Rick Sadowski: Roy: Adversity 'part of process'

"It's part of the process" will be Roy's go to line for everything that happens good or bad.

Everberg is recalled

See you later Cliche

"It's part of the process" will be Roy's go to line for everything that happens good or bad.
- SoundsOfTheIce

hush you

Everberg is recalled

See you later Cliche
- DDM-Coga

Unfortunately, I think this has more to do with Wichester being further away than they thought.

Fortunately, Roy did sit Cliche in favor of Everberg when Mitchell came back!

"It's part of the process" will be Roy's go to line for everything that happens good or bad.
- SoundsOfTheIce

Stole it from Eakins...

It kept him employed this long so Patty figured why not adopt it.

Stole it from Eakins...

It kept him employed this long so Patty figured why not adopt it.
- Iggysbff

Jack Adams award in his first year, great friendship with the GM, legend to the fanbase, and (here's the kicker) also VP of hockey operations.

I think he's safe

Unfortunately, I think this has more to do with Wichester being further away than they thought.

Fortunately, Roy did sit Cliche in favor of Everberg when Mitchell came back!
- westonie

well at least he will be a healthy scratch, no way they call up Everberg just to sit him in the press box.

Landy Duchene ROR
McGinn MacK Iggy
Tangs Mitchell Everberg
McLeod Briere Talbot

One step closed to fixing that bottom 6

well at least he will be a healthy scratch, no way they call up Everberg just to sit him in the press box.

Landy Duchene ROR
McGinn MacK Iggy
Tangs Mitchell Everberg
McLeod Briere Talbot

One step closed to fixing that bottom 6
- DDM-Coga

Except Landeskog does not work with Duchene.

Except Landeskog does not work with Duchene.
- Avs-Ice

did you watch the game last night? I thought they looked great together in the 3rd, they were making some really nice plays as a line.

But sure you an switch it to

ROR Dutch McGinn
Landy Mack Iggy

did you watch the game last night? I thought they looked great together in the 3rd, they were making some really nice plays as a line.

But sure you an switch it to

ROR Dutch McGinn
Landy Mack Iggy
- DDM-Coga

I did watch the game, I was questioning why they couldn't play like they did in the 3rd for the whole game.

I did watch the game, I was questioning why they couldn't play like they did in the 3rd for the whole game.
- Avs-Ice

That's the million Dollar question so far this season.

But based on small sample sizes and glimmer of hopes like last nights 3rd, I think this is just a team playing poorly and not a bad hockey team. I still have hope they can turn it around

That's the million Dollar question so far this season.

But based on small sample sizes and glimmer of hopes like last nights 3rd, I think this is just a team playing poorly and not a bad hockey team. I still have hope they can turn it around
- DDM-Coga

Yeah, my only real concern was the bottom six and defense, with the poor play I felt vindicated in my assessment, but we still have a lot of talent. They should be playing better.

Yeah, my only real concern was the bottom six and defense, with the poor play I felt vindicated in my assessment, but we still have a lot of talent. They should be playing better.
- Avs-Ice

the d is still very concerning, I Just hope they don't do a over payment trade getting a guy thats just a moderate upgrade, like myers, lets not pay a premium on a guy thats just Meh.

But when EJ and Barrie are going, it takes the stress off guys like Holden, Redmond to play over their heads and that really helps protect guys like Stuart and Hejda playing tougher minutes. Its just a top down effect that really sucks bc if Barrie and EJ are hurt or playing like poo, there is no way that core can survive

the d is still very concerning, I Just hope they don't do a over payment trade getting a guy thats just a moderate upgrade, like myers, lets not pay a premium on a guy thats just Meh
- DDM-Coga

The only guy that is an actual possibility would be yandle. It would take ROR to swing that deal. Maybe we can sucker them with our first Siemens and Hishon. Essentially 3 first rounders

The only guy that is an actual possibility would be yandle. It would take ROR to swing that deal. Maybe we can sucker them with our first Siemens and Hishon. Essentially 3 first rounders
- SoundsOfTheIce

We don't move that 1st, not in this draft not with this team right now

We don't move that 1st, not in this draft not with this team right now
- DDM-Coga

They need to keep growing their prospect pool so they have assets to trade when they're closer to contending.

They need to keep growing their prospect pool so they have assets to trade when they're closer to contending.
- westonie

Or you can afford to trade away or let older pricy vets walk as ufas since you are always injecting youth into the line up.

Big difference with our d core and other great d cores, we only have 1 home grown talent on it, you can't build a top contending core on cast away trades and mid tier free agent signings, so hitting those mid to late first round picks and 2nd round picks are so important

We don't move that 1st, not in this draft not with this team right now
- DDM-Coga

If you want to get a premiere D man like yandle that's exactly what you do. Do we want to make the playoffs or just take another step back and tank into another blue chip prospect. Yandle is young and would change the dynamic of our d core.

If you want to get a premiere D man like yandle that's exactly what you do. Do we want to make the playoffs or just take another step back and tank into another blue chip prospect. Yandle is young and would change the dynamic of our d core.
- SoundsOfTheIce

Not for yandle he's not a corner stone piece, he's a pending ufa in 2016, I wouldn't move our first rounder for a guy like him who isn't signed long term or a rfa giving us the chance to sign.

Yandle is 28, will be a UFA at 30, so you have to sign him long term at the point to justify the trade, where he could be hitting his decline shortly afterwards, not worth the risk of moving our 1st for him and tying up expensive cap space for a guy who might have a few good years left

Not for yandle he's not a corner stone piece, he's a pending ufa in 2016, I wouldn't move our first rounder for a guy like him who isn't signed long term or a rfa giving us the chance to sign
- DDM-Coga

That's what I don't get about Avs fans, it's like their is no concept of having to give up something valuable to get something valuable in return. What good does a possible top ten pick get us next season? If it's not the big two who cares. Giving up our first for a known quality commodity like yandle without having to sacrifice someone on the active roster like ROR would be a steal.

That's what I don't get about Avs fans, it's like their is no concept of having to give up something valuable to get something valuable in return. What good does a possible top ten pick get us next season? If it's not the big two who cares. Giving up our first for a known quality commodity like yandle without having to sacrifice someone on the active roster like ROR would be a steal.
- SoundsOfTheIce

no its called asset management, we did a poor job of that with the last set of trades.

Over spending on Stuart, under selling off PAP and Downie.
so moving our 1st round pick for yandle would be an example of poor asset management, especially if you give up Siemens as well.

Its not a steal, we would be moving way too many future parts on a risk of keeping a guy for a season and a half. We have the worst prospect pool in the league, to give up one of our best prospects and a potentially high pick, we are further setting us back since we are forced to sign and trade for bottom 6 guys and bottom pairing men. When you don't groom the those young 3 line and 2nd pairing guys, we get our situation of scrubs plugging the holes

If you want to get a premiere D man like yandle that's exactly what you do. Do we want to make the playoffs or just take another step back and tank into another blue chip prospect. Yandle is young and would change the dynamic of our d core.
- SoundsOfTheIce

I'd rather stay patient. Let Siemens continue to develop in the AHL until there's an injury and hopefully take over if he's ready.
Same with Hishon. Let him get one more year and opportunities when injuries happen so he can take Briere's spot next year.

Keep an eye open for defenseman if they become available but there's no need to overpay for a defenseman who could walk away as a UFA in 2 years when the team is hopefully an actual contender.
No need to change the plan because they've struggled 10 games in.

Not for yandle he's not a corner stone piece, he's a pending ufa in 2016, I wouldn't move our first rounder for a guy like him who isn't signed long term or a rfa giving us the chance to sign.

Yandle is 28, will be a UFA at 30, so you have to sign him long term at the point to justify the trade, where he could be hitting his decline shortly afterwards, not worth the risk of moving our 1st for him and tying up expensive cap space for a guy who might have a few good years left
- DDM-Coga

We are going to have to overpay someone in the offseason next year to upgrade our D might as well be a guy like yandle. Did you see what Niskanen got? Will it be Boychuck? It doesn't matter because if your somewhat good at playing D in the NHL you are getting paid. What are we going to do get a top 10 pick and develop him for a couple years? At some point this organization has to decide when to pull the trigger and decide that they are going to be a constant playoff contender. Look at what the kings traded to become what they are. Avs fans would have lost their poop if we traded Simmons and Brayden schenn. Look what the kings accomplished by pulling that trigger.

We are going to have to overpay someone in the offseason next year to upgrade our D might as well be a guy like yandle. Did you see what Niskanen got? Will it be Boychuck? It doesn't matter because if your somewhat good at playing D in the NHL you are getting paid. What are we going to do get a top 10 pick and develop him for a couple years? At some point this organization has to decide when to pull the trigger and decide that they are going to be a constant playoff contender. Look at what the kings traded to become what they are. Avs fans would have lost their poop if we traded Simmons and Brayden schenn. Look what the kings accomplished by pulling that trigger.
- SoundsOfTheIce

You are really being dense about this. The reason that The Kings were able to do a trade like that is bc they had a top prospect system and could afford to move top pieces since they had a bounty of them.

We move any pieces of worth like Simens or Bigras, what do we have..Elliott as one of our top D prospects, thats just a disaster of a pipeline. You can't over spend in the middle of a rebuild, and yes we are still rebuilding, we got ahead of schedule season last year, but we are not there yet, so to over spend in a trade to feel like we need to yield the same results like last year, we are just setting ourselves back even further.

If the right trade came along yes as an organization you do it, but we are not in a win now mode, our window isn't closing, the window to win with this team hasn't even really opened yet.