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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Nov 20 @ 9:14 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Penguins Family Suffers Yet Another Medical Blow Penguins Family Suffers Yet Another Medical Blow
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Nov 20 @ 9:28 AM ET
Still bummed about Dupuis. I hope he can make a full recovery and I am with you on this, he has a young and big family to think about. I hope he does what is best for him.

I do think if there was a time to strike on a legit forward it is now. I am not afraid of going for Yakupov either. I just wonder what it would take at this point. A 1st, legit prospect like Harrington, and something else sprinkled in?

Do they even want the 1st? Would they try to go after one of our young center prospects? Tough to say. I would think Harrington, a first, and a mid level center prospect could do the trick.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Nov 20 @ 9:31 AM ET
I doubted Duper coming back after his knee surgery, and was proven wrong. I hope that same thing happens with his latest ailment. Duper is a class act.

(Carry over post)

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, which works out very nicely for me because im wrong a hell of a lot; most recently Sutturd, and as long as he keeps playing the way he is I have no problem admitting that.


The MAF bashing specifically bothers me because, he was very obviously a victim of circumstance. Over playing shots and misplaying the puck, 2 glaringly obvious things that are a direct result of trying to do too much because he was getting little to no help. Flower is a very polarizing player and I honestly believe that it has nothing to do with his play. I don't care what kind of crap I get for saying this, but the people that don't like MAF, have made that decision because he is the most obvious person to blame for an underachieving hockey club. If anyone's stats should mean nothing its a goalies.


Here in Pittsburgh fans have some very easy "go to" scape goats, Baseball "management sucks, sell um to Cuban", Football " Quarterback sucks put in the back up", Hockey " Goalie sucks, start the back up". It has sadly been this way for a long time.

Watch the game, watch Flower's skill set, his athleticism and reflexes are unmatched. He will prove it this year, like he has in the past; under a real hockey coach; that employs a real system, that supports his net minder.

F Cuban
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Nov 20 @ 9:38 AM ET
I doubted Duper coming back after his knee surgery, and was proven wrong. I hope that same thing happens with his latest ailment. Duper is a class act.

(Carry over post)

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, which works out very nicely for me because im wrong a hell of a lot; most recently Sutturd, and as long as he keeps playing the way he is I have no problem admitting that.


The MAF bashing specifically bothers me because, he was very obviously a victim of circumstance. Over playing shots and misplaying the puck, 2 glaringly obvious things that are a direct result of trying to do too much because he was getting little to no help. Flower is a very polarizing player and I honestly believe that it has nothing to do with his play. I don't care what kind of crap I get for saying this, but the people that don't like MAF, have made that decision because he is the most obvious person to blame for an underachieving hockey club. If anyone's stats should mean nothing its a goalies.


Here in Pittsburgh fans have some very easy "go to" scape goats, Baseball "management sucks, sell um to Cuban", Football " Quarterback sucks put in the back up", Hockey " Goalie sucks, start the back up". It has sadly been this way for a long time.

Watch the game, watch Flower's skill set, his athleticism and reflexes are unmatched. He will prove it this year, like he has in the past; under a real hockey coach; that employs a real system, that supports his net minder.

F Cuban

- nbartley9

Right on Bartsy.

Th thing with Flower is that he made some personal/technical mistakes in a couple past playoffs that had nothing or very little to do with the defensive scheme. I'm talking about the behind the goal goal putting the puck in his own net. That's the only problem I had with him but I think he's been much much better since last year. He's been great!

MAF!
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Nov 20 @ 9:42 AM ET
Right on Bartsy.

Th thing with Flower is that he made some personal/technical mistakes in a couple past playoffs that had nothing or very little to do with the defensive scheme. I'm talking about the behind the goal goal putting the puck in his own net. That's the only problem I had with him but I think he's been much much better since last year. He's been great!

MAF!

- Barnaby36

But don't you think that could be attributed to him being scared of what would happen in his own zone if he didn't make a play on that puck? Because of the lack of defensive help?
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Nov 20 @ 9:44 AM ET
I doubted Duper coming back after his knee surgery, and was proven wrong. I hope that same thing happens with his latest ailment. Duper is a class act.

(Carry over post)

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, which works out very nicely for me because im wrong a hell of a lot; most recently Sutturd, and as long as he keeps playing the way he is I have no problem admitting that.


The MAF bashing specifically bothers me because, he was very obviously a victim of circumstance. Over playing shots and misplaying the puck, 2 glaringly obvious things that are a direct result of trying to do too much because he was getting little to no help. Flower is a very polarizing player and I honestly believe that it has nothing to do with his play. I don't care what kind of crap I get for saying this, but the people that don't like MAF, have made that decision because he is the most obvious person to blame for an underachieving hockey club. If anyone's stats should mean nothing its a goalies.


Here in Pittsburgh fans have some very easy "go to" scape goats, Baseball "management sucks, sell um to Cuban", Football " Quarterback sucks put in the back up", Hockey " Goalie sucks, start the back up". It has sadly been this way for a long time.

Watch the game, watch Flower's skill set, his athleticism and reflexes are unmatched. He will prove it this year, like he has in the past; under a real hockey coach; that employs a real system, that supports his net minder.

F Cuban

- nbartley9


It's not like most people who rag on Fleury, including myself, do not want this to be true. We have just seen his potential for this past half decade come up way short. It is difficult, now more than ever, to deny how well he has rebounded with a new coach and system, but there will always be doubt until he proves otherwise.

It is the same with Malkin. Art Ross, Smyth, Hart, he is still called the underachieving lazy russian. It doesn't make any sense, but it exists.
FLAM3SFAN
Calgary Flames
Location: ON
Joined: 03.13.2013

Nov 20 @ 9:45 AM ET
baertschi and glencross for despres and bennett?
sfrizz
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.05.2010

Nov 20 @ 9:47 AM ET
baertschi and glencross for despres and bennett?
- FLAM3SFAN



good luck with that
FLAM3SFAN
Calgary Flames
Location: ON
Joined: 03.13.2013

Nov 20 @ 9:48 AM ET

good luck with that

- sfrizz

oh its not me its some goof on the flames board whos calling me a (frank)ing idiot for saying it won't happen
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Nov 20 @ 9:52 AM ET
oh its not me its some goof on the flames board whos calling me a (frank)ing idiot for saying it won't happen
- FLAM3SFAN


we would have to take GMJR out back behind the woodshed after that deal.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Nov 20 @ 9:57 AM ET
Yakupov is going to cost a lot more than Harrington and a 1st. The cost will be prohibitive, especially considering that he's a total question mark, and he's unlikely to be effective in a playoff environment.

Harrington and Spaling for Juicy. Make it happen.
rkrichter2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 20 @ 10:11 AM ET
This team is cursed. I've been saying it since even before Letang's unfortunate health issues. But as stated, it is very fortunate that all of these athletes (and more importantly people) found out about their conditions in early stages and have been able to at the very least live healthy lives and I expect the same with Dupuis, even if that means never playing hockey again. Get well soon!

That being said, the team has a non replaceable piece to replace. Personally, I would like the team to look into younger wingers with term. However, that will likely cost you more and may be less of them for the pickin'.

What about Lokitonov? His name was thrown around with a few teams early in the season. I'm not sure he's a guy they should look at or not, or what he could bring to this team. Just a name to throw into the ring for discussion.

Thoughts?
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Nov 20 @ 10:11 AM ET
Yakupov is going to cost a lot more than Harrington and a 1st. The cost will be prohibitive, especially considering that he's a total question mark, and he's unlikely to be effective in a playoff environment.

Harrington and Spaling for Juicy. Make it happen.

- hardnosed




Juicy better be some young stud winger i've never heard of and not who i think you're talking about.....
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Nov 20 @ 10:11 AM ET
The good news is that Dupuis should be fine long term. Plenty of people have clotting issues, and with some medication and monitoring, they lead perfectly normal lives. Not sure where that leaves hockey in the equation, as you can't go back to hockey if you are on blood thinners. Hopefully for him, the doctors will feel that it is safe enough for him to go without blood thinners for a few years and allow him to eventually leave hockey on his own terms.

Whatever happens, and who knows what he will want to do, but I can't imagine that after he is done playing that the Penguins won't find a way to keep him in the organization. He, like Guerin, has that infectious personality and seems to be a great mentor for young players. He could easily slide into that Player Development role if he wanted to.
CanesJKG
Joined: 02.01.2010

Nov 20 @ 10:18 AM ET
Semin.

Take Semin. JR had such a hard on to sign him... He has the track record for recycling players too...
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Nov 20 @ 10:19 AM ET
Ales Hemsky is in the dog house I. Big D. Wonder if the pens could swing a deal that has Dallas retaining some of his salary a la jussi jokinen. Also David Perron's value might be at an all time low right now.
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Nov 20 @ 10:20 AM ET
The good news is that Dupuis should be fine long term. Plenty of people have clotting issues, and with some medication and monitoring, they lead perfectly normal lives. Not sure where that leaves hockey in the equation, as you can't go back to hockey if you are on blood thinners. Hopefully for him, the doctors will feel that it is safe enough for him to go without blood thinners for a few years and allow him to eventually leave hockey on his own terms.

Whatever happens, and who knows what he will want to do, but I can't imagine that after he is done playing that the Penguins won't find a way to keep him in the organization. He, like Guerin, has that infectious personality and seems to be a great mentor for young players. He could easily slide into that Player Development role if he wanted to.

- rival22


They've also got Tocchet and Nasreddine too.

Whether I remember this correctly or not, wasn't Denis Savard an assistant coach - while injured - during the Canadiens '93 run?
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Nov 20 @ 10:22 AM ET
You guys read that story about Jack Johnson and his parents completely ruining him financially? Scary stuff.... I don't understand parents like this.

http://bluejacketsxtra.di...14/11/20/blind-sided.html
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Nov 20 @ 10:24 AM ET
Semin.

Take Semin. JR had such a hard on to sign him... He has the track record for recycling players too...

- CanesJKG


If he only had one year, I would consider it. Of course if he was on his last year he'd probably be playing harder and you wouldn't want to move him.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Nov 20 @ 10:24 AM ET


Juicy better be some young stud winger i've never heard of and not who i think you're talking about.....

- cap1681


Just trying to be somewhat realistic, sorry. It takes assets to get assets. Folks can believe that our worst D prospects will bring back a quality winger, but that's just not the case.

I have no interest in a young winger. It's all about the playoffs, and Jurco, Nail, etc. do nothing to help the team in the playoffs.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Nov 20 @ 10:25 AM ET
Ales Hemsky is in the dog house I. Big D. Wonder if the pens could swing a deal that has Dallas retaining some of his salary a la jussi jokinen. Also David Perron's value might be at an all time low right now.
- Thorny87


Hemsky is worthless. Overpaid, unproductive, and soff.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Nov 20 @ 10:27 AM ET
Ales Hemsky is in the dog house I. Big D. Wonder if the pens could swing a deal that has Dallas retaining some of his salary a la jussi jokinen. Also David Perron's value might be at an all time low right now.
- Thorny87

Retain half the salary and I'm in but... hold your breathe.. i would go after someone else for his price right now... After seeing kap and sund play I'm really hoping for them next yr. So I would go after e.kane or eberle/ yak and be done...

And wtf when is megna coming up..
s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.03.2008

Nov 20 @ 10:28 AM ET
Semin.

Take Semin. JR had such a hard on to sign him... He has the track record for recycling players too...

- CanesJKG


He has 3 more yrs at $7M/yr. That just doesn't work at all.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Nov 20 @ 10:28 AM ET

What about Lokitonov? His name was thrown around with a few teams early in the season. I'm not sure he's a guy they should look at or not, or what he could bring to this team. Just a name to throw into the ring for discussion.

Thoughts?

- rkrichter2


One source, not saying this is a credible source, just noting that I read a week or so back that Loktionov would already be a Penguin if we had the cap space. Well, now we have the cap space..
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Nov 20 @ 10:30 AM ET
Yakupov is going to cost a lot more than Harrington and a 1st. The cost will be prohibitive, especially considering that he's a total question mark, and he's unlikely to be effective in a playoff environment.

Harrington and Spaling for Juicy. Make it happen.

- hardnosed


Jokinen is signed too long for too much and is soft.
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