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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Nov 27 @ 3:11 PM ET
Jan Levine: Game 21: TB 4 NYR 3, Better Effort Than Last Time Teams Met, But Not Enough Too many miscues and mistakes doom Rangers
HankdaTank
New York Rangers
Location: Cut City, NJ
Joined: 04.10.2012

Nov 27 @ 4:22 PM ET
The Jekyll and Hyde act is growing thin, expectations were they would get up for last nights game, for one it was a chance at revenge and two it was St Louis' turn to return and steal the show which was just one of the disappointments, the fact that Callahan has gotten up for two games and the Rangers have treated as some throw away game up in Rochester is an embarrassment

Glass is deservedly a whipping boy, he's a detriment to the team, he just does not fit and there's no reason why he shouldn't be waived

He's not the only reason for the struggles, Kreiders has had a horribly slow start and needs to shyt or get off the pot, Staal had a terrible game as well, if the cap isn't moving I have no problem trading him and saving the cap space, he isn't showing his worth consistently
JackBurton37
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 10.03.2013

Nov 27 @ 4:47 PM ET
The Jekyll and Hyde act is growing thin, expectations were they would get up for last nights game, for one it was a chance at revenge and two it was St Louis' turn to return and steal the show which was just one of the disappointments, the fact that Callahan has gotten up for two games and the Rangers have treated as some throw away game up in Rochester is an embarrassment

Glass is deservedly a whipping boy, he's a detriment to the team, he just does not fit and there's no reason why he shouldn't be waived

He's not the only reason for the struggles, Kreiders has had a horribly slow start and needs to shyt or get off the pot, Staal had a terrible game as well, if the cap isn't moving I have no problem trading him and saving the cap space, he isn't showing his worth consistently

- HankdaTank


I agree that the inconsistencies game to game has run its course, and needs to be rectified now. But i would disaree with the idea that they didn't show up for this game. Their execution was lacking, especially on the PK and in slot/crease coverage, but their effort was 100% better than the 5-1 loss last week.
This game was lost (as most games are) because of a few key mistakes.
JackBurton37
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 10.03.2013

Nov 27 @ 4:56 PM ET
The Jekyll and Hyde act is growing thin, expectations were they would get up for last nights game, for one it was a chance at revenge and two it was St Louis' turn to return and steal the show which was just one of the disappointments, the fact that Callahan has gotten up for two games and the Rangers have treated as some throw away game up in Rochester is an embarrassment

Glass is deservedly a whipping boy, he's a detriment to the team, he just does not fit and there's no reason why he shouldn't be waived

He's not the only reason for the struggles, Kreiders has had a horribly slow start and needs to shyt or get off the pot, Staal had a terrible game as well, if the cap isn't moving I have no problem trading him and saving the cap space, he isn't showing his worth consistently

- HankdaTank

And as for Staal, I dont think we can afford to lose him. Boyle being on a 2 year deal is a perfect stop gap as Skeji develops, but who else can step in ? Moving any of our current blueliners leaves a less than optimal 3rd pairing.
My hope is that Staal, having seen the difference between how the Callahan and Girardi negotiations went will opt to stay a Ranger.
HankdaTank
New York Rangers
Location: Cut City, NJ
Joined: 04.10.2012

Nov 27 @ 5:49 PM ET
I agree that the inconsistencies game to game has run its course, and needs to be rectified now. But i would disaree with the idea that they didn't show up for this game. Their execution was lacking, especially on the PK and in slot/crease coverage, but their effort was 100% better than the 5-1 loss last week.
This game was lost (as most games are) because of a few key mistakes.

- JackBurton37

I'll agree that the effort was better than the first meeting but it was a drop off from the past two games and like Jan said it was a Myriad of mistakes which can't happen against a team like Tampa
evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking?
Joined: 01.29.2008

Nov 27 @ 7:30 PM ET
The Jekyll and Hyde act is growing thin, expectations were they would get up for last nights game, for one it was a chance at revenge and two it was St Louis' turn to return and steal the show which was just one of the disappointments, the fact that Callahan has gotten up for two games and the Rangers have treated as some throw away game up in Rochester is an embarrassment

Glass is deservedly a whipping boy, he's a detriment to the team, he just does not fit and there's no reason why he shouldn't be waived

He's not the only reason for the struggles, Kreiders has had a horribly slow start and needs to shyt or get off the pot, Staal had a terrible game as well, if the cap isn't moving I have no problem trading him and saving the cap space, he isn't showing his worth consistently

- HankdaTank


PLayed them alright at points in yesterdays game. I agree it's frustrating, but if they can start taking care of teams not named Tampa I will be happy. Tampa plays us well. Gotta get points against other teams. Starts with Philly.
OLDSCHOOL#6
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.14.2007

Nov 27 @ 7:31 PM ET
Jan Levine: Game 21: TB 4 NYR 3, Better Effort Than Last Time Teams Met, But Not Enough
Too many miscues and mistakes doom Rangers

- airjan23

Maybe, Callahan is just a terrific all around player, playing with an elite talent which only makes him better. Lay the body on him? That was his job, always came out on his 1st shift and put the body on someone.
way out west
Joined: 12.30.2008

Nov 27 @ 7:44 PM ET
I liked Callahan when he was a ranger and still like him but let's not forget he was a minus player in his ranger career . He got lost many a time in the defensive zone . He's finishing right now and good for him , I hope he does well in TB . I liked the trade when it happened and liked the way it panned out it the playoff run . I don't look back because there's nothing a guy can do about the pass but learn .
Why So Serious
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 09.12.2008

Nov 27 @ 7:50 PM ET
put any of us on a line with steven stamkos and i bet we get a few chances here and there
OLDSCHOOL#6
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.14.2007

Nov 27 @ 7:54 PM ET
I liked Callahan when he was a ranger and still like him but let's not forget he was a minus player in his ranger career . He got lost many a time in the defensive zone . He's finishing right now and good for him , I hope he does well in TB . I liked the trade when it happened and liked the way it panned out it the playoff run . I don't look back because there's nothing a guy can do about the pass but learn .
- way out west

Actually, Callahan was a whopping -1 for his career as a Ranger.
JackBurton37
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 10.03.2013

Nov 27 @ 8:18 PM ET
put any of us on a line with steven stamkos and i bet we get a few chances here and there
- Why So Serious

At least Callahan is better than Kunitz, but theyre in the same boat. A borderline top 6 forward playing with elite center who makes him better than their skill or effort would ever amount to on their own.
way out west
Joined: 12.30.2008

Nov 27 @ 8:48 PM ET
At least Callahan is better than Kunitz, but theyre in the same boat. A borderline top 6 forward playing with elite center who makes him better than their skill or effort would ever amount to on their own.
- JackBurton37

How do you think he's better than Kunitz ?
JackBurton37
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 10.03.2013

Nov 27 @ 8:51 PM ET
Maybe, Callahan is just a terrific all around player, playing with an elite talent which only makes him better. Lay the body on him? That was his job, always came out on his 1st shift and put the body on someone.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

True enough, but If Staal boxes him out , Cally nevr has a cance to deflect the second goal.
JackBurton37
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 10.03.2013

Nov 27 @ 8:56 PM ET
How do you think he's better than Kunitz ?
- way out west

Callahan is a full ice player, takes the body, blocks shots, plays in all situations, is a leader, not just for his team, but nationally too. Without an elite line mate, he puts up better than 20 goals and equal assists a season.

DrouinsDrone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Camel, FL
Joined: 11.22.2013

Nov 27 @ 10:33 PM ET
At least Callahan is better than Kunitz, but theyre in the same boat. A borderline top 6 forward playing with elite center who makes him better than their skill or effort would ever amount to on their own.
- JackBurton37

Your crazy if you think he's borderline top 6. He honestly is more consistent then Stammer. Stamkos is extremely hot and cold through stretches. With Cally u know what your getting game in and out.
BobbySchmautz
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 08.09.2011

Nov 27 @ 10:54 PM ET
PLayed them alright at points in yesterdays game. I agree it's frustrating, but if they can start taking care of teams not named Tampa I will be happy. Tampa plays us well. Gotta get points against other teams. Starts with Philly.
- evitageN


Maybe I'm wrong but Tampa doesn't really scare me; tho not sure
Why the rags have put in mediocre efforts vs them. Sure, they've got
Stamkos and some good -tho not great- forwards but their D isnt all that,
Nor is bishop really proven yet. If Cally and Stralman are cornerstones
To their team that should tell you something about the overall quality of their
Lineup as we were willing to part with both - feeling that we have
Other better options. I will admit I havent seen Hedman
Since his ascension but I think the Rags should be able to beat them
When they get their game firing on all cylinders.

tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 27 @ 10:56 PM ET
Maybe I'm wrong but Tampa doesn't really scare me; tho not sure
Why the rags have put in mediocre efforts vs them. Sure, they've got
Stamkos and some good -tho not great- forwards but their D isnt all that,
Nor is bishop really proven yet. If Cally and Stralman are cornerstones
To their team that should tell you something about the overall quality of their
Lineup as we were willing to part with both - feeling that we have
Other better options. I will admit I havent seen Hedman
Since his ascension but I think the Rags should be able to beat them
When they get their game firing on all cylinders.

- BobbySchmautz

They should because Callahan, Stamkos and Bishop kill them.
MeanestOfTimes
New York Rangers
Location: Huntington, NY
Joined: 03.19.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:17 AM ET
I liked Callahan when he was a ranger and still like him but let's not forget he was a minus player in his ranger career . He got lost many a time in the defensive zone . He's finishing right now and good for him , I hope he does well in TB . I liked the trade when it happened and liked the way it panned out it the playoff run . I don't look back because there's nothing a guy can do about the pass but learn .
- way out west

I was completely on board with the trade when it happened and still am, but let's not pretend like there wasn't a forward we preferred to have on the ice in a defensive scenario than Cally.

People may hate Corsi/Fenwick stats, but +/- is still the dumbest (frank)ing stat to determine a players worth.

Fact is Cally is playing wing alongside the most probable Rocket Richard finalist for the next 10 years barring injury. It shouldn't be surprising to anyone for him to become a 60-65pt player based on an almost guaranteed 40 assists.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 28 @ 7:48 AM ET
Maybe I'm wrong but Tampa doesn't really scare me; tho not sure
Why the rags have put in mediocre efforts vs them. Sure, they've got
Stamkos and some good -tho not great- forwards but their D isnt all that,
Nor is bishop really proven yet. If Cally and Stralman are cornerstones
To their team that should tell you something about the overall quality of their
Lineup as we were willing to part with both - feeling that we have
Other better options. I will admit I havent seen Hedman
Since his ascension but I think the Rags should be able to beat them
When they get their game firing on all cylinders.

- BobbySchmautz

Theure one of the deepest teams in the league. Have great goaltending along with defense. The Rangers may agree with your sentiment the way they've played them. Itd probably be a good idea to change that way of thought they're for real.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Nov 28 @ 9:01 AM ET
I just want to go a stretch of games where we have our full team before we make any rash decisions or start shipping people out.

Today, finally, we play our first game of the season with our full squad with the return of Mac Truck.

Thank mutha phuckin goodness yo
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Nov 28 @ 9:31 AM ET
I just want to go a stretch of games where we have our full team before we make any rash decisions or start shipping people out.

Today, finally, we play our first game of the season with our full squad with the return of Mac Truck.

Thank mutha phuckin goodness yo

- jimbro83

I am going to the game today...pretty pumped to see the full squad.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Nov 28 @ 9:33 AM ET
I am going to the game today...pretty pumped to see the full squad.
- TPC


nice, watch out for the drunkards
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Nov 28 @ 10:11 AM ET
nice, watch out for the drunkards
- jimbro83

Hopefully the 3rd Kreider goal today will shut them all up
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Nov 28 @ 10:23 AM ET
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