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James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 2 @ 4:19 PM ET
James Tanner: Finishing Last Possible, Unlikely for Coyotes It's not impossible, it just probably won't happen.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 2 @ 4:25 PM ET
James Tanner: Finishing Last Possible, Unlikely for Coyotes
It's not impossible, it just probably won't happen.

- James_Tanner


Good blog. Plenty of Sabres fans, see it as the exact opposite. (not myself) They do not believe Arizona will get another point all year, which like you stated, i find hard to believe.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 2 @ 4:27 PM ET
James Tanner: Finishing Last Possible, Unlikely for Coyotes
It's not impossible, it just probably won't happen.

- James_Tanner


comforting words to many, my friend
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Apr 2 @ 4:33 PM ET
James Tanner: Finishing Last Possible, Unlikely for Coyotes
It's not impossible, it just probably won't happen.

- James_Tanner

Thanks Tanner.

Your words may have saved some from impending doom
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Apr 2 @ 4:36 PM ET
It's basically a toss up, same games remaining with a 2 pt separation. Still, I am hoping you are right
Bigern4MVP
Calgary Flames
Location: ON
Joined: 05.08.2014

Apr 2 @ 4:41 PM ET
srry for your loss Sabres fans, if james is predicting it it's not gonna happen
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Apr 2 @ 4:41 PM ET
Phoenix just started its rebuild. It would piss me off to see them win the draft lottery bcz buffalo has been rebuilding for 3 years now.
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Apr 2 @ 4:45 PM ET
Phoenix just started its rebuild. It would piss me off to see them win the draft lottery bcz buffalo has been rebuilding for 3 years now.
- joshs



Which makes it even more obvious they are tanking for a specific player.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 2 @ 4:46 PM ET
It's basically a toss up, same games remaining with a 2 pt separation. Still, I am hoping you are right
- IceColdBeer



Less than a toss up though because of schedule strength and the tie-breaker. If Arizona wins one game it's like 99% Buffalo wins. But right now, it's still probably really highly in Buffalo's favor just because of the odds that they'd win 4 of 7 AND lose one in OT are just so unlikely.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 2 @ 4:47 PM ET
Which makes it even more obvious they are tanking for a specific player.
- IceColdBeer


And Buffalo isnt? Dont act like this wasn't the plan for Buffalo. Murray eve said so himself before last years draft.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 2 @ 4:47 PM ET
Which makes it even more obvious they are tanking for a specific player.
- IceColdBeer


You can't say that. Arizona came into the year expecting to compete for a Playoff spot, but things went south really fast. I wrote a million times last year that they should have been tearing it down then and if they had of listened, they could have picked much higher than 12th last year at least.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 2 @ 4:48 PM ET
Which makes it even more obvious they are tanking for a specific player.
- IceColdBeer

Don't throw black pots in glass houses.
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Apr 2 @ 4:50 PM ET
Don't throw black pots in glass houses.
- Feds91Stammer



Just did. I don't think it's fair BUF has been getting crap just because some fans decided to cheer for AZ goals, claiming were tanking on purpose, when other teams are doing the same exact thing.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 2 @ 4:52 PM ET
Just did. I don't think it's fair BUF has been getting crap just because some fans decided to cheer for AZ goals, claiming were tanking on purpose, when other teams are doing the same exact thing.
- IceColdBeer

The difference is Buffalo had no intent of being a good team this year while Arizona, Edmonton, and Toronto all had playoff aspirations.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 2 @ 4:52 PM ET
Food for thought!

2014 - last place Buffalo, but second last Florida won the lottery.
2013 - last place Florida, but second last Colorado won the lottery.
2012 - last place Columbus, but second last Edmonton won the lottery.
2011 - last place Edmonton, but eighth last NJ won the lottery.

The past four years the last place team hasn't won the lottery, but, the second last has won 75% of the time??? Stay where you're at!!
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 2 @ 4:56 PM ET
Food for thought!

2014 - last place Buffalo, but second last Florida won the lottery.
2013 - last place Florida, but second last Colorado won the lottery.
2012 - last place Columbus, but second last Edmonton won the lottery.
2011 - last place Edmonton, but fourth last NJ won the lottery.

The past four years the last place team hasn't won the lottery, but, the second last has won 75% of the time??? Stay where you're at!!

- LeftCoaster

The reason why dead last is so important is it guarantees you McDavid or Eichel. There is no chance the NHL lottery shenanigans ruins it for you.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 2 @ 4:57 PM ET
Just did. I don't think it's fair BUF has been getting crap just because some fans decided to cheer for AZ goals, claiming were tanking on purpose, when other teams are doing the same exact thing.
- IceColdBeer



I don't either. I am openly cheering for AZ and TOR to lose and I find people who find that offensive to be ridiculous.
Snowblind
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.08.2014

Apr 2 @ 4:58 PM ET
Less than a toss up though because of schedule strength and the tie-breaker. If Arizona wins one game it's like 99% Buffalo wins. But right now, it's still probably really highly in Buffalo's favor just because of the odds that they'd win 4 of 7 AND lose one in OT are just so unlikely.
- James_Tanner


I agree with that mostly but it is statistically dubious to take into account results that have already occurred. Just because the roulette wheel has landed on red 10 times in a row, it doesn't make the next spin more likely to be black.

Just looking at the schedules, I don't see the Sabres getting 3 more points than the Yotes the rest of the way. There's no deader meat in the NHL in April than a team in the Sharks' position-- about to be eliminated after starting the season with Cup expectations. THEY might not win another game this season.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 2 @ 4:58 PM ET
Food for thought!

2014 - last place Buffalo, but second last Florida won the lottery.
2013 - last place Florida, but second last Colorado won the lottery.
2012 - last place Columbus, but second last Edmonton won the lottery.
2011 - last place Edmonton, but eighth last NJ won the lottery.

The past four years the last place team hasn't won the lottery, but, the second last has won 75% of the time??? Stay where you're at!!

- LeftCoaster


Well there is an 80% chance that last doesn't win lottery. The point is last guarantees you at least Eichel.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 2 @ 4:59 PM ET
I agree with that mostly but it is statistically dubious to take into account results that have already occurred. Just because the roulette wheel has landed on red 10 times in a row, it doesn't make the next spin more likely to be black.

Just looking at the schedules, I don't see the Sabres getting 3 more points than the Yotes the rest of the way. There's no deader meat in the NHL in April than a team in the Sharks' position-- about to be eliminated after starting the season with Cup expectations. THEY might not win another game this season.

- Snowblind



You are technically correct about games that already occured, but lets travel back a week. I tell you that the Sabres have to win four of seven and get at least one OT loss in there too, and ask you to give me odds.

Pretty sure you'd say 0.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 2 @ 4:59 PM ET
I don't either. I am openly cheering for AZ and TOR to lose and I find people who find that offensive to be ridiculous.
- James_Tanner


Don't hate the player, hate the game type deal. Sports are designed where if you aren't going to win it all complete failure is your best option.

It can never be changed though as much as people want it to because teams at the bottom would have very little chance of improving.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 2 @ 5:00 PM ET
Well there is an 80% chance that last doesn't win lottery. The point is last guarantees you at least Eichel.
- James_Tanner

I think Eichel is gonna be a helluva player!! If the Yotes are lucky enough to get him I'll be pretty happy!!
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 2 @ 5:00 PM ET
Food for thought!

2014 - last place Buffalo, but second last Florida won the lottery.
2013 - last place Florida, but second last Colorado won the lottery.
2012 - last place Columbus, but second last Edmonton won the lottery.
2011 - last place Edmonton, but eighth last NJ won the lottery.

The past four years the last place team hasn't won the lottery, but, the second last has won 75% of the time??? Stay where you're at!!

- LeftCoaster



So you are saying, last place is due...
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Apr 2 @ 5:00 PM ET
Food for thought!

2014 - last place Buffalo, but second last Florida won the lottery.
2013 - last place Florida, but second last Colorado won the lottery.
2012 - last place Columbus, but second last Edmonton won the lottery.
2011 - last place Edmonton, but eighth last NJ won the lottery.

The past four years the last place team hasn't won the lottery, but, the second last has won 75% of the time??? Stay where you're at!!

- LeftCoaster


I'd rather 100% chance of McEichel than 25% at neither.
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Apr 2 @ 5:01 PM ET
I don't either. I am openly cheering for AZ and TOR to lose and I find people who find that offensive to be ridiculous.
- James_Tanner



Some people don't realize you're still rooting for your team, just longer-term.
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