Jared Crozier: Complete Effort Results In Late Win Against Blues; Sens Value; ALFIE

If me old buddy goalfie11 doesn't show up for December 4, I'll be sorely disappointed

alfred= forever a red wing.

alfred= forever a red wing.
- Jurco_28

Oh, stop playing around you big Jurco

I have to admit that these posts always slightly annoyed me... But only because you call him Alfred

alfie...is....king........team will be pumped

alfred= forever a red wing.
- Jurco_28

Batman's butler played for the Wings..? Huh, had no clue

Jared Crozier: Complete Effort Results In Late Win Against Blues; Sens Value; ALFIE
- JaredCrozier

Yes MacLean got the W with the lines he iced. Condra had a solid game but, anyone who thinks Colin Greening had a positive impact on this game is mistaken. The guy simply looks bush league with the puck on his stick. He isn't very good on the boards battling for the puck despite his size. And he turns the puck over a lot. The only positive i can say about him is he had 3 hits last night. Ottawa won't take the next step to contension until these replacable players stop taking up important spots in our bottom 6.

alfred= forever a red wing.
- Jurco_28

You take that back! It didn't mean anything to him! He loves US!

Oh, stop playing around you big Jurco

I have to admit that these posts always slightly annoyed me... But only because you call him Alfred
- Mr_Clean

i know it still gets to some of u guys. like that other poster.

still could of used his right handed shot, specially on the PP. till Mantha arrives.

Great effort, great game.

During the off season I was open to including Hoffman as an add on in any deal for a power forward. Would have been a huge mistake. I think he is going to get even better. Some really amazing moves.

This team will be stronger in the second half of the season.

Not sure how the Methot situation gets finally resolved. Borowiecki might be out for a few games so the roster has an opening.

I'm not surprised by Condra's game at all.

I honestly don't understand why he's been scratched so many times this season. The guy is a perfect 4th liner. He's fast, he wins the majority of puck battles, he rarely turns it over and he PK's well. He can't score for crap, but it doesn't seem like anyone in our bottom 6 can anyways.

Why wouldn't you want someone like that in the lineup over:
Neil
Greening
Legwand

sometimes even Michalek

There should have been a spot in the starting 12 forwards for Condra all season long. Maybe with him on the 4th line, they wouldn't spend the entire shift in their own end.

Chiasson is good. He goes to the right places around the net.

I'm not surprised by Condra's game at all.

I honestly don't understand why he's been scratched so many times this season. The guy is a perfect 4th liner. He's fast, he wins the majority of puck battles, he rarely turns it over and he PK's well. He can't score for crap, but it doesn't seem like anyone in our bottom 6 can anyways.

Why wouldn't you want someone like that in the lineup over:
Neil
Greening
Legwand

sometimes even Michalek

There should have been a spot in the starting 12 forwards for Condra all season long. Maybe with him on the 4th line, they wouldn't spend the entire shift in their own end.
- Charliebox

I agree that Condra is a positive addition. He does his job well. There is no win last night without Condra in the line up.

I'm not surprised by Condra's game at all.

I honestly don't understand why he's been scratched so many times this season. The guy is a perfect 4th liner. He's fast, he wins the majority of puck battles, he rarely turns it over and he PK's well. He can't score for crap, but it doesn't seem like anyone in our bottom 6 can anyways.

Why wouldn't you want someone like that in the lineup over:
Neil
Greening
Legwand

sometimes even Michalek

There should have been a spot in the starting 12 forwards for Condra all season long. Maybe with him on the 4th line, they wouldn't spend the entire shift in their own end.
- Charliebox

To be fair, greening has been scratched a long side him most games.

Niel wont be scratched with thta A on his chest.

Legwand was just signed to a 2 year deal, they aren`t going to scratch him either.

Michalek is *supposed* to be a top 9 forward. Just not playing like it.

Gotta admit, wasn't able to catch the last period of this one. Almost shocked to wake up and see them snag a win. Definitely something to build on, especially in a back-to-back situation.

Man, did Gryba ever get owned in that fight. He should just stick to the occasional crushing hit, he doesn't seem like much of a fighter.

To be fair, greening has been scratched a long side him most games.

Niel wont be scratched with thta A on his chest.

Legwand was just signed to a 2 year deal, they aren`t going to scratch him either.

Michalek is *supposed* to be a top 9 forward. Just not playing like it.
- david22

I get it. The problem is that the Sens are a bubble team this year. If we want to make the playoffs, we are going to have to make tough (and unpopular) decisions from time to time.

Instead of excuses about letters or money or whatever, how about we just ice the lineup that gives us the best chance to win.

At the end of the day, Greening should NEVER play another game for the Sens. If we take him out of the mix, it's only one healthy body we need to scratch up front every game. We are bound to get an injury on forward sooner or later anyways.

Edit: has anyone watched Neil this season? He is not the same guy at all. He shies away from contact, never wins a puck battle and hasn't thrown any big hits this year. He's been in like 2 fights. Wasted roster spot at this point. Maybe being scratched for a few games is a wake-up-call he needs.

Edit: has anyone watched Neil this season? He is not the same guy at all. He shies away from contact, never wins a puck battle and hasn't thrown any big hits this year. He's been in like 2 fights. Wasted roster spot at this point. Maybe being scratched for a few games is a wake-up-call he needs.
- Charliebox

I have been commenting the last couple of weeks that Neil is done. The team would be significantly better with Condra playing and Neil out.

He is too slow. He can't hit anymore because he can't catch guys. He takes a dumb penalty almost every game. He contributes no offense and is terrible in the defensive zone.

I know he has been a warrior for this franchise and wears the 'A'. But he is hurting the team on the ice now.

Greening is brutal.

Condra, on the other hand, should be playing 82 games a year for this team. You couldn't ask for a better soldier, he doesn't have to play a ton, but when he does play, he helps them win, or at worst, contributes in his own quiet way. One thing he doesn't often do is hurt the team. I suppose missing open nets is painful, but you're not playing him to score, so any goals he gets are just a bonus.

Get him in the lineup every single night, and the team will be better.

Last year's biggest problem with Greening-Smith-Neil, and the ice time they got. Greening is honestly just so bad, I can't even deal with it. Neil is certainly not the player he once was, which makes sense at his age with the mileage and whatnot. And Smith, well, he's an overrated pugilist. His skating is weak, he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with that shot, he's just not valuable enough to play.

MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
Hoffman-Lazar-Stone
xxxx-Zibanejad-Chiasson
Michalek-Legwand-Condra

Nothing wrong with that group. Just get Greening-Smith-Neil as far away from the arena as possible. Call someone up to play LW with Zibanejad and Chiasson.

St. Louis seems to take their strategy from the old Chris Pronger handbook of "they can't call them all" because they have assembled a chippy, often dirty team that continuously jabs at their opponents and will risk the odd penalty to do so.
- JaredCrozier

This is how the Blues have determined they need to play to compete in today's Western Conference.

I just wish they had the killer instinct to be able to finish off an opponent and not take their foot off the gas.

Good effort for Ottawa last night to continue to compete in the third period of a back to back.

Solid effort last night. Good to see Ryan play well and get some credit. He's been one of the best players on the team most nights. The points will come.

Still baffled at this Legwand business. He simply isn't good. He got outplayed for loose puck against Oshie, who didn't even have a stick on the 2nd Blues goal. I'm sure all these ageing veterans have some value off the ice, but on the ice, there is very little.

As much as I love Alfie, I hope they don't go overboard on a simple retirement announcement. Postponing an announcement that everyone know is going to happen is a little silly in the first place. Put on a good show next season to retire his jersey and everyone will be happy.

I get it. The problem is that the Sens are a bubble team this year. If we want to make the playoffs, we are going to have to make tough (and unpopular) decisions from time to time.

Instead of excuses about letters or money or whatever, how about we just ice the lineup that gives us the best chance to win.

At the end of the day, Greening should NEVER play another game for the Sens. If we take him out of the mix, it's only one healthy body we need to scratch up front every game. We are bound to get an injury on forward sooner or later anyways.

Edit: has anyone watched Neil this season? He is not the same guy at all. He shies away from contact, never wins a puck battle and hasn't thrown any big hits this year. He's been in like 2 fights. Wasted roster spot at this point. Maybe being scratched for a few games is a wake-up-call he needs.
- Charliebox

Teams win on the basis of their top 6 forwards, top 2 D and a good goaltender. Those are essentially the guys who determine your success or failure.

Ottawa is missing a top D man. Ceci and Cowen are close. Both had good games last night. Add Methot into the mix and they are in good shape.

Top 6 is missing a power forward. Loved Bobby Ryan's game last night. But I don't think he is the long term solution for this team. Right now I have Turiris, MacArthur, Chiasson and Hoffman as good top 6 skaters. I am looking for 2 more. Stone is very close.

MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
Hoffman-Lazar-Stone
xxxx-Zibanejad-Chiasson
Michalek-Legwand-Condra

Nothing wrong with that group. Just get Greening-Smith-Neil as far away from the arena as possible. Call someone up to play LW with Zibanejad and Chiasson.
- the_terror

I would slot Smith on that third line. It is debatable whether he or Zibanejad should be the guy playing the wing.

I think Smith still brings some good things to the team. He can skate and can add some team toughness. He hasn't looked great but he has been dragged down by always playing with Neil (and Greening when he is in there). I think on his own with better linemates he would be fine.

Greening is brutal.

Condra, on the other hand, should be playing 82 games a year for this team. You couldn't ask for a better soldier, he doesn't have to play a ton, but when he does play, he helps them win, or at worst, contributes in his own quiet way. One thing he doesn't often do is hurt the team. I suppose missing open nets is painful, but you're not playing him to score, so any goals he gets are just a bonus.

Get him in the lineup every single night, and the team will be better.

Last year's biggest problem with Greening-Smith-Neil, and the ice time they got. Greening is honestly just so bad, I can't even deal with it. Neil is certainly not the player he once was, which makes sense at his age with the mileage and whatnot. And Smith, well, he's an overrated pugilist. His skating is weak, he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with that shot, he's just not valuable enough to play.

MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
Hoffman-Lazar-Stone
xxxx-Zibanejad-Chiasson
Michalek-Legwand-Condra

Nothing wrong with that group. Just get Greening-Smith-Neil as far away from the arena as possible. Call someone up to play LW with Zibanejad and Chiasson.
- the_terror

Everybody agrees, but the fact remains that Neil will not get healthy scratched. He has to be in the lineup, for principle, or whatever??

Shawn Simpson made an interesting comment this morning about trading Anderson for Eberle. You can't help but think about the thoughts of this top 6:

MacArthur - Turris - Stone
Ryan - Lazar - Eberle

Teams win on the basis of their top 6 forwards, top 2 D and a good goaltender. Those are essentially the guys who determine your success or failure.

Ottawa is missing a top D man. Ceci and Cowen are close. Both had good games last night. Add Methot into the mix and they are in good shape.

Top 6 is missing a power forward. Loved Bobby Ryan's game last night. But I don't think he is the long term solution for this team. Right now I have Turiris, MacArthur, Chiasson and Hoffman as good top 6 skaters. I am looking for 2 more. Stone is very close.
- spatso

Good post. The things missing in the organization I don't feel are in the system, particularly up front. We have good pieces for depth of a strong team. We are missing the star power, if you will, up front. Sooner rather than later a move for a big name will have to happen.

Everybody agrees, but the fact remains that Neil will not get healthy scratched. He has to be in the lineup, for principle, or whatever??

Shawn Simpson made an interesting comment this morning about trading Anderson for Eberle. You can't help but think about the thoughts of this top 6:

MacArthur - Turris - Stone
Ryan - Lazar - Eberle


- Jordo

I would love to see that. It would take a lot more than Anderson though. He would have to be part of a package to get a guy with Eberle's upside.

I think you would be talking Anderson, Methot and a 2nd round pick.....at least.