GARTH'S CORNER: Ducks In Pursuit Of Myers

I would hope if Myers goes to Anaheim, either Gibson or Andersen comes to Buffalo. Goaltending appears to be the biggest weakness in the Sabres prospect pool.

Bruce Garroich is one of the best sci-fi writers out there.

But did you suggest the Ducks move a great young dman and other assets for Meyers? That is even crazier than what Bruce writes.

This isn't fantasy hockey after all. Sammi Vaten and a first rounder is gross over payment but also another top prospect? That is nutso.

Has the losing streak caused dementia? Why pedal this stuff to hopeful fans? Meyers might get traded and he will cost a decent amount but when a GM robs Peter to pay Paul they tend do it in the form of future assets and not top prospects.

Consider last season the Blues gave up contracts a few draft picks and a questionable prospect not any of their top prospects by any degree. I recall you suggesting Schwartz or Tarasenko or even both. That would be filling one hole on the roster by creating another one.

This is also why most likely Tim Murray does not trade Meyers. Bob Murray is not a bad GM so why would he raise his cap while moving young cost controlled assets to do so and also assets that weaken his team? You move a young dman who has helped his team to the best record for one who has helped his team to the worst. That makes a lot of sense.

I would hope if Myers goes to Anaheim, either Gibson or Andersen comes to Buffalo. Goaltending appears to be the biggest weakness in the Sabres prospect pool.
- edmonton99

That might be more realistic but appears the Ducks plan is to get Gibson more starts in the minors and keeping Andersen around as a safety net. Once Gibson proves himself then I think they consider moving Andersen.

GARTH'S CORNER: Garth In Pursuit Of More Hits
- garth

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I would hope if Myers goes to Anaheim, either Gibson or Andersen comes to Buffalo. Goaltending appears to be the biggest weakness in the Sabres prospect pool.
- edmonton99

No interest in a young goalie as goalies are everywhere. Also, we've got a ton of goalies in the minors - one of them might pan out.

Is Vatanen and Ritchie for Myers a fair trade?

No interest in a young goalie as goalies are everywhere. Also, we've got a ton of goalies in the minors - one of them might pan out.

Is Vatanen and Ritchie for Myers a fair trade?
- Slump Buster

Not looking for a fair trade . Looking for a massive overpayment . We do not need a fair trade . There is no need to move Myers. He is signed to a very reasonable deal for long term. He is playing his best hockey in a few years.

Not looking for a fair trade . Looking for a massive overpayment . We do not need a fair trade . There is no need to move Myers. He is signed to a very reasonable deal for long term. He is playing his best hockey in a few years.
- Maximum Signal

I don't disagree with you at all. I just think that the two players alone is a significant return. Adding in the #1 might be ridiculous overpayment.

I don't disagree with you at all. I just think that the two players alone is a significant return. Adding in the #1 might be ridiculous overpayment.
- Slump Buster

That number 1 might as well be a second with the Duck's current position . Not ridiculous at all . The book is still out on Ritchie as well.

Ritchie, vatanen and a first?

jesus. cmon

Ritchie, vatanen and a first?

jesus. cmon
- Ihateallofu

Is it hard to understand the term overpayment? As per our GM that is what it requires to get Myers. I don't understand how it stymies other hockey fans, Same sort of payment Edmonton should get for Hall. A massive overpayment! You do not have to move him and he is the player Edmonton Management covets the most.

Bruce Garroich is one of the best sci-fi writers out there.

But did you suggest the Ducks move a great young dman and other assets for Meyers? That is even crazier than what Bruce writes.

This isn't fantasy hockey after all. Sammi Vaten and a first rounder is gross over payment but also another top prospect? That is nutso.

Has the losing streak caused dementia? Why pedal this stuff to hopeful fans? Meyers might get traded and he will cost a decent amount but when a GM robs Peter to pay Paul they tend do it in the form of future assets and not top prospects.

Consider last season the Blues gave up contracts a few draft picks and a questionable prospect not any of their top prospects by any degree. I recall you suggesting Schwartz or Tarasenko or even both. That would be filling one hole on the roster by creating another one.

This is also why most likely Tim Murray does not trade Meyers. Bob Murray is not a bad GM so why would he raise his cap while moving young cost controlled assets to do so and also assets that weaken his team? You move a young dman who has helped his team to the best record for one who has helped his team to the worst. That makes a lot of sense.
- BluemanGuruu

Vatanen and a 1st is an underpayment

Vatanen would probably look like a train wreck here, and Myers would probably be a star in Anaheim. There is a reason it's going to cost a fortune to get him, and it's not because he isn't good

Is it hard to understand the term overpayment? As per our GM that is what it requires to get Myers. I don't understand how it stymies other hockey fans, Same sort of payment Edmonton should get for Hall. A massive overpayment! You do not have to move him and he is the player Edmonton Management covets the most.
- Maximum Signal

I understand that you want an overpayment.

The point of my post was that you're not going to get that kind of package/overpayment for tyler myers. But of course you're welcome to ask whatever u want.
And assuming there some truth to this request, Bob Murray's answer would be;
Ritchie, vatanen and our first??! Cmon.


You guys keep saying overpayment cause we don't need to trade him. Sure then. So you'll be keeping him

"There may be a bidding war forming around Tyler Myers"

I understand that you want an overpayment.

The point of my post was that you're not going to get that kind of package/overpayment for tyler myers. But of course you're welcome to ask whatever u want.
And assuming there some truth to this request, Bob Murray's answer would be;
Ritchie, vatanen and our first??! Cmon.


You guys keep saying overpayment cause we don't need to trade him. Sure then. So you'll be keeping him
- Ihateallofu

I personally don't think Myers is worth Half of what they are asking for him.
He WILL be a star somewhere else?
Why isn't he yet in Buffalo?
Producing on the bad team is a sign of possible potential.
1 goal in 40+ games playing the Power Play is not potential.

A couple of goals might have bounced in by accident.

I personally don't think Myers is worth Half of what they are asking for him.
He WILL be a star somewhere else?
Why isn't he yet in Buffalo?
Producing on the bad team is a sign of possible potential.
1 goal in 40+ games playing the Power Play is not potential.

A couple of goals might have bounced in by accident.
- StargateSG1

Why do you guys think you judge a players value off a stat sheet. Especially on a bad team . You should ask scouts and GM's why they all covet him so. I think they will better answers than he only scored one goal on the power play.

I personally don't think Myers is worth Half of what they are asking for him.
He WILL be a star somewhere else?
Why isn't he yet in Buffalo?
Producing on the bad team is a sign of possible potential.
1 goal in 40+ games playing the Power Play is not potential.

A couple of goals might have bounced in by accident.
- StargateSG1

You are a Detroit fan, so you don't understand how a bad team works, but you are 100% wrong. How is he supposed to score playing the most defensive minutes on the worst possession team in the league?

He had 9 goals in 60 games last year on the lowest scoring team in the league when he wasn't asked to be a primarily defensive defensemen. What does that prorate out to on a normal team over 82 games..15 goals?

Why do you guys think you judge a players value off a stat sheet. Especially on a bad team . You should ask scouts and GM's why they all covet him so. I think they will better answers than he only scored one goal on the power play.



- Maximum Signal

I don't judge myers off just a stat sheet.
.

I don't talk to scouts. Nor care enough to email one.
Either way, I don't think it's a fact by any stretch every gm covets him as much as u think or garth suggests. I think hes got a rare tool set, but some very real question marks. I think if they did covet him as u say, he'd be moved already. I have no doubts all of col, det and Anaheim are interested. (Hell, i hope my oilers have enquired )
But What they're willing to pay and what ur asking are 2 different things imo.

End of the day, I don't think you'll be getting the massive overpayment you guys want. And if that's all you'll accept, thats your right. But my guess is that he'll remain a sabre until you bring the price down

The problem is your gm should have just said Myers is absolutely untouchable. At least that way we don't have the same argument every day. No gm is paying a first in the deepest draft since 03, a top 4 defender or 6 forward plus one of the best ranked prospects in hockey for Myers. If anyone even thought for a second he was the next chara, weber, Keith or whoever else you want to throw in then it shouldn't even be considered. You ever wonder why you never here what the cost of a weber would be ? Because there is no cost he isn't availablr and never will be.

Please make it STOP....the trade deadline can't get here soon enough.

How many times do we have to talk about this, Nobody wants a 6'8" defensemen that plays over 25 minutes a night with a -12 rating on the worst plus minus team (by 30 goals) in the league, we get it....great, now go away.

Anyone that thinks Myers isan't a very good defensemen has brain damage. Put him on Chicago/St Louis/Nashville and see what he would do. Having to play perfect is so easy in this league, we get it.

Good nobody wants him, We'll be happy to keep him.

move on

Bruce Garroich is one of the best sci-fi writers out there.

But did you suggest the Ducks move a great young dman and other assets for Meyers? That is even crazier than what Bruce writes.

This isn't fantasy hockey after all. Sammi Vaten and a first rounder is gross over payment but also another top prospect? That is nutso.

Has the losing streak caused dementia? Why pedal this stuff to hopeful fans? Meyers might get traded and he will cost a decent amount but when a GM robs Peter to pay Paul they tend do it in the form of future assets and not top prospects.

Consider last season the Blues gave up contracts a few draft picks and a questionable prospect not any of their top prospects by any degree. I recall you suggesting Schwartz or Tarasenko or even both. That would be filling one hole on the roster by creating another one.

This is also why most likely Tim Murray does not trade Meyers. Bob Murray is not a bad GM so why would he raise his cap while moving young cost controlled assets to do so and also assets that weaken his team? You move a young dman who has helped his team to the best record for one who has helped his team to the worst. That makes a lot of sense.
- BluemanGuruu

Your comments make a lot of sense, however, you have entered the 'Through the Looking Glass' world of Garth, where logic does not prevail.

Sabres GM Tim Murray was on local radio the other day,saying specifically that none of this 'Talk' of trading Myers is coming from the Sabres. The phones aren't even ringing. Yes, he will listen to offers on any of his players but nothing is going on.

In Garth-land this means an all out blitz of GM's willing to back their truck of assets up to the doors of First Niagara Center. 'Vatanen, Richie and a 1st' say the ducks and then Ken Holland says ' Well the Redwings won't be out done here...We'll give you Tatar, Mantha, a first and what the hell...Dylan Larkin'...

You are a Detroit fan, so you don't understand how a bad team works, but you are 100% wrong. How is he supposed to score playing the most defensive minutes on the worst possession team in the league?

He had 9 goals in 60 games last year on the lowest scoring team in the league when he wasn't asked to be a primarily defensive defensemen. What does that prorate out to on a normal team over 82 games..15 goals?
- sbroads24

now you're prorating stats as to what they'd be "on a good team?"


lmao, that's the most unsound argument I think I've heard in a while.

now you're prorating stats as to what they'd be "on a good team?"


lmao, that's the most unsound argument I think I've heard in a while.
- Isles_since_6

It's not an argument. It's a reason why he isn't scoring. It's not because he isn't capable. He has scored a good amount of goals in this league, as early as last season.

Can everyone please stop using the word "Covet" in these silly hockey trade discussions. I guess Garth is 'bringing it back' from the ten commandments...

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax...you're goddam right I'm living in the past!"---Walter Sobchak

I don't judge myers off just a stat sheet.
.

I don't talk to scouts. Nor care enough to email one.
Either way, I don't think it's a fact by any stretch every gm covets him as much as u think or garth suggests. I think hes got a rare tool set, but some very real question marks. I think if they did covet him as u say, he'd be moved already. I have no doubts all of col, det and Anaheim are interested. (Hell, i hope my oilers have enquired )
But What they're willing to pay and what ur asking are 2 different things imo.

End of the day, I don't think you'll be getting the massive overpayment you guys want. And if that's all you'll accept, thats your right. But my guess is that he'll remain a sabre until you bring the price down
- Ihateallofu

I do talk to pro scouts . I have a couple that are old friends . They are not with Buffalo . They are the ones that tell me lots of other teams covet him. For many reasons . The resounding quote I hear is you can't teach size especially with that skating ability. Believe what you want. Everyone thinks if they have a player with those tools they can turn him into a solid #1 for years to come.