Jared Crozier: New Meaning For United In Red Saturday Night; Checking in With Bingo

Looking forward to Saturday's game!

It feels very wrong to be intrigued to see the city come together for tonights Redblack game and Saturdays Senators game. It's rare and unfortunate that a city has this opportunity to come together in a large spectacle to honour and respect such an unfortunate event. Being a citizen of Ottawa, even a citizen of Canada, is usually downplayed and shrugged off. Modesty is usually the way to go. I expect that will change for many people over the next few days. It will be a time to respect and honour Nathan Cirillo and all Canadian Soldiers. It will be a time to come together as a city and a nation.

Great blogs over the last few crappy days Jared. I have been very impressed with a lot of the writing this past week around various blogs and Canadian news outlets.

Gotta think Murray is showcasing Weircoche to get his value up for a trade - somehwere in the NHL a GM has asked to see Weircoche play 5 straight NHL games to judge his current value.

Ott: Weircoche, 3rd 2016
Buff: Stewart

Ott: 2nd 2016
Cal: Weircoche

Gotta think Murray is showcasing Weircoche to get his value up for a trade - somehwere in the NHL a GM has asked to see Weircoche play 5 straight NHL games to judge his current value.

Ott: Weircoche, 3rd 2016
Buff: Stewart

Ott: 2nd 2016
Cal: Weircoche
- tuna99

i wouldn't trade wiercioch straight up for stewart.........he's just anohter plug forward that makes it harder for guys like lazar/puempel/pageau/etc to get into the lineup.

also, buffalo is loaded with young d-men, and are weak at forward (both nhl level and prospects)....so moving a forward for a young d-man makes no sense for them.

i wouldn't trade wiercioch straight up for stewart.........he's just anohter plug forward that makes it harder for guys like lazar/puempel/pageau/etc to get into the lineup.

also, buffalo is loaded with young d-men, and are weak at forward (both nhl level and prospects)....so moving a forward for a young d-man makes no sense for them.
- sensarmy_11

yeah I have never had any interest in Stewart...much rather see the kids play

yeah I have never had any interest in Stewart...much rather see the kids play
- TheMike12

wiercioch is a slow starter, has been in the AHL and in teh NHL last year....but he has the talent to easily be the 2nd best PMD on our team.

stewart is a plug, he's basically kovalev minus the talent. he brings NOTHING to the sens, costs a buttload more than he's worth, and is a UFA at the end of the year.

much rather hold on to wiercioch and see if he turns it around. hell, i'd rather hold on to him and keep him in the press box than have stewart on the team. stewart takes ice time away from hoffman and lazar, and a roster spot away from puempel and pageau. not even sure i'd trade greening for stewart to be honest with you.

wiercioch is a slow starter, has been in the AHL and in teh NHL last year....but he has the talent to easily be the 2nd best PMD on our team.

stewart is a plug, he's basically kovalev minus the talent. he brings NOTHING to the sens, costs a buttload more than he's worth, and is a UFA at the end of the year.

much rather hold on to wiercioch and see if he turns it around. hell, i'd rather hold on to him and keep him in the press box than have stewart on the team. stewart takes ice time away from hoffman and lazar, and a roster spot away from puempel and pageau. not even sure i'd trade greening for stewart to be honest with you.
- sensarmy_11

If we traded for him at least we'd have a new whipping boy - that's at least worth something. I agree Stewart isn't much of a threat but the size and talent is intriguing.

Ottawa has to trade someone before Methot gets back - or maybe they put Greening on waivers?

But in all honesty - Ottawa needs either an elite LW (Ladd) or a big Center (Staal, Thornton) to take another step.

If we traded for him at least we'd have a new whipping boy - that's at least worth something. I agree Stewart isn't much of a threat but the size and talent is intriguing.

Ottawa has to trade someone before Methot gets back - or maybe they put Greening on waivers?

But in all honesty - Ottawa needs either an elite LW (Ladd) or a big Center (Staal, Thornton) to take another step.
- tuna99

he has no talent, and ottawa is already the biggest team in the league. stewart is useless, and he would do nothing but take ice time away from younger/better players.

ottawa doesn't have to trade anyone, there are always other options......but if they do trade, why bring in an expensive plug who doesn't help the team in ANY way.

ottawa needs to be patient with their young team, all the core players (ohter than ryan) are 25 or younger. there is no reason to make a desperate move to bring in one guy. the sens are not one player away from being cup contenders.....unless you think we can get crosby, toews, or stamkos.

If we traded for him at least we'd have a new whipping boy - that's at least worth something. I agree Stewart isn't much of a threat but the size and talent is intriguing.

Ottawa has to trade someone before Methot gets back - or maybe they put Greening on waivers?

But in all honesty - Ottawa needs either an elite LW (Ladd) or a big Center (Staal, Thornton) to take another step.
- tuna99

You're way off with your trade targets. Stewart, Ladd, Staal, Thorton, etc would all be fine if we were expecting to contend immediately. We said goodbye to that when we got rid of Spezza. We should only be trading away plugs or trading young players for other young players. I don't really expect Weircioch to be moved soon. Even though Methot is coming back, you don't need to make an earth shattering roster move, however, does kind of show how silly it was to sign both Gryba and Boro to one way deals.

You're way off with your trade targets. Stewart, Ladd, Staal, Thorton, etc would all be fine if we were expecting to contend immediately. We said goodbye to that when we got rid of Spezza. We should only be trading away plugs or trading young players for other young players. I don't really expect Weircioch to be moved soon. Even though Methot is coming back, you don't need to make an earth shattering roster move, however, does kind of show how silly it was to sign both Gryba and Boro to one way deals.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

philly looks desperate to bring in atleast a temporary d-man. i bet we could send them gryba for like a 3rd or 4th rd pick.

it gives them an inexpensive d-man who is a capable NHLer, and gives us the roster spot we desperately need.

philly looks desperate to bring in atleast a temporary d-man. i bet we could send them gryba for like a 3rd or 4th rd pick.

it gives them an inexpensive d-man who is a capable NHLer, and gives us the roster spot we desperately need.
- sensarmy_11

I don't think it would be difficult to move any of the guys in question. I do think Murray has an idea of what he wants in return for them however. That could be the holdup. It will be interesting to see what happens. I'm sure the organization would rather move Greening or Condra to make room, but that seems far fetched.

If we traded for him at least we'd have a new whipping boy - that's at least worth something. I agree Stewart isn't much of a threat but the size and talent is intriguing.

Ottawa has to trade someone before Methot gets back - or maybe they put Greening on waivers?

But in all honesty - Ottawa needs either an elite LW (Ladd) or a big Center (Staal, Thornton) to take another step.
- tuna99

meh, hes big but pretty useless....he had 1 good season with the avs like 5 years ago and has done basically nothing since...he had 18 goals I think one year with st louis a couple years ago...

hes not the type of player this team needs at all,...

this is philly's D moving forward

Streit-Grossman
MDZ-Schenn
Shultz-Callup/trade

i will never again complain about our defence.

If the org decides to keep Lazar this season, and I hope they do, you got to think either Greening or Condra is on their way out; I hope it isn't the latter. Maybe Phoenix takes a chance on Greening, package him with Prince and a 2nd for Brandon Gormley.

Same goes for Methot, I don't think they'll play the wait and see approach with him. If he doesn't sign soon, he could be on his way out. I was thinking either Edmonton or Colorado would be ideal trading partners. Both desperately need improvements on defense (more than us, shocking) and they have good pieces to move.

If the org decides to keep Lazar this season, and I hope they do, you got to think either Greening or Condra is on their way out; I hope it isn't the latter. Maybe Phoenix takes a chance on Greening, package him with Prince and a 2nd for Brandon Gormley.

Same goes for Methot, I don't think they'll play the wait and see approach with him. If he doesn't sign soon, he could be on his way out. I was thinking either Edmonton or Colorado would be ideal trading partners. Both desperately need improvements on defense (more than us, shocking) and they have good pieces to move.
- TheCalSen

come on man......be realistic. greening adds negative value to that deal, and no chance that prince/2nd get you gormley.

gormley costs you puempel +

i'm not averse to trading methot........not sure what edmonton or colorado have (NHL ready) that they'd be willing to part with, that ottawa would want (and was a fair return).

come on man......be realistic. greening adds negative value to that deal, and no chance that prince/2nd get you gormley.

gormley costs you puempel +

i'm not averse to trading methot........not sure what edmonton or colorado have (NHL ready) that they'd be willing to part with, that ottawa would want (and was a fair return).
- sensarmy_11

No such thing as negative value. I'm not implying that he's good, but he has some value for a team who is slim offensively.

No such thing as negative value. I'm not implying that he's good, but he has some value for a team who is slim offensively.
- TheCalSen

yes there is...........if you're offering a terrible player, on an even worse contract, it's negative value.

he has no value to anyone, because there are literally tons of players who are just as good, if not better, who are either UFAs or already in phx's system, who don't come with that horrible contract.

prince/2nd get you a better return than prince/2nd/greening

yes there is...........if you're offering a terrible player, on an even worse contract, it's negative value.

he has no value to anyone, because there are literally tons of players who are just as good, if not better, who are either UFAs or already in phx's system, who don't come with that horrible contract.

prince/2nd get you a better return than prince/2nd/greening
- sensarmy_11

there's got to be some demand for Greening. Chicago was alledgly interested in him.

there's got to be some demand for Greening. Chicago was alledgly interested in him.
- TheCalSen

pretty sure they were only interested in smith.........and hopeful sens fans just kept trying to dump him into the trade offers.

philly looks desperate to bring in atleast a temporary d-man. i bet we could send them gryba for like a 3rd or 4th rd pick.

it gives them an inexpensive d-man who is a capable NHLer, and gives us the roster spot we desperately need.
- sensarmy_11

Philly is desperate for an NHL body on the blue line and a 3rd/4th is acceptable for Gryba. I Can't see him getting resigned anyways. Ottawa has enough 5,6 defencemen.

Philly is desperate for an NHL body on the blue line and a 3rd/4th is acceptable for Gryba. I Can't see him getting resigned anyways. Ottawa has enough 5,6 defencemen.
- Erik6Karlsson5

I don't think BM would trade a player he just signed to an extension. I think Methot might be going to Philly in exchange for a solid prospect. Maybe Morin?

No such thing as negative value. I'm not implying that he's good, but he has some value for a team who is slim offensively.
- TheCalSen

David Clarkson

I don't think BM would trade a player he just signed to an extension. I think Methot might be going to Philly in exchange for a solid prospect. Maybe Morin?
- TheCalSen

You could be right about Methot being the guy moved. I had forgot about Gryba havin another year left on his contract aftr this season.

Methot wld bring back a better return, but i think he resigns in Ottawa & Gryba is traded.

I don't think BM would trade a player he just signed to an extension. I think Methot might be going to Philly in exchange for a solid prospect. Maybe Morin?
- TheCalSen

philly can't fit methot in under the cap.....so unless philly sends salary back, it's not an option.....and lets be honest here, ottawa won't take a salary dump unless the other asset is VERY good.

edit.....maybe a deal of methot + pick/prospect (prince or maybe dal 2nd) for matt read could work. beyond that, i can't see a deal being made involving methot.....atleast not with philly