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Jason Lewis
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Dec 4 @ 11:43 AM ET
Jason Lewis: Taking a Look at the Martinez Extension
ryanzlakings
Los Angeles Kings
Location: San diego, CA
Joined: 07.13.2010

Dec 4 @ 11:55 AM ET
I can watch that winning goal all day all the time.
I agree on the value that It shouldn't be that high more of a 3 mil a season. The length should probably be a year less IMO.
arh777
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Yorba Linda, CA
Joined: 03.27.2012

Dec 4 @ 12:02 PM ET
Jason Lewis: Taking a Look at the Martinez Extension
- Jason_Lewis

Great signing by Lombardi! Martinez in my view was passing Voynov as the 3rd D on the team. They all have bad games. Look at Muzzin's game against the Bruins, he was brutal.
Jason Lewis
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Dec 4 @ 12:03 PM ET
I can watch that winning goal all day all the time.
I agree on the value that It shouldn't be that high more of a 3 mil a season. The length should probably be a year less IMO.

- ryanzlakings


You could make a case for it being 5 instead of 6 for sure. Probably would have been asking for a higher cap hit per though if that were the case. The art of negotiating.
fsanford
Joined: 10.28.2009

Dec 4 @ 12:27 PM ET
Can someone give me the cliff notes version of this blog.
Was Martinez paid too much or is it a great signing? Thx
Jason Lewis
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Dec 4 @ 12:31 PM ET
Can someone give me the cliff notes version of this blog.
Was Martinez paid too much or is it a great signing? Thx

- fsanford


I think you should read it yo. No cliff notes!
bluecoconuts
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.13.2010

Dec 4 @ 12:31 PM ET
Can someone give me the cliff notes version of this blog.
Was Martinez paid too much or is it a great signing? Thx

- fsanford


Up in the air, could go either way.




I'm not against the signing, especially if Voynov doesn't come back, giving us more room.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Dec 4 @ 12:48 PM ET
I watched the Flyers' defense last night versus the Ducks. Anyone on the fence about this signing and the need for quality, depth defensemen should watch that game.
Kings fan since72
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Hermosa Beach, CA
Joined: 10.30.2006

Dec 4 @ 1:06 PM ET
I like Amart. He deserves it. He should be paired with DD. DD is being screwed being with Muzzin as a top 2 D. If DD played with Amart or the likes of anyone like Suter or a Duncan Keith....DD would by far shine even more than he has. He is covering for the most mistake prone idiot D the Kings have. I am not sure what the coaches are seeing in him, and I don't care about all this statistical bs that peeps keep claiming about him, real hockey player fans know he is a big liability. I think with this signing, Kings trade Muzzin. Muzzin did not deserve that contract anyways, he is a 5th/6th D at best. I like Reghers toughness but hes slow and this is his last season on the Kings. I like Greenes leadership and toughness but hes slow and shows up some games and doesn't show in others. McNabb & McBain have done decent, I like them getn betr by the day and they are youth. IF the Voynov thang gets ironed out, that would help out big time. With the awesome D in the Kings system, this makes me think some of our D will be moved by deadline pending Voynov and many issues of the teams record at that time.
Send Muzzin packing. This is my opinion, so chill out hbuzzpeeps. Thx
Gretz2Kurri
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 01.19.2014

Dec 4 @ 1:20 PM ET
This deal is OK, a little on the high side, but he's earned it. It would be hard to let the guy walk after scoring the Chicago goal and the Finals goal. As far as this year is concerned almost every player on the team isn't doing to good so far. That will change, hopefully sooner rather than later, but I think this Kings team like's messing with it's fanbase, Thank God, we have Quick and Jones. They have been amazing.
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

Dec 4 @ 1:35 PM ET
I think we have the best blogger on this site
Ersberg
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 05.26.2009

Dec 4 @ 1:51 PM ET
Right money, right term. Good work, Deano. Nice comparison stat gathering, btw.
jacheech
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.12.2010

Dec 4 @ 1:56 PM ET
For some sadistic reason I watched that video. Six months later, it's still like getting kicked in the stones with an iron boot.
hiway39
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 03.01.2010

Dec 4 @ 2:16 PM ET
its not just who else is making 4mm as a comparable, but when they signed that deal too. 4mm for a top 4 (if he's that) isn't horrific in today's market. i'm sure there will be massive overbuying in the UFA market for D this summer.
dprice818
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 08.16.2011

Dec 4 @ 2:34 PM ET
its not just who else is making 4mm as a comparable, but when they signed that deal too. 4mm for a top 4 (if he's that) isn't horrific in today's market. i'm sure there will be massive overbuying in the UFA market for D this summer.
- hiway39

I'm good with this deal. Like you say, this summers contracts will show the value of it.
Jason Lewis
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Dec 4 @ 2:34 PM ET
I like Amart. He deserves it. He should be paired with DD. DD is being screwed being with Muzzin as a top 2 D. If DD played with Amart or the likes of anyone like Suter or a Duncan Keith....DD would by far shine even more than he has. He is covering for the most mistake prone idiot D the Kings have. I am not sure what the coaches are seeing in him, and I don't care about all this statistical bs that peeps keep claiming about him, real hockey player fans know he is a big liability. I think with this signing, Kings trade Muzzin. Muzzin did not deserve that contract anyways, he is a 5th/6th D at best. I like Reghers toughness but hes slow and this is his last season on the Kings. I like Greenes leadership and toughness but hes slow and shows up some games and doesn't show in others. McNabb & McBain have done decent, I like them getn betr by the day and they are youth. IF the Voynov thang gets ironed out, that would help out big time. With the awesome D in the Kings system, this makes me think some of our D will be moved by deadline pending Voynov and many issues of the teams record at that time.
Send Muzzin packing. This is my opinion, so chill out hbuzzpeeps. Thx

- Kings fan since72



lol what? Most mistake prone defenseman they Kings have?


Meh entitled to your opinion of course. A lot of stats are saying otherwise but agree to disagree.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 4 @ 2:36 PM ET
Solid player
Jason Lewis
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Dec 4 @ 2:36 PM ET
I think we have the best blogger on this site
- Deadmau55


Thanks so much! You guys tremendous readers that's for sure.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Dec 4 @ 2:58 PM ET
I like Amart. He deserves it. He should be paired with DD. DD is being screwed being with Muzzin as a top 2 D. If DD played with Amart or the likes of anyone like Suter or a Duncan Keith....DD would by far shine even more than he has. He is covering for the most mistake prone idiot D the Kings have. I am not sure what the coaches are seeing in him, and I don't care about all this statistical bs that peeps keep claiming about him, real hockey player fans know he is a big liability. I think with this signing, Kings trade Muzzin. Muzzin did not deserve that contract anyways, he is a 5th/6th D at best. I like Reghers toughness but hes slow and this is his last season on the Kings. I like Greenes leadership and toughness but hes slow and shows up some games and doesn't show in others. McNabb & McBain have done decent, I like them getn betr by the day and they are youth. IF the Voynov thang gets ironed out, that would help out big time. With the awesome D in the Kings system, this makes me think some of our D will be moved by deadline pending Voynov and many issues of the teams record at that time.
Send Muzzin packing. This is my opinion, so chill out hbuzzpeeps. Thx

- Kings fan since72

Disagree.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 4 @ 3:16 PM ET
Solid deal. The term makes this either great or terrible depending on how Martinez continues to play. As long he keeps up at least his current level of play I say its a good/great deal.
RobitailleFAN20
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA Kings fan since 1996. Favorite palyers Luc Robitaille & Rob Blake, CA
Joined: 06.22.2014

Dec 4 @ 4:21 PM ET
I like Amart. He deserves it. He should be paired with DD. DD is being screwed being with Muzzin as a top 2 D. If DD played with Amart or the likes of anyone like Suter or a Duncan Keith....DD would by far shine even more than he has. He is covering for the most mistake prone idiot D the Kings have. I am not sure what the coaches are seeing in him, and I don't care about all this statistical bs that peeps keep claiming about him, real hockey player fans know he is a big liability. I think with this signing, Kings trade Muzzin. Muzzin did not deserve that contract anyways, he is a 5th/6th D at best. I like Reghers toughness but hes slow and this is his last season on the Kings. I like Greenes leadership and toughness but hes slow and shows up some games and doesn't show in others. McNabb & McBain have done decent, I like them getn betr by the day and they are youth. IF the Voynov thang gets ironed out, that would help out big time. With the awesome D in the Kings system, this makes me think some of our D will be moved by deadline pending Voynov and many issues of the teams record at that time.
Send Muzzin packing. This is my opinion, so chill out hbuzzpeeps. Thx

- Kings fan since72

You're going to get a lot of people disagreeing with this statement, myself included
aloshenka
Los Angeles Kings
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2014

Dec 4 @ 4:33 PM ET
Great signing by Lombardi! Martinez in my view was passing Voynov as the 3rd D on the team. They all have bad games. Look at Muzzin's game against the Bruins, he was brutal.
- arh777


Well considering that Lombardi & management view Voynov as the 2nd best defenseman on this team... and actually came out and said he is in the top 30 in the league... all I have to say about your opinion is....
DERP!!!
PlayerX
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 08.14.2014

Dec 5 @ 1:18 PM ET
I like Amart. He deserves it. He should be paired with DD. DD is being screwed being with Muzzin as a top 2 D. If DD played with Amart or the likes of anyone like Suter or a Duncan Keith....DD would by far shine even more than he has. He is covering for the most mistake prone idiot D the Kings have. I am not sure what the coaches are seeing in him, and I don't care about all this statistical bs that peeps keep claiming about him, real hockey player fans know he is a big liability. I think with this signing, Kings trade Muzzin. Muzzin did not deserve that contract anyways, he is a 5th/6th D at best. I like Reghers toughness but hes slow and this is his last season on the Kings. I like Greenes leadership and toughness but hes slow and shows up some games and doesn't show in others. McNabb & McBain have done decent, I like them getn betr by the day and they are youth. IF the Voynov thang gets ironed out, that would help out big time. With the awesome D in the Kings system, this makes me think some of our D will be moved by deadline pending Voynov and many issues of the teams record at that time.
Send Muzzin packing. This is my opinion, so chill out hbuzzpeeps. Thx

- Kings fan since72


So what you want is 6 Drew Doughty's? Or wait, if Doughty is so getting screwed by being paired with Muzzin, why is it that Doughty was the one who practically demanded the pairing last year and speaks glowingly of the pairing in interviews this year? Cuz Doughty is stupid? Or maybe it's someone else that just does not get it. This opinion sounds like October 2013, not December 2014.
rubberduckies
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington beach, CA
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 6 @ 1:16 AM ET
You could make a case for it being 5 instead of 6 for sure. Probably would have been asking for a higher cap hit per though if that were the case. The art of negotiating.
- Jason_Lewis

Overpaid 4 years 12 mil maybe
Ersberg
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 05.26.2009

Dec 6 @ 3:33 AM ET
I like Amart. He deserves it. He should be paired with DD. DD is being screwed being with Muzzin as a top 2 D. If DD played with Amart or the likes of anyone like Suter or a Duncan Keith....DD would by far shine even more than he has. He is covering for the most mistake prone idiot D the Kings have. I am not sure what the coaches are seeing in him, and I don't care about all this statistical bs that peeps keep claiming about him, real hockey player fans know he is a big liability. I think with this signing, Kings trade Muzzin. Muzzin did not deserve that contract anyways, he is a 5th/6th D at best. I like Reghers toughness but hes slow and this is his last season on the Kings. I like Greenes leadership and toughness but hes slow and shows up some games and doesn't show in others. McNabb & McBain have done decent, I like them getn betr by the day and they are youth. IF the Voynov thang gets ironed out, that would help out big time. With the awesome D in the Kings system, this makes me think some of our D will be moved by deadline pending Voynov and many issues of the teams record at that time.
Send Muzzin packing. This is my opinion, so chill out hbuzzpeeps. Thx

- Kings fan since72


Yeah, all kinds of crazy here. Muzzin is top-4, possibly top-2. Why in the hell do you think the Kings are so tight on the back end? He's part of the reason. Muzzin is not the problem.
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