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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Dec 15 @ 9:29 AM ET
John Jaeckel: Hawks Dial It Up In Third
FourOrr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Libertyville, IL
Joined: 01.26.2012

Dec 15 @ 9:41 AM ET
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I agreewith JJ that maybe the Hawks should keep Raanta and send Darling back to Rockford. First Raanta has shown he can play well after long layoffs and second Darling could use more games to get better at rebound control.
Sandus
Joined: 12.04.2009

Dec 15 @ 9:42 AM ET
Hypothetically, and I hope this won't be the case at all, but what happens if Crawford struggles a little bit to get back up to speed after coming back? Q has been known to ride the hot hand, even though we know Crow will be the guy come playoff time.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Dec 15 @ 9:57 AM ET
...maybe the Hawks should keep Raanta and send Darling back to Rockford. First Raanta has shown he can play well after long layoffs and second Darling could use more games to get better at rebound control.
- FourOrr


Agreed.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Dec 15 @ 10:01 AM ET
I think ,sometimes . They should rotate the 2 goalies back and forth to Rockford , unless wavers is a factor . Keep them both fresh , you know Coach Q is going to ride Crow . Nice 3rd period from a team playing back end of a back to back with travel .Toews looks great as always , they make them tough in Winnipeg ...
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Dec 15 @ 10:03 AM ET
.944 sv pct and 1.85 GAA for Raanta in the NHL this year over 6 games

Imagine the feeling knowing you played that well and that you might get sent down in favor of Darling, an ogre of a goalie (who is playing well, but not clearly better) who has been passed around more than a bread plate at dinner time in his career
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Dec 15 @ 10:10 AM ET
Among all goalies (qualified and non qualified) in the NHL, all three hawks goalies are in the top 9 for sv pct
nellie
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.07.2010

Dec 15 @ 10:36 AM ET
.944 sv pct and 1.85 GAA for Raanta in the NHL this year over 6 games

Imagine the feeling knowing you played that well and that you might get sent down in favor of Darling, an ogre of a goalie (who is playing well, but not clearly better) who has been passed around more than a bread plate at dinner time in his career

- FourFeathers773


Can't help but think that Raanta is the love child of Mike Veisor. Same size and circumstance.....a very competant young goalie who gets to play now and then behind the best defense in hockey. Darling leaves a lot of pucks bouncing around.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Dec 15 @ 10:38 AM ET
Competition for the #2 spot is a great thing. Best man will win.

It has been a while since the Hawks have had the luxury of quality goalies in numbers.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Dec 15 @ 10:41 AM ET
who knows might come down to $$$ and cap...hwks are right up against it now and carrying only 12 forwards, 7 dmen and the 3 goalies. Darling stays and they save $200,000 more. Suspect Nords comes back when the goalie is sent.

MNHawk
Location: Richfield, MN
Joined: 07.18.2014

Dec 15 @ 10:44 AM ET
who knows might come down to $$$ and cap...hwks are right up against it now and carrying only 12 forwards, 7 dmen and the 3 goalies. Darling stays and they save $200,000 more. Suspect Nords comes back when the goalie is sent.
- bogiedoc


Also, you must factor in TVR's salary once he comes back from LTIR. That's another $925k that hops right back on the salary cap.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Dec 15 @ 10:47 AM ET
who knows might come down to $$$ and cap...hwks are right up against it now and carrying only 12 forwards, 7 dmen and the 3 goalies. Darling stays and they save $200,000 more. Suspect Nords comes back when the goalie is sent.
- bogiedoc


Or the team could roll with 12 forwards/8 defensemen/2 goalies for a while for some extra cap savings.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Dec 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
Also, you must factor in TVR's salary once he comes back from LTIR. That's another $925k that hops right back on the salary cap.
- MNHawk


That's not happening until sometime in February or March, right?
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Dec 15 @ 10:50 AM ET
That's not happening until sometime in February or March, right?
- EKolb13


sounds about right...most likely March
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Dec 15 @ 10:53 AM ET
Also, you must factor in TVR's salary once he comes back from LTIR. That's another $925k that hops right back on the salary cap.
- MNHawk


Raanta goes = about $950,000 in cap space
Darling goes = about $750,000 in cap space

May not be that big of deal now...

my guess Rannta stays and Darling goes to play more..
MNHawk
Location: Richfield, MN
Joined: 07.18.2014

Dec 15 @ 10:53 AM ET
That's not happening until sometime in February or March, right?
- EKolb13


Yeah, that guesstimate works. I figure he comes back, Hawks send him down to Rockford to get back in the grove and bring him back up with about 5 games to go before the playoffs.

But then again, what do I know...
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Dec 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
Yeah, that guesstimate works. I figure he comes back, Hawks send him down to Rockford to get back in the grove and bring him back up with about 5 games to go before the playoffs.

But then again, what do I know...

- MNHawk


nothing....just like the rest of us.....
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Dec 15 @ 11:03 AM ET
nothing....just like the rest of us.....
- bogiedoc


That sounds about right. It's all just guesses from any of us at this point.
mrploves33
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2014

Dec 15 @ 11:17 AM ET
Or the team could roll with 12 forwards/8 defensemen/2 goalies for a while for some extra cap savings.
- EKolb13





RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Dec 15 @ 12:05 PM ET
That's not happening until sometime in February or March, right?
- EKolb13

Broken patella is quite a severe injury, my guess is we won't see TVR ready for action until playoff time or a week before the season ends. The salary cap means nothing by that point.

Adding Erixon is another backend depth move by Bowman to keep his total number of defenceman that can play if absolutely needed up at 9 or 10. We are only 35% thru the regular season.
mrploves33
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2014

Dec 15 @ 1:25 PM ET
Am I reading cap geek properly ? After the Morin deal the Hawks have 2.2 M AAV in cap space they can add at the deadline ???
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Dec 15 @ 1:30 PM ET
Am I reading cap geek properly ? After the Morin deal the Hawks have 2.2 M AAV in cap space they can add at the deadline ???
- mrploves33


TVR is LTIR, take his salary out of that 2.2 and thats likely accurate
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Dec 15 @ 1:41 PM ET
Solid win on some tired legs last night...

Saad really stepped it up last night. Thought the Erixon kid played a solid game and seemed to fit right in.

Minni up next tomorrow night.

Thought Raanta looked good again last night. I've been a fan of Darling's play as well. We'll see who gets sent down by the weekend...
mrploves33
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2014

Dec 15 @ 1:47 PM ET
TVR is LTIR, take his salary out of that 2.2 and thats likely accurate
- FourFeathers773



Ok then its 2.2-.925 . Thats not bad

Little over a million
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Dec 15 @ 1:49 PM ET
.944 sv pct and 1.85 GAA for Raanta in the NHL this year over 6 games

Imagine the feeling knowing you played that well and that you might get sent down in favor of Darling, an ogre of a goalie (who is playing well, but not clearly better) who has been passed around more than a bread plate at dinner time in his career

- FourFeathers773


Good points and personally if I was Raanta I would ask some serious questions about my future with this team. If I am going to be jockied around like this I would suggest look at trading me to say the Oilers or a team in need. If not he will have to hang in there and say goodbye when he becomes a free agent one day.
I love it when Raanta is in goal and I would trade Crawford and hand it over.
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