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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Nov 23 @ 11:41 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Islanders Expose Penguins Current Forward Depth
nateca44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: butler, PA
Joined: 01.16.2008

Nov 23 @ 11:48 AM ET
How dare you mention a trade. People around here seem fine with playing 4th line wingers with Sid and Malkin. It seems like they don't understand that you have to give to get. I've never really seen perron play, who does he resemble and who would he fit with?
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Nov 23 @ 11:51 AM ET
How dare you mention a trade. People around here seem fine with playing 4th line wingers with Sid and Malkin. It seems like they don't understand that you have to give to get. I've never really seen perron play, who does he resemble and who would he fit with?
- nateca44


I think him and Bennett have similar styles
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Nov 23 @ 11:54 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Islanders Expose Penguins Current Forward Depth
- Ryan_Wilson



Nice write up &

The Islanders are for real. - thank you for the acknowledgement .....
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 23 @ 11:59 AM ET
How would bortuzzo help Edmonton? They need a lot more than a bottom pairing defenseman.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:11 PM ET
How would bortuzzo help Edmonton? They need a lot more than a bottom pairing defenseman.
- Isles_since_6


You know how those Alberta teams seem to overvalue toughness and stuff... I don't think that he'd the the center piece of any deal, but I think that Edmonton might be more excited about that part of his game than they should be, and could add some value to a trade.
rkrichter2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:13 PM ET
Deja Vu. Seriously. This has been the same issue with this team for years now, but for some reason management never trades any dmen for forwards.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:22 PM ET
I didn't go back and read anything from the last couple of days, I'm sure it was all level headed and full of patience

Ryan is right, Downie is what he is... We were all under the impression that Tocchet could reel him in, but that doesn't seem possible. At least he only has a one year deal. Still a decent enough hockey player, but his ice time needs cut down drastically late in close games. Either he'll do something stupid and take a penalty, or he will be involved in a physical play and end up getting an extra minor for being Steve Downie.

Islanders are a good hockey team... they have replaced the Flyers in my mind as a team that I'd want to avoid in the playoffs. However, it did seem like the Islanders get up easier for a November game against the Pens than the Pens do against the Islanders. Hopefully that motivation is better for the Pens in the playoffs.
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:45 PM ET
Mac looking for a top center for Perron, per Dreger. I guess we'll see.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 23 @ 12:45 PM ET
You know how those Alberta teams seem to overvalue toughness and stuff... I don't think that he'd the the center piece of any deal, but I think that Edmonton might be more excited about that part of his game than they should be, and could add some value to a trade.
- rival22

Their problem seems to be a lack of talent on the blue line, they have a ton of bottom pairing guys, they need more top tier talent, a second line center and a coach who can actually get through to their kids that they need to be more responsible with the puck and play a tighter defensive game. Actually, there's a lot more issues there as well. I feel bad for oilers fans. They don't deserve that.
SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Nov 23 @ 12:59 PM ET
If you guys need a forward you can have Tyler Kenndy back, deal? Still can't believe we gave a 2nd rd pick for him
BOSS_TWEED
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: S. Jersey
Joined: 11.07.2006

Nov 23 @ 1:04 PM ET
The Islanders issues over the past 15 years or so are well-documented. However, it was just a matter of time until their young talent came to fruition. They are absolutely on the right track and should only get better as they mature. This is all good news for a battered fanbase. The hard-core Isles fans deserve better.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Nov 23 @ 1:07 PM ET
If you guys need a forward you can have Tyler Kenndy back, deal? Still can't believe we gave a 2nd rd pick for him
- SJSharks39


I'll take him back if you'll take Rob Scuderi in return
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Nov 23 @ 1:11 PM ET
The Islanders issues over the past 15 years or so are well-documented. However, it was just a matter of time until their young talent came to fruition. They are absolutely on the right track and should only get better as they mature. This is all good news for a battered fanbase. The hard-core Isles fans deserve better.
- BOSS_TWEED


Big move was getting an actual NHL capable goaltender this summer too. Garth Snow gets some abuse for a couple of his missteps, but overall he's put a good team together, and has locked up some very good players with great cap hits.
SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Nov 23 @ 1:13 PM ET
I'll take him back if you'll take Rob Scuderi in return
- rival22

You can keep that bad contract
Micmaz34
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 23 @ 1:15 PM ET
Say Yes to Evander Kane! Perfect fit for this team.
edmhatescal
Edmonton Oilers
Location: NY
Joined: 11.08.2011

Nov 23 @ 1:19 PM ET
You know how those Alberta teams seem to overvalue toughness and stuff... I don't think that he'd the the center piece of any deal, but I think that Edmonton might be more excited about that part of his game than they should be, and could add some value to a trade.
- rival22

Nope
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Nov 23 @ 1:20 PM ET
I'll never doubt Dupuis in anything... He's made a career out of proving people wrong.

He's on blood thinners for 6 months, if all goes well, that gets him done in mid May. Imagine how big of a lift that would be to get him back to start a conference final series?

(I know, a ton of "ifs" in that scenario, but that would be awesome!)
edmhatescal
Edmonton Oilers
Location: NY
Joined: 11.08.2011

Nov 23 @ 1:21 PM ET
Their problem seems to be a lack of talent on the blue line, they have a ton of bottom pairing guys, they need more top tier talent, a second line center and a coach who can actually get through to their kids that they need to be more responsible with the puck and play a tighter defensive game. Actually, there's a lot more issues there as well. I feel bad for oilers fans. They don't deserve that.
- Isles_since_6

This is a good assessment. I feel Eakins is doing what he can with what he has. The team is a mess and he can't win with it.
The reason there hasn't been any trades I'm thinking is because all the teams are trying to lowball the oilers, just like this blog wants too. And why wouldnt they?
Mact knows what we need. He'll us armchair gm's know; but he's not going to make a deal to make us worse
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Nov 23 @ 1:39 PM ET
If you guys need a forward you can have Tyler Kenndy back, deal? Still can't believe we gave a 2nd rd pick for him
- SJSharks39


minor revenge for giving you 2 2nds for murray
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Nov 23 @ 1:56 PM ET
I'll never doubt Dupuis in anything... He's made a career out of proving people wrong.

He's on blood thinners for 6 months, if all goes well, that gets him done in mid May. Imagine how big of a lift that would be to get him back to start a conference final series?

(I know, a ton of "ifs" in that scenario, but that would be awesome!)

- rival22


It wouldn't shock me, either.
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Nov 23 @ 2:06 PM ET
This is a good assessment. I feel Eakins is doing what he can with what he has. The team is a mess and he can't win with it.
The reason there hasn't been any trades I'm thinking is because all the teams are trying to lowball the oilers, just like this blog wants too. And why wouldnt they?
Mact knows what we need. He'll us armchair gm's know; but he's not going to make a deal to make us worse

- edmhatescal



lowball, depres and doumalin for perron is not lowballin in my opinion. dudes got like 2 goals.
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Nov 23 @ 2:08 PM ET
Perron called out the Oilers the other day and rumours are sprouting of him maybe being on the move.
haymac
Edmonton Oilers
Location: NWT
Joined: 09.17.2011

Nov 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
This is a good assessment. I feel Eakins is doing what he can with what he has. The team is a mess and he can't win with it.
The reason there hasn't been any trades I'm thinking is because all the teams are trying to lowball the oilers, just like this blog wants too. And why wouldnt they?
Mact knows what we need. He'll us armchair gm's know; but he's not going to make a deal to make us worse

- edmhatescal

Eakins is in over his head. He keeps changing line combos and D pairings desperately hoping that something clicks, but doesn't leave any together long enough to gauge if they work. He had new players this year but still kept AHL guys on the team right to the last pre-season game when better teams had gotten down to their opening night rosters for the last week to get ready for the opener. He continually makes excuses for his players poor performances without holding them accountable. His NHL inexperience is not what the Oil needed but that's just 1 of the many things wrong with the group that management put together. Getting an experienced NHL coach in place of Eakins has to be part of the solution going forward IMO.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Nov 23 @ 2:19 PM ET
Is perron really the top 6 guy pens would be looking for? I just don't see it... idk...

Anyway pens can add to sutter doumolin and get yak too? Add mayb a pick and harrington and pick?
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