Ryan Wilson: Reports of Jim Rutherford Contacting Carolina About A Top Six Forward Reports of Jim Rutherford Contacting Carolina About A Top Six Forward

gotta make room for Kessel

So much wrong with this, its not even funny.

Shero tapped NASH for players only because he knew them. He did the same with the help of Disco in ANA. Now JR is going back to CAR because he just doesn't know any better. When EK broke that story, it was no secret it was JR going after Skinner.

Im starting to think Kap was picked solely due to the relationship JR had with Sami.

Pens are trending towards oblivion.

I don't know how I feel about this at all... He's a great player, that's for sure, and I would hesitate to call him a concussion waiting to happen, but the cap hit. And I don't even want to know what it would cost to get him. But damn, what a fit he'd be on Crosby or Malkin's left. Plus he can play center.

Pass on skinner.. Tlusty, boedker, kadri, are all the same type.of player with less cost and no injury background. Plus you don't need to trade assets.

But if they want kuni then do it lol

Pass on skinner.. Tlusty, boedker, kadri, are all the same type.of player with less cost and no injury background. Plus you don't need to trade assets.

But if they want kuni then do it lol
- nh4442

Why would they move a 23 yr old locked up for 4-5 more yrs for a 36 yr old with 2 years at a similar cost?

Im not saying Skinner sucks, I think he's pretty good although I haven't watched him a while, but to tap your old club is a joke.

Big time pass on Skinner. Not worth the aggravation trading high end assets we can't afford to trade for an injury waiting to happen.

No Skinner ,no Semin.

edit: I suppose if they would take 100% Scud's contract I would listen to any proposal.

Pass on skinner.. Tlusty, boedker, kadri, are all the same type.of player with less cost and no injury background. Plus you don't need to trade assets.

But if they want kuni then do it lol
- nh4442

The fact Toronto wants to unload Kadri, a young talented kid, should send red flags all over the place.

Pass on skinner.. Tlusty, boedker, kadri, are all the same type.of player with less cost and no injury background. Plus you don't need to trade assets.

But if they want kuni then do it lol
- nh4442

Come on. Skinner is definitely much better than those players. Boedker could still flourish playing on a better team, but Skinner has been a shining part of a pretty poopty organization when healthy. Wouldn't call him a 6 mil player though. Hasn't eclipsed 70 points or consistently hit 60.

The fact Toronto wants to unload Kadri, a young talented kid, should send red flags all over the place.
- Oneonta Penguin

Show me something that says the Leafs are trying to "unload" Kadri.

So much wrong with this, its not even funny.

Shero tapped NASH for players only because he knew them. He did the same with the help of Disco in ANA. Now JR is going back to CAR because he just doesn't know any better. When EK broke that story, it was no secret it was JR going after Skinner.

Im starting to think Kap was picked solely due to the relationship JR had with Sami.

Pens are trending towards oblivion.

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But are you saying that Kap was a bad draft choice? Relationship aside, I believe most experts viewed that as a steal of a draft pick.

Come on. Skinner is definitely much better than those players. Boedker could still flourish playing on a better team, but Skinner has been a shining part of a pretty poopty organization when healthy. Wouldn't call him a 6 mil player though. Hasn't eclipsed 70 points or consistently hit 60.
- Victoro311

JMO, people are as concerned about his talent or ability to score, its the health issues that come with him. Definite risk. We already are blessed to have one dude with chronic cases of concussions and he is making north of 7 million per. I don't like the idea of having the forward version of Letang making 6 with concussion history as well.

I'm not questioning the talent at all. He can produce. He is young too. Can't believe he is still that young.

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But are you saying that Kap was a bad draft choice? Relationship aside, I believe most experts viewed that as a steal of a draft pick.
- Guile

He's not Josh Ho-Sang so until he proves it on the ice, I will continue to question Rutherford.

Show me something that says the Leafs are trying to "unload" Kadri.
- stonehead

You guys have wanted Kadri gone for two years and he is a frequent name mentioned out of Toronto to be dealt. I have been around this board and others for a while to know this is pretty much fact. Of course, his last name begins with a "K", so ...

Concussion history? Welcome to Pittsburgh. It's inevitable.

JMO, people are as concerned about his talent or ability to score, its the health issues that come with him. Definite risk. We already are blessed to have one dude with chronic cases of concussions and he is making north of 7 million per. I don't like the idea of having the forward version of Letang making 6 with concussion history as well.

I'm not questioning the talent at all. He can produce. He is young too. Can't believe he is still that young.
- Oneonta Penguin

I wouldn't take on a 6 mil contracted unless it was a bonafide stud. Skinner scares me. Concussions are definitely a part of it, but I'm also just not sold on consistent production either. I won't go jump off a bridge if we acquired him, but I'd be nervous.

Not saying he's a bad draft choice, although he did nothing in WJ and nothing in his brief stint in WB, just saying looking back its a bit suspicious. The draft is a crap shoot anyway.

You guys have wanted Kadri gone for two years and he is a frequent name mentioned out of Toronto to be dealt.
- Oneonta Penguin

Riiiiiight! If the Leafs wanted Kadri gone, he would be. Not saying he wouldn't be available in the right trade, but it isn't like they are trying to dump him.

I wouldn't take on a 6 mil contracted unless it was a bonafide stud. Skinner scares me. Concussions are definitely a part of it, but I'm also just not sold on consistent production either. I won't go jump off a bridge if we acquired him, but I'd be nervous.
- Victoro311

I can't see this being a bargain though. If Sutter or Kuni or Scuds went the other way...they why not. I have a feeling JR would pay something stupid for him though.

As far as concussion history though. Any time a player steps on the ice anything can happen from missing a shift to a career ending injury. Can happen to anyone anytime, you just can't plan for it.

I can't see this being a bargain though. If Sutter or Kuni or Scuds went the other way...they why not. I have a feeling JR would pay something stupid for him though.

As far as concussion history though. Any time a player steps on the ice anything can happen from missing a shift to a career ending injury. Can happen to anyone anytime, you just can't plan for it.
- sammy87

Here's the scenario where I'd be happy with the deal: Skinner for Kunitz, Sutter, Harrington.

If the Canes are trading him I'm assuming they're going full rebuild. They're probably trading Eric Staal and maybe Jordan as well. At the deadline, Kunitz and Sutter could get some damn good packages. Harrington is a few years away from the NHL so he can contribute when Carolina starts to turn it around. When you look at our package as two firsts, a b prospect, and maybe some other assets, would that be a fair return for a concussion riddled player with a high cap hit?

Harrington is "a good few years away"? What?

Okposo, Oshie, Lucic....

Tikhonov for cheap should be a done deal. He plays a nice two-way game and can be tried on Geno's wing although he's a sure thing as a 3rd liner.

Here's the scenario where I'd be happy with the deal: Skinner for Kunitz, Sutter, Harrington.

If the Canes are trading him I'm assuming they're going full rebuild. They're probably trading Eric Staal and maybe Jordan as well. At the deadline, Kunitz and Sutter could get some damn good packages. Harrington is a few years away from the NHL so he can contribute when Carolina starts to turn it around. When you look at our package as two firsts, a b prospect, and maybe some other assets, would that be a fair return for a concussion riddled player with a high cap hit?
- Victoro311

If you were a Carolina fan, would you be happy with that return for one of your best players, a young one too boot? Both of us know about his concussion history. However, I can't see the scenario you have put out there be intriguing for Ron Francis to bite on. What does Kunitz, a 35-year old forward on the decline bring them? I don't see him getting a huge package as you say at the deadline. His value now is a second round pick probably. You think him going to Carolina, where he will be on a line with second rate talent, would increase the value?

You might be able to sell Francis on Sutter and Carolina should be interested in Harrington because their defense is poor and they need an influx of prospects.

Francis has his eyes on a much higher return. If Rutherford called about Skinner, I wouldn't be shocked if Francis' first name coming back as part of a package is a young PMD who ironically was chosen with the pick Carolina sent us for Staal.

Very curious as to what you think the value of Kris Letang is on the open market. Be careful, because Skinner's injury history pales in comparison to Letang.

When fans of other teams bring up letang a concussion issues we defend it by saying the Doan hit was unnecessary and anyone would have gotten a concussion there. When skinner is mentioned we go right to his concussion history. Give me Jeff skinner over semin all day. Semin makes more and might cost less to acquire but skinner is younger and hasn't peaked IMO. No brainer