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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 23 @ 5:22 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Goalie Coach, Carcillo & Antoski's Noble Fight, Alumni
Jeropotato
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Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Apr 23 @ 6:17 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Goalie Coach, Carcillo & Antoski's Noble Fight, Alumni
- bmeltzer


Im not here to talk about the blog, I'm more curious when Hextall is gonna pull his thumb from his ass and do something? His hire reeked of nepotism not unlike the Oilers, but it doesnt seem to be an issue in Philly. Is Hextall dumb, lazy or cowardly? I have yet to see him significantly improve poop on the Flyers.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 23 @ 6:59 AM ET
You would think Oiler fans would have enough to worry about
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Apr 23 @ 7:06 AM ET
Denial leads to deflection.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 23 @ 7:38 AM ET
It's chilling to think of Montador's death, and not see the NHL and NHLPA step up efforts to assist former players more, especially after the deaths of Rick Rypien, Wade Belak and Derek Boogaard a few years ago.

Like the NFL, the NHL is facing legal action by former players. if the league and the PA would be more attentive to the needs of former players, maybe Montador's story doesn't end so sadly.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Apr 23 @ 7:51 AM ET
Im not here to talk about the blog, I'm more curious when Hextall is gonna pull his thumb from his ass and do something? His hire reeked of nepotism not unlike the Oilers, but it doesnt seem to be an issue in Philly. Is Hextall dumb, lazy or cowardly? I have yet to see him significantly improve poop on the Flyers.
- Jeropotato

when I see Hexy I will tell him your concerns
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Apr 23 @ 7:56 AM ET
Im not here to talk about the blog, I'm more curious when Hextall is gonna pull his thumb from his ass and do something? His hire reeked of nepotism not unlike the Oilers, but it doesnt seem to be an issue in Philly. Is Hextall dumb, lazy or cowardly? I have yet to see him significantly improve poop on the Flyers.
- Jeropotato


Hey, we can't all have the #1 pick every year (albeit in vain).. some teams have to put more thought, research, and work into their teambuilding.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Apr 23 @ 8:04 AM ET
Hey, we can't all have the #1 pick every year (albeit in vain).. some teams have to put more thought, research, and work into their teambuilding.
- WarriorHockey21


Seems like the Oilers have to do more of that, too.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 23 @ 8:06 AM ET
Being the Sens are loaded at the goaltender position, would a VLC for Craig Anderson trade make sense?

Works perfectly cap wise. Would Anderson be a serviceable backup for Mason?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 23 @ 8:06 AM ET
Im not here to talk about the blog, I'm more curious when Hextall is gonna pull his thumb from his ass and do something? His hire reeked of nepotism not unlike the Oilers, but it doesnt seem to be an issue in Philly. Is Hextall dumb, lazy or cowardly? I have yet to see him significantly improve poop on the Flyers.
- Jeropotato

Yeah Hextall hasn't done poop in one year with the 16th overall pick except land a future number 1 D man.

How have you guys panned out with with 3, now 4 1st overalls under MacT? Surely that must have put you ahead of our pathetic team.

3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Apr 23 @ 8:10 AM ET
Being the Sens are loaded at the goaltender position, would a VLC for Craig Anderson trade make sense?

Works perfectly cap wise. Would Anderson be a serviceable backup for Mason?

- PLindbergh31


I think Anderson will still be the #1 in Ottawa. Hey I would do anything to get rid of Vinny but I just don't think the Sens would do it
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 23 @ 8:11 AM ET
I think Anderson will still be the #1 in Ottawa. Hey I would do anything to get rid of Vinny but I just don't think the Sens would do it
- 3flyerkids


They have the Hamburglar, and Lehner. Wasn't this Hammond kid 20-1-2 or something along those lines?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 23 @ 8:13 AM ET
I think Anderson will still be the #1 in Ottawa. Hey I would do anything to get rid of Vinny but I just don't think the Sens would do it
- 3flyerkids



Don't you fall for that trap. He just wants to be able to female dog about the team's cap management for spending 4 million plus for three more years on a backup goalie.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 23 @ 8:15 AM ET
I think Anderson will still be the #1 in Ottawa. Hey I would do anything to get rid of Vinny but I just don't think the Sens would do it
- 3flyerkids

Yeah, I don't think Vinny is brining us a serviceable player back under any circumstances.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 23 @ 8:15 AM ET
These guys make a ton of $ and live that life style ....and then $ stops. That's tough to handle.....that is a shock to the system.... not only the cash , but the change to everything these kids have ever known. With all the $ that is produced in Pro sports I hope one day that a focus is placed on life after the playing days are over. Far too, too many sad stories.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 23 @ 8:21 AM ET
This is how I think the front office should handle Vinny going forward.

They should tell Vinny that other than paying him they are removing themselves from the equation entirely. Tell him his agent can work with any team he wants but he has to negotiate with them. It's not about returns for or from the Flyers, its about what years Vinny is willing to walk away from with that contract. Tell him its either spending the remainder of his time here in the press box, on the planes, away from his family for nothing OR facilitate a trade where you come to an agreement that you walk away in a year or two tops because no one is touching you otherwise.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 23 @ 8:21 AM ET
hahahah

Edmonton, Where players go to not develop.

Look what happened when Dubnyk left. Sure looks good in Minnesota.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 23 @ 8:25 AM ET
Not winning the lottery was the last straw for me. How do you guys do it?
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Apr 23 @ 8:27 AM ET
These guys make a ton of $ and live that life style ....and then $ stops. That's tough to handle.....that is a shock to the system.... not only the cash , but the change to everything these kids have ever known. With all the $ that is produced in Pro sports I hope one day that a focus is placed on life after the playing days are over. Far too, too many sad stories.
- landros 2


And it's easy for those of us without that experience to sit back and judge.. saying things like "How can they do that?!".. but until you're in their shoes, you have no idea. Money, especially so much at such a young age, can really change a person. That new life becomes their way of life, and when that all changes at the drop of a hat, and you haven't been preparing for it, it can be a shocker. Your whole new way of life is gone, and now you have to adapt to an even newer one.

I'm sure it can be quite an experience... and not always in a good way.

We all like to sit in our glass houses... but things are always as simple as what we see from there.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Apr 23 @ 8:34 AM ET
They have the Hamburglar, and Lehner. Wasn't this Hammond kid 20-1-2 or something along those lines?
- PLindbergh31

I would be suprised if Hammond is back as #1 goalie. If they had a lot of faith in him, I think he would be in net for them now.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 23 @ 8:37 AM ET
If Berube was the issue or he needed time off for personal reasons, they should just rehire Reese.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 23 @ 8:42 AM ET
This is how I think the front office should handle Vinny going forward.

They should tell Vinny that other than paying him they are removing themselves from the equation entirely. Tell him his agent can work with any team he wants but he has to negotiate with them. It's not about returns for or from the Flyers, its about what years Vinny is willing to walk away from with that contract. Tell him its either spending the remainder of his time here in the press box, on the planes, away from his family for nothing OR facilitate a trade where you come to an agreement that you walk away in a year or two tops because no one is touching you otherwise.

- hereticpride


Yup, been saying this for months. His choices should be:
A. Having to attend every practice and go on every road trip as the 13th or 14th forward

B. Allow the Flyers to trade you to any team that will take you, assuming anyone will, and we'll retain max salary to help get the deal done.

C. Agree to mutually walk away from the contract. You are then free to sign with anyone

D. Retire

tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Apr 23 @ 8:42 AM ET
If Berube was the issue or he needed time off for personal reasons, they should just rehire Reese.
- Feanor


I wouldn't be averse to bringing Reese back. Hextall might be, however.

I have a feeling we'll never really know what happened.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Apr 23 @ 8:43 AM ET
This is how I think the front office should handle Vinny going forward.

They should tell Vinny that other than paying him they are removing themselves from the equation entirely. Tell him his agent can work with any team he wants but he has to negotiate with them. It's not about returns for or from the Flyers, its about what years Vinny is willing to walk away from with that contract. Tell him its either spending the remainder of his time here in the press box, on the planes, away from his family for nothing OR facilitate a trade where you come to an agreement that you walk away in a year or two tops because no one is touching you otherwise.

- hereticpride


I like your plan but a part of me wants too see if Vinny can play much better now that Berube is gone. No more excuses, a new coach and a fresh start....then if he is still playing like Sht we can install your plan or hope reality sinks in and he sails off into the sunset
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 23 @ 8:44 AM ET
I would be suprised if Hammond is back as #1 goalie. If they had a lot of faith in him, I think he would be in net for them now.
- 3flyerkids


Hammond's career numbers are pretty pedestrian. I think he was a guy who basically rode a once in a lifetime hot streak. I doubt that Ottawa is counting on him to be their #1 goalie going into next season.
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