Kings. Way better option than that log King that's for sure
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:53 PM ET
Gaborik - Kopitar - Toffoli / Brown
Lucic - Carter - Brown / Toffoli

LA won the trade

just need to resign (8 years @6m>)
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jul 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
Oh plz Hawks would have handled LA if they hypothetically would have made the playoffs. You are over rating Lucic and the Kings in general.
- SimpleJack

Thanks for you're 2cents.... Bye now
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jul 5 @ 1:57 PM ET
Gaborik - Kopitar - Toffoli / Brown
Lucic - Carter - Brown / Toffoli

LA won the trade

just need to resign (8 years @6m>)

- AlfieisKing

I would rather the lines look more like this. I do like the looks of that second line you got though. We'll see when season comes. I'm sure there will be some mixing and matching

Lucic Kopitar Gaborik

Pearson Carter Toffoli

King Shore Brown/Weal
QuicksEnnormous
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Villa Park, CA
Joined: 02.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 1:58 PM ET
Gaborik - Kopitar - Toffoli / Brown
Lucic - Carter - Brown / Toffoli

LA won the trade

just need to resign (8 years @6m>)

- AlfieisKing


Dean already said he envisions
Lucic-kopitar -gaborik
Pearson-carter-toffoli

That leaves the 6 million dollar captain on the 3rd line to get his 15 goals and 20 assists using his patented pull drag and fall down move.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jul 5 @ 2:00 PM ET
Dean already said he envisions
Lucic-kopitar -gaborik
Pearson-carter-toffoli

That leaves the 6 million dollar captain on the 3rd line to get his 15 goals and 20 assists using his patented pull drag and fall down move.

- QuicksEnnormous

yesitscal
Joined: 02.27.2015

Jul 5 @ 2:03 PM ET
Can't see how signing Lucic long-term would benefit the Kings salary structure. As Jason pointed out, they'll have to re-sign Kopitar, and in another couple years they're going to have to re-sign Toffoli again, and Tyler isn't going to settle for the same kind of contract he just signed after what Buffalo and Columbus did to upset the salary structure for younger players. They also don't need another player who's going to wear down himself in the process of wearing down other players. How many more years do they have to pay Brown? The Kings should focus on perhaps becoming a faster and quicker skating team rather than just trying to grind their opponents into the ice every game.
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