Ryan Wilson: Should Pittsburgh Take Advantage of The Buyouts to Paranteau and Richards? Should Pittsburgh Take Advantage of The Buyouts to Paranteau and Richards?

Ryan Wilson: Should Pittsburgh Take Advantage of The Buyouts to Paranteau and Richards?
Should Pittsburgh Take Advantage of The Buyouts to Paranteau and Richards?
- Ryan_Wilson

But the feel good story... and.. and the feel good story...

God no on Richards. Yes please for PA. I'm getting really concerned we're stuck with Spaling.

Parenteau absolutely. Richards, I'd rather not, but he'd be better than Lapierre at 4C at least.

Adding Richards, at this point in his career, while managing cap constraints is a fire-able offense for any GM. He's simply beyond his expiration date. If Phx doesn't want him, then that's saying something...


PA, on the other hand, could be a low-risk/ value signing (1-2yrs) that could add to roster depth. Given proper placement, I think he could net 15+. The price would have to be favorable though.

No to both Richards and Parenteau. I think Comeau would be a better option over P.A

I wouldn't recommend it. Cough cough Vinny Lecavalier cough

If you want paranteau wouldn't the easiest solution be to trade for him and have Montreal retain? That way he only hits their cap for 1 year as opposed to 2

So if a team picks up Richards what if any cap hits do they take on if he retires

Can't pretend i've watched a ton of Mike Richards. But maybe a 4th line center, mike richards or not, is something to consider.

I'm pretty confident Sundqvist would be able to handle it, but it'd be nice to let him bake for an extra year in the minors/junior. If they don't need him, then it'd be nice to delay the awesomeness of his ELC for when he is ready for the 3rd line and to coincide with the eventual expensiveness of Pouliot and Maatta as much as possible.

Parenteau would be pretty dang nice at 2 mil.

Can he play both wings? It'd be nice if he could play left wing.

I guess the only issue there is what is already on the roster. Hornqvist is only a RW. Any TJ Oshie/ Kessel acquisition is a strict RW i think. Beau is best at RW (his shot production/suppression is just as impressive as Parenteau's).

I mean i guess having a good player like Parenteau or Bennet on the 4th line is kinda the point. So i guess that's not an issue. Ignore my last two paragraphs.

And with Winnik. I know the cool opinion to have is to hate him cuz he didn't produce points. But how was his shot suppression/production? I'm not sure i know what to root for with him. I know it wasn't aesthetically pleasing when he was shoved up with Sid, but that doesn't necessarily mean that i should root against him signing here as 4th line Center or something.

Parenteau's brutal. He's lazy and floats around, i think he and Kessel have the same dietician. Then again playing alongside Crosby and Malkin makes anyone look good.

No to both Richards and Parenteau. I think Comeau would be a better option over P.A
- willi

Parenteau is probably a hair better than Comeau, but Comeau's versatility probably makes that a tie in my head. They'd both be awesome as 3rd/4th liners under $2 million.

The one thing going for the Pens right now is that it's really becoming a buyer's market.

As a Habs fan, who watched all of PA's games last year, if any GM picks him up they are getting the potential of a good second liner.... in the AHL.... Cause this guy is lazy, can't skate enough to keep up with the play and is simply no longer good enough to be relied upon as a scorer in the NHL

Parenteau's brutal. He's lazy and floats around, i think he and Kessel have the same dietician. Then again playing alongside Crosby and Malkin makes anyone look good.
- maxbart5

I don't think anyone here really wants him on a top line with Sid or Malkin (and i know i'd really want them to aim higher for their big winger acquisition). It's more a 3rd line option since Rutherford has stated desire for 4 lines that can score.

His shot suppression seems too good for him to also be lazy. But i guess i'll take your note on his laziness and definitely keep an eye out if he signs with the Pens. You'd certainly know a lot more about his play than i would.

Parenteau's brutal. He's lazy and floats around, i think he and Kessel have the same dietician. Then again playing alongside Crosby and Malkin makes anyone look good.
- maxbart5

PA was good in NY and Colorado... Is it possible that he and Therrien just did not see eye to eye? (would not be and won't be the last player that he does not get along with)

So if a team picks up Richards what if any cap hits do they take on if he retires
- dmarsden2988

Whatever they sign him to


The buy out affects LA and LA only... He can sign whatever he wants. Mostly like getting 1 mil to 800K on a 1 year deal. And I personally see no issue with risking that... No one can convince me he can be worse than Adams or Sill on a 4th line. He doesn't "have" to play center when down on a 4th line, he can be purely a strong player for that usage.

Yes

PA was good in NY and Colorado... Is it possible that he and Therrien just did not see eye to eye? (would not be and won't be the last player that he does not get along with)
- Brianandr1

He didn't see eye to eye with Roy either.

Usually there's a reason these guys get bought out. If the Pens just needed some insurance pieces then sure, but I think they need more than that so they should probably get someone more established and safe either as a UFA or through a trade. Skinner or Frolik come to mind.

Usually there's a reason these guys get bought out. If the Pens just needed some insurance pieces then sure, but I think they need more than that so they should probably get someone more established and safe either as a UFA or through a trade. Skinner or Frolik come to mind.
- 13sundin13

Skinner is out from some random tweet/source I saw earlier today... Frolik looks nice, but the more I look at him, the more I realize hes never been a 20 goal scorer at 27 years old, and gonna command about 5 mil. Thats just really damn pricey.


But I'd want Richards for depth, like we did with Downie, Comeau, and Spaling...

I'd prefer Oskar Sundqvist over Richards... It's bout time he gets a chance.... He can start off as the 4th line C and if he does well he can be promoted to 3rd line C

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And with Winnik. I know the cool opinion to have is to hate him cuz he didn't produce points. But how was his shot suppression/production? I'm not sure i know what to root for with him. I know it wasn't aesthetically pleasing when he was shoved up with Sid, but that doesn't necessarily mean that i should root against him signing here as 4th line Center or something.
- poopmouth

Quotes from Rutherford today. Seems like he isn't as exicited about getting a top 6:
http://triblive.com/sport...six-forward#axzz3ePT2phAu
Rutherford's stance has seemingly softened. Instead of making good on his stated goal of acquiring a top-six forward, Rutherford didn't swing a trade at the NHL Draft for just the eighth time in 22 chances throughout his career.

“I thought we might have done something when I was heading to Florida, but I wasn't surprised that I didn't,” Rutherford said. “Because, like I said, I didn't feel pressured into it, that I just had to do something.”

Since he has lied about getting a top 6 in a trade and about buyouts, I believe now he is lying about these quotes. Also, Winnick looks like he is going to UFA.

So, I expect a BIG trade coming in the next 4 days!

I'd prefer Oskar Sundqvist over Richards... It's bout time he gets a chance.... He can start off as the 4th line C and if he does well he can be promoted to 3rd line C
- Kunit

Hence my wanting Richards just as an experienced body down there... If Sundqvist isn't ready for the NHL right away, which is fine at that young, you have Richards to man the line. Or he can play wing down there... I am just being optimistic on these reclamation type players, but I just see no downside to a player who is almost certainly getting 1 mil or less. Hell, he might take a 2 year deal for 1.5 mil just for some mental stability in a team trusting him. Not like we'd lose much at all sending him to the AHL.


Again... no one can convince me with any graph, chart, or polygraph test that Richards wouldn't be an improvement over Adams... and he has an IMMENSE upside, an extreme upside even.

Hence my wanting Richards just as an experienced body down there... If Sundqvist isn't ready for the NHL right away, which is fine at that young, you have Richards to man the line. Or he can play wing down there... I am just being optimistic on these reclamation type players, but I just see no downside to a player who is almost certainly getting 1 mil or less. Hell, he might take a 2 year deal for 1.5 mil just for some mental stability in a team trusting him. Not like we'd lose much at all sending him to the AHL.


Again... no one can convince me with any graph, chart, or polygraph test that Richards wouldn't be an improvement over Adams... and he has an IMMENSE upside, an extreme upside even.
- Guile

The story out of LA seems to be Richards just doesn't have the heart and refuses to give the effort to stay in the NHL. Why would you want to bring that here? He's the last thing we need. We need young, fast and hungry players not lazy and content ones.

Virtually anybody would be better than Adams. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to sign the guy.

I'd prefer Oskar Sundqvist over Richards... It's bout time he gets a chance.... He can start off as the 4th line C and if he does well he can be promoted to 3rd line C
- Kunit

It's just kinda a matter of trying to be efficient with his ELC. They might wanna make sure he is ready for prime time on the 3rd line before using up one of his cheap years. Especially since they'll have to get super creative in 1/2 years once they'll have to extend Maatta/Pouliot to big contracts. Gotta keep Sid, Fleury, Malkin, Letang, Pouliot, and Maatta together as long as possible, right?

Once those guys are all making a bunch of money, the roster will have to be flooded with ELC guys. And they are actually in a pretty good position, prospect-wise. In theory, Kapanen, Sundqvist, and maybe even Sprong could take pretty big roles for little $$$ and make keeping that core together a few more years more realistic.