Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Introducing CapGeek Successor, Draft Prospects to Avoid?
Author Message
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

May 6 @ 2:27 PM ET
Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Introducing CapGeek Successor, Draft Prospects to Avoid? The Calgary Flames proved they won't go quietly with a thrilling overtime win against the Anaheim Ducks, CapGeek successor General Fanager is here and a quick look at some draft prospects who might be too good to be true.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 6 @ 2:42 PM ET
Topics for today


1. Luca Sbisa sucks and is extremely overpaid.
2. How old is Sam Bennett?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 6 @ 2:53 PM ET
Excellent news on the new site. I was wondering about a half hour ago why has no one stepped up and done a site.


I agree on the goal. It was called no goal on the play , there was no conclusive camera angle to overturn the decision


Canada getting their asses kicked, I don't care though
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 6 @ 2:53 PM ET
Topics for today


1. Luca Sbisa sucks and is extremely overpaid.
2. How old is Sam Bennett?

- Nucker101


Flagged
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 6 @ 3:01 PM ET
New site pretty much like NHL numbers
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 6 @ 3:14 PM ET
The puck was in Carol.

As much as I am not a Flames fan it was clearly across the line. Shades of 2004 when Gelinas potentially would have scored the cup winning goal that was disallowed (it was also in). There may have been a riot on the red mile if that play would have cost the Flames the game. It's just Gary and his merry band of idiots up to their regular bag of tricks. You could read Getzlafs' lips and even he said 'it was in'. SN360 late last night had a high def shot of the left side (from the front) of the net blown up in a magnified circle and to me it looked clearly across. How the war room could not determine that is beyond me.

Regardless of overhead views or 'snow' in the way or not a conclusive call by the ref on the ice the camera coming down showing the left side of the net clearly showed it was in. If the league ain't going to get these right moving forward we may as well ditch instant replay altogether.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 6 @ 3:22 PM ET
The puck was in Carol.

As much as I am not a Flames fan it was clearly across the line. Shades of 2004 when Gelinas potentially would have scored the cup winning goal that was disallowed (it was also in). There may have been a riot on the red mile if that play would have cost the Flames the game. It's just Gary and his merry band of idiots up to their regular bag of tricks. You could read Getzlafs' lips and even he said 'it was in'. SN360 late last night had a high def shot of the left side (from the front) of the net blown up in a magnified circle and to me it looked clearly across. How the war room could not determine that is beyond me.

Regardless of overhead views or 'snow' in the way or not a conclusive call by the ref on the ice the camera coming down showing the left side of the net clearly showed it was in. If the league ain't going to get these right moving forward we may as well ditch instant replay altogether.

- LordHumungous


I don't think there is any question whether puck was in or not. Where is the video proof to overturn the on ice decision
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 6 @ 3:41 PM ET
I don't think there is any question whether puck was in or not. Where is the video proof to overturn the on ice decision
- VANTEL


http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...al/?row=2&row_ids=1617477

Right at 0:17 seconds. I couldn't find the blown up image that SN360 showed last night but that to me looks in. There is white between the puck and the goal line and that ain't snow. His goal pad was well back in the net and to me the puck looked clearly across when it hit his pad. Even the two announcer said it was in upon that replay at 0:17.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

May 6 @ 3:41 PM ET
The puck was in Carol.

As much as I am not a Flames fan it was clearly across the line. Shades of 2004 when Gelinas potentially would have scored the cup winning goal that was disallowed (it was also in). There may have been a riot on the red mile if that play would have cost the Flames the game. It's just Gary and his merry band of idiots up to their regular bag of tricks. You could read Getzlafs' lips and even he said 'it was in'. SN360 late last night had a high def shot of the left side (from the front) of the net blown up in a magnified circle and to me it looked clearly across. How the war room could not determine that is beyond me.

Regardless of overhead views or 'snow' in the way or not a conclusive call by the ref on the ice the camera coming down showing the left side of the net clearly showed it was in. If the league ain't going to get these right moving forward we may as well ditch instant replay altogether.

- LordHumungous


Yes, the puck was almost certainly in. As Vantel says, the sticking point here is the lack of incontrovertible evidence.

Did you look at the Jason Kay piece that I linked to? He illustrates pretty clearly why the angle from the left that we saw is not a sure thing—and why the war room must have the overhead view in order to overturn a call.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 6 @ 3:44 PM ET
Good, now there is no need to discuss drafting those 3.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 6 @ 3:46 PM ET
Carlo just seems like a Benning pick. Big guy with questionable hockey sense. Overrated prospect.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 6 @ 3:47 PM ET
Yes, the puck was almost certainly in. As Vantel says, the sticking point here is the lack of incontrovertible evidence.

Did you look at the Jason Kay piece that I linked to? He illustrates pretty clearly why the angle from the left that we saw is not a sure thing—and why the war room must have the overhead view in order to overturn a call.

- Carol Schram

+1
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 6 @ 3:56 PM ET
Carlo just seems like a Benning pick. Big guy with questionable hockey sense. Overrated prospect.
- Nucker101

I think we already have that Dman in Pedan. We have three guys in our system over 6' 5 . Andrew Alberts was also over 6'5.

We need a puck mover that can shoot. I know Pilon is rated around 46 but I like his skills more than Carlo.

The secret is to actually get Pedan in and Bieksa out. That's the real trick
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 6 @ 4:00 PM ET
The puck was in Carol.

As much as I am not a Flames fan it was clearly across the line. Shades of 2004 when Gelinas potentially would have scored the cup winning goal that was disallowed (it was also in). There may have been a riot on the red mile if that play would have cost the Flames the game. It's just Gary and his merry band of idiots up to their regular bag of tricks. You could read Getzlafs' lips and even he said 'it was in'. SN360 late last night had a high def shot of the left side (from the front) of the net blown up in a magnified circle and to me it looked clearly across. How the war room could not determine that is beyond me.

Regardless of overhead views or 'snow' in the way or not a conclusive call by the ref on the ice the camera coming down showing the left side of the net clearly showed it was in. If the league ain't going to get these right moving forward we may as well ditch instant replay altogether.

- LordHumungous


LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 6 @ 4:08 PM ET
Yes, the puck was almost certainly in. As Vantel says, the sticking point here is the lack of incontrovertible evidence.

Did you look at the Jason Kay piece that I linked to? He illustrates pretty clearly why the angle from the left that we saw is not a sure thing—and why the war room must have the overhead view in order to overturn a call.

- Carol Schram


I understand all of the intangibles involved Carol. But if something like that 'incontrovertible evidence' ends up costing a team the Stanley Cup then I believe that doesn't bode well for the credibility of the NHL and why we have High Def instant replay in general.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 6 @ 4:09 PM ET
I think we already have that Dman in Pedan. We have three guys in our system over 6' 5 . Andrew Alberts was also over 6'5.

We need a puck mover that can shoot. I know Pilon is rated around 46 but I like his skills more than Carlo.

The secret is to actually get Pedan in and Bieksa out. That's the real trick

- VANTEL


Very true.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 6 @ 4:10 PM ET

- bloatedmosquito





It is.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 6 @ 4:17 PM ET
I understand all of the intangibles involved Carol. But if something like that 'incontrovertible evidence' ends up costing a team the Stanley Cup then I believe that doesn't bode well for the credibility of the NHL and why we have High Def instant replay in general.
- LordHumungous

The credibility will never be trusted regardless of which way the call went. They made the right decision .
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 6 @ 4:17 PM ET
I understand all of the intangibles involved Carol. But if something like that 'incontrovertible evidence' ends up costing a team the Stanley Cup then I believe that doesn't bode well for the credibility of the NHL and why we have High Def instant replay in general.
-LordHumungous


I'm not convinced it was completely in. The overhead angle is the most trustworthy and it wasn't debatable on that angle that it was in, the only thing casting doubt is the side angle illusion. They really need cameras in the post junctions for a closer and clearer view than the overhead
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 6 @ 4:18 PM ET
By the way, where is Oscar Moller these days and are we interested...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 6 @ 4:19 PM ET
I'm not convinced it was completely in. The overhead angle is the most trustworthy and it wasn't debatable on that angle that it was in, the only thing casting doubt is the side angle illusion. They really need cameras in the post junctions for a closer and clearer view than the overhead
- WhiteLie


I think they said last night that there is cameras in the post and it was inconclusive
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 6 @ 4:23 PM ET
By the way, where is Oscar Moller these days and are we interested...
- WhiteLie

KHL or SEL
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

May 6 @ 4:24 PM ET

V, Please tell me Pedan plays with an edge all the time, not just picking his spots on when to play with a little grit.

Not that I want him to drop his gloves all the time, and always in the box, but checking and physical play is part of his normal play.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 6 @ 4:25 PM ET
V, Please tell me Pedan plays with an edge all the time, not just picking his spots on when to play with a little grit.

Not that I want him to drop his gloves all the time, and always in the box, but checking and physical play is part of his normal play.

- hillbillydeluxe

Big shot , little skill, tough
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 6 @ 4:25 PM ET
I think we already have that Dman in Pedan. We have three guys in our system over 6' 5 . Andrew Alberts was also over 6'5.

We need a puck mover that can shoot. I know Pilon is rated around 46 but I like his skills more than Carlo.

The secret is to actually get Pedan in and Bieksa out. That's the real trick

- VANTEL



I'd love for Benning to acquire a 2nd rounder and draft Rasmus Andersson 64 points in 67 games, next highest scoring dman on his team only has 23 in 62. He's the highest scoring 17 year old on his team as well. 88 pims in 67 games so I bet he has some grit.

I also like Vince Dunn if he's still available in the 2nd. Similar to Andersson, but projected to go earlier(late 1st/early 2nd). Highest scoring d-man on his team despite being a young junior player and 59 pims in 68 games so likely not soft either.


Pilon isn't bad either for a 2nd rounder, but I prefer those 2.
Page: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next