Jan Levine: John Moore Gets a Five-Game Suspension, Long Enough or Too Short? What do you think?

I honestly think any headshot then results in an injury, done by what the CBA considers a repeat offender, should see 10 games minimum. This poop needs to be taken out of the game.

5 games is a fair punishment in todays league. Keap in mind hits like that got Scott Stevens to the hall of fame. Im not saying that its correct to deliver that hit, but what I'm saying is it will be several years from now before we see extended suspensions pertaining to that type of hit to the head, open ice while both players are in full stride. If the hit was along the boards or behind the net where the victimized player was pinned in, then that would have been much more vicious requiring a much harsher verdict.

5-7 games is what all the pundits predicted. I may have gone with the 7 but at least 5 was warranted.
One would hope that Moore being 57k lighter on his next paycheck would make him think a little bit about it.

Jan Levine: John Moore Gets a Five-Game Suspension, Long Enough or Too Short?
What do you think?
- airjan23

In this case I agree with the league, to me more than 5 games would've been excessive. We can not take out hitting out of the sport. The hit was not late, it was not an elbow to the head, initial contact was the chest.

Had this been straight to the head elbow or shoulder, and/or late, then it's a vicious hit that warrants a much longer suspension. But it wasn't either of those. I would honestly feel the same if it was a ranger on the receiving end.

Kickem out of the league ! He should be done

I think 5 games is fair and is what I said he should get. If the player is not injured on the hit i don't think the suspension should be as dramatic. I understand some disagree but it is much easier for the opposing team to swallow when their player is not injured. For instance, if that happened to one of our guys and our player was not injured or didn't miss any games, then i would be happy with 5 games. However, if one of our guys were going to miss time (5-10 games lets use as an example) then i would want the opposing player to receive a more severe suspension. If Haula had gotten a concussion (last i checked he did not have one and would only miss possibly 1 game) i think 5 games is far. If he got a concussion then i would want 7+.

http://imgur.com/Bb1KVg4

to me this angle changed my mind on the matter

I honestly think any headshot then results in an injury, done by what the CBA considers a repeat offender, should see 10 games minimum. This poop needs to be taken out of the game.
- hereticpride

Your team would have an AHL lineup if that were the case.....

http://imgur.com/Bb1KVg4

to me this angle changed my mind on the matter
- MatzCT

That angle looks like shoulder to the chest

Much talk about who is being called up to replace Moore.

I have not yet given up on Dylan McIlrath who has had played only 109 games his first two years of pro hockey. Two seasons spent coming back from a serious injury.

I might mention that Johnny Boychuk spent 5 years in the AHL before being called up to the Bruins.

Hope springs eternal.

I can dream, can't I???????

He got off pretty easy, imo.

5 games is a fair punishment in todays league. Keap in mind hits like that got Scott Stevens to the hall of fame. Im not saying that its correct to deliver that hit, but what I'm saying is it will be several years from now before we see extended suspensions pertaining to that type of hit to the head, open ice while both players are in full stride. If the hit was along the boards or behind the net where the victimized player was pinned in, then that would have been much more vicious requiring a much harsher verdict.
- meatman99

This is idiotic. And untrue. But mostly idiotic.

Jan Levine: John Moore Gets a Five-Game Suspension, Long Enough or Too Short?
What do you think?
- airjan23

The guy's a repeat offender, who did pretty much the same type of hit last year. He's not learning obviously. The head was targeted and saying otherwise is ridiculous.

Your team would have an AHL lineup if that were the case.....
- Downeaster

Really? Who are our repeat offender cheap shot artists? Emery?

Jan I respect the hell out of you anyways and I am bias because I love my Hockeybuzz family but I could not agree more with your thoughts on Moore and NHL's handling of this. I honestly do not know much of anything about Moore as a player or person but I was outraged and shocked at how blatant, unnecessary, and reckless that Elbow on Erik Haula was. Scary moment there could have truly been LIFE altering beyond just ramifications to his hockey career.

NHL avoided having to stand by any sort of major ruling only giving 5 games which avoids the opportunity for it to go to an independent arbitrator on suspensions of 6 games or more. That sure drove their decision which is frankly a lack of accountability and Chicken Shat IMO

This is idiotic. And untrue. But mostly idiotic.
- djamon

Ask Lindros and Karyia

This is idiotic. And untrue. But mostly idiotic.
- djamon

No I think there's a valid point, he was a head hunter when the league was open season for hits like this, in today's game he would be a repeat offender

I think Moore is fortunate to have gotten 5 games, just the mere fact that it's been two separate incidents in 5 months but in actuality 15 games he should have gotten more, with this latest incident he headed down the "Cooke Wing" of the Hall of Shame, it's not just a black eye on the league it's a black eye to the organization

Right call. Maybe a little light, though.

That angle looks like shoulder to the chest
- nyrangers9479

The principle point of contact isn't the only thing that matters. What makes this hit dirty outside just "shoulder to chest" is the fact that it was a blindside hit to a vulnerable player where Moore skated in from the side and also followed through with his elbow. It's a dangerous hit. The NHL isn't trying to remove strictly headshots; they're trying to remove all dangerous blindside hits to vulnerable players.

I expected 8 games but I think 5 is also appropriate.

ssssup, boys? Great comeback win the other night, obviously Jan covered that already, but still could be a real pivotal win going forward this year.

On the MOORE hit, def dirty, probably lucky it wasn't more games. This combined with the Weise HIT LAST YEAR & JM might really starting to get a rep. Kreider too now, but I still say all of these "incidents" that people keep talking about to me have almost all been accidental/unfortunate things, not deliberate attempts to injure. I remember Kovalev early in his career w us took some brutal penalties that got him in Keenan's doghouse & I believe suspended once or twice, before getting the message & straightening out. But again, I don't think Kreider is a dirty player, just a victim of his own speed & strength. Still I would hate to see him tweak his natural instincts, especially his speed.

Thought he would get 3, but if this is needed to crack down on this kind of poop then I understand why the league is doing this.

Ask Lindros and Karyia
- tomburton99

Watch either video Stevens took the body (as well as the head). Not saying that the hits Stevens delivered were safe, and the league is trying to take them out of the gaem (allegedly). Find me an instance where Stevens hit the head and only the head as in this Moore hit, or a perfect example, Cooke on Savard. If Stevens caught you with your head down he was going to hit you, and hard, call them predatory or what you will but I cannot remember a hit where a shoulder or elbow hit the head and the head only.

No I think there's a valid point, he was a head hunter when the league was open season for hits like this, in today's game he would be a repeat offender

I think Moore is fortunate to have gotten 5 games, just the mere fact that it's been two separate incidents in 5 months but in actuality 15 games he should have gotten more, with this latest incident he headed down the "Cooke Wing" of the Hall of Shame, it's not just a black eye on the league it's a black eye to the organization
- HankdaTank

I think 5 is fair in this instance, and I am reluctant to compare Moore to Cooke who is probably the biggest POS playing the game right now although Torres gives him a run for his money. Another hit like that though and I'd say he learned nothing and needs to sit 25+.

Watch either video Stevens took the body (as well as the head). Not saying that the hits Stevens delivered were safe, and the league is trying to take them out of the gaem (allegedly). Find me an instance where Stevens hit the head and only the head as in this Moore hit, or a perfect example, Cooke on Savard. If Stevens caught you with your head down he was going to hit you, and hard, call them predatory or what you will but I cannot remember a hit where a shoulder or elbow hit the head and the head only.
- smellmyfinger

No doubt that Stevens laid out some nice clean hits but his highlight reel contains plenty of questionable hits like Kariya and Lindros