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Ty Anderson
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Location: @_TyAnderson, MA
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Oct 1 @ 10:15 PM ET
Ty Anderson: Old habits die hard
rynoisgod
Boston Bruins
Location: In Philly's head. . .there's a, ON
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 1 @ 10:24 PM ET
Great read Ty.

This is a little bit shocking to me. I already had Florek penciled-in on the fourth-line wing. Silly me Also, seeing young talent like Khokhlachev and Spooner heading down worries me more than it probably should.

Any likelihood this is a temporary action pending a trade of a veteran or two? Chris Kelly has got to go. I would not miss Paille if we could get a decent return for him. I just think it's time to let some of the kids have a chance.
Ty Anderson
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Location: @_TyAnderson, MA
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Oct 1 @ 10:29 PM ET
Great read Ty.

This is a little bit shocking to me. I already had Florek penciled-in on the fourth-line wing. Silly me Also, seeing young talent like Khokhlachev and Spooner heading down worries me more than it probably should.

Any likelihood this is a temporary action pending a trade of a veteran or two? Chris Kelly has got to go. I would not miss Paille if we could get a decent return for him. I just think it's time to let some of the kids have a chance.

- rynoisgod


Their ability to get Krug/Smith in at such an affordable price really sort of changes that dynamic. Instead of having to move a Boychuk or Kelly, they could be able to skate with cutting ties with just a Bartkowski or Campbell. Obviously, their love for Campbell really seems to slice that idea up though. I gotta break it all down, but I really don't think Kelly goes anywhere unless it's a perfect spot. He loves that NTC.
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Oct 1 @ 10:37 PM ET
Do any of them go through waivers?
Ty Anderson
Editor
Location: @_TyAnderson, MA
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Oct 1 @ 10:38 PM ET
Do any of them go through waivers?
- Devils9503


Only Jeremy Smith.
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Oct 2 @ 12:45 AM ET
FINALLY.........someone with a (frank)ing brain in Boston sees what most reasonable people have been seeing for awhile now!

The long wait for CJ at the press conference there last game was because MANAGEMENT and CJ do not seem to see eye too eye.

Personally, I think that either CJ needs to ADAPT or he needs to go..............uwwwwwwwwwww.......how can I say that....?

Simple, CJ does not like change and he will not change on his own unless forced.

I kinda hope that Chia pet pulls a MONEYBALL MOVE and trades away both Campbell, the aging vet, and Kelly, they will miss his leadership the most from what I've seen on "Behind the B's" and of what I have read.

Seguin, Kessel, Savard AND at one point even Krejic and Bergy all have been thrown in the doghouse because they don't play the way CJ wants........what about coaching the DAMN TALENT YOU HAVE!

We traded away Kessel and Seguin TOP TEN POINT GUYS IN THE NHL.

He female doged about Savards two way play, a 100 point a year guys THAT ONCE HURT CRIPPLED OUR PP FOR YEARS.....YEARS....! Savard did get better as time went on.

And Bergy was a 30 goal scorer with a HUGE MINUS in his first few years.
THANKFULLY, he did adapt and has become the BEST two way player in the league.

And even Krejic has DRASTICALLY improved his Two way game.
He admitted he wanted to a few years ago and I FEEL HAS QUIETLY become a very good two way player.

But, here we are with a chance to REVOLUTIONIZE the concept of the fourth line and that BASTARD JULIEN is being a stubborn mule!!!

Thornton, Campbell and Paille had HORRIBLE advance stat numbers last year!

They played the lowest quality of players, took the most O zone starts and had the worst Cosri and Cosri Rel on the WHOLE TEAM, OBVIOUSLY.......
Why wouldn't we try something new.......jackasses!
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Oct 2 @ 1:32 AM ET

But you still Traded Thorton, Kessel and Seguin.

If not for Chara and Bergeron Pete would be on a Feaster level IMO.
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Oct 2 @ 1:52 AM ET
But you still Traded Thorton, Kessel and Seguin.

If not for Chara and Bergeron Pete would be on a Feaster level IMO.

- Byfuglien Ate Me


I think there is a TRANSFORMATION in the NHL right now in which you don't need a Crosby, Stamkoes, Hall, Seguin type player to win.

Look at LA, Bos, Chi, St. Louis.....these are not teams that win solely on top picks SCORING AS MANY GOALS AS POSSIBLE.

They as system teams...BUT, there needs to be a median between a NJ Devils trap team with little risk scoring talent and a Pitt team with two top five centers in the world.

The Bs are going down the same path as the Pats IMO, we can KEEP THE SAME GAME PLAN AND NEVER CHANGE A THING and everything will be okay......

In Chias defense I believe Thornton was before his tenure.

But, we as a team.....I agreeee....need to change with the times.

We don't need a 15 fights a year guy......we NEED SPEED AND A LITTLE RISK on a SHELTERED fourth line.
Joel_Eh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Panel member of L'Antichambre, ON
Joined: 01.26.2012

Oct 2 @ 9:17 AM ET
I think there is a TRANSFORMATION in the NHL right now in which you don't need a Crosby, Stamkoes, Hall, Seguin type player to win.

Look at LA, Bos, Chi, St. Louis.....these are not teams that win solely on top picks SCORING AS MANY GOALS AS POSSIBLE.

They as system teams...BUT, there needs to be a median between a NJ Devils trap team with little risk scoring talent and a Pitt team with two top five centers in the world.

The Bs are going down the same path as the Pats IMO, we can KEEP THE SAME GAME PLAN AND NEVER CHANGE A THING and everything will be okay......

In Chias defense I believe Thornton was before his tenure.

But, we as a team.....I agreeee....need to change with the times.

We don't need a 15 fights a year guy......we NEED SPEED AND A LITTLE RISK on a SHELTERED fourth line.

- JIwasinskiJr


I dont think Chicago fits in that category - they were absolutely horrible before the top picks in Toews and Kane came along. LA has done well without a lot of top picks though.
Joel_Eh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Panel member of L'Antichambre, ON
Joined: 01.26.2012

Oct 2 @ 9:17 AM ET
I think there is a TRANSFORMATION in the NHL right now in which you don't need a Crosby, Stamkoes, Hall, Seguin type player to win.

Look at LA, Bos, Chi, St. Louis.....these are not teams that win solely on top picks SCORING AS MANY GOALS AS POSSIBLE.

They as system teams...BUT, there needs to be a median between a NJ Devils trap team with little risk scoring talent and a Pitt team with two top five centers in the world.

The Bs are going down the same path as the Pats IMO, we can KEEP THE SAME GAME PLAN AND NEVER CHANGE A THING and everything will be okay......

In Chias defense I believe Thornton was before his tenure.

But, we as a team.....I agreeee....need to change with the times.

We don't need a 15 fights a year guy......we NEED SPEED AND A LITTLE RISK on a SHELTERED fourth line.

- JIwasinskiJr


I dont think Chicago fits in that category - they were absolutely horrible before the top picks in Toews and Kane came along. LA has done well without a lot of top picks though.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Oct 2 @ 9:58 AM ET
But you still Traded Thorton, Kessel and Seguin.

If not for Chara and Bergeron Pete would be on a Feaster level IMO.

- Byfuglien Ate Me


Thornton was the old regime of Sinden/O'Connell. Kessel and Seguin do not fit the system. Kessel deal worked for both teams. The Bruins still have Hamilton, won a cup with Seguin. Seguin deal again mutually beneficial, Morrow, Smith Fraser who are all going to contribute to this team's success.

Also see Rask, Tuukka before we start bashing GMs past or present.
drahcir61
Boston Bruins
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Oct 2 @ 10:39 AM ET
Fraser, Caron & Cunningham all would require waivers & the Bruins might not want to risk losing them (some could be packaged in a trade &/or showcased to scouts in the next pre-season game).

Bruins can always recall Koko or Spooner or Florek but for this last week & with the trade of a dman (or 2) imminent, it probably makes sense to let Fraser, Caron or Cunningham play another NHL pre-season game, then pull the string on a trade package.

Warsofsky & Bartkowski require waivers ... & both would be claimed very quickly, so one or both will be shipped, Barts is almost certain to packaged ... it's a wait & see.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Oct 2 @ 10:40 AM ET
As for Spooner, I could see this coming. Julien has evolved a bit since starting here but he needs to do so again. I'm not saying Spooner should be the 4th line center either as I don't believe in him. Too weak defensively and way overrated by Bruins fans.

Bobby Robbins on this team is going to be a very bad idea. He will get used by any team that has a slight amount of skill. I'd rather see Florek get the nod for the 4th line. But since Robbins hit everything with a pulse the other night, Claude got tentes de pantelones for him. Won't surprise me if he makes the team.

Robbins/Kelly/Paille *pukes*
BruinBlood
Boston Bruins
Location: South Shore, MA
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 2 @ 10:45 AM ET
Just want to to know WHAT They see in #38, Please tell me, he doesn't score and he is a minus player on a + Team


Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 2 @ 10:52 AM ET
But you still Traded Thorton, Kessel and Seguin.

If not for Chara and Bergeron Pete would be on a Feaster level IMO.

- Byfuglien Ate Me


Interestingly none of those players have won a single god damn thing while the Bruins have been the most successful team in the East since their departure.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Oct 2 @ 11:02 AM ET
Interestingly none of those players have won a single god damn thing while the Bruins have been the most successful team in the East since their departure.
- Double_A


Apparently "winning trades" is more important than winning games in todays NHL.
77emac77
Boston Bruins
Location: Duct tape cant fix stupid but it can muffle the sound, MA
Joined: 04.22.2010

Oct 2 @ 11:23 AM ET
Apparently "winning trades" is more important than winning games in todays NHL.
- glove_was_stuck


well... we won the cup after trading Kessel, had a great season without Seguin last year. But yeah, in the playoffs last year, against Montreal who always gives us fits, the 4th line hurt the B;s,.. and Bart single handedly cost us at least one game. And How did Seguin do in the playoffs last year? Would all the goals he scored have helped?
MrBeanTown
Boston Bruins
Location: Garth blogs make me regret my literacy, NF
Joined: 01.31.2012

Oct 2 @ 11:28 AM ET
well... we won the cup after trading Kessel, had a great season without Seguin last year. But yeah, in the playoffs last year, against Montreal who always gives us fits, the 4th line hurt the B;s,.. and Bart single handedly cost us at least one game. And How did Seguin do in the playoffs last year? Would all the goals he scored have helped?
- 77emac77



Impossible to compare, he wasn't going to be a 1C here in Boston, he's a 1C in Dallas.

The comparisons will always be there, but they will never be valid.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Oct 2 @ 11:39 AM ET
well... we won the cup after trading Kessel, had a great season without Seguin last year. But yeah, in the playoffs last year, against Montreal who always gives us fits, the 4th line hurt the B;s,.. and Bart single handedly cost us at least one game. And How did Seguin do in the playoffs last year? Would all the goals he scored have helped?
- 77emac77


Seguin will be a regular season beast. But, he is not willing to play tough and in the dirty areas. When things get tougher in the playoffs it will cost Dallas. Especially up against a teams like St. Louis, L.A. or Chicago(who neutralized him in 2013).
drahcir61
Boston Bruins
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Oct 2 @ 11:44 AM ET
Just want to to know WHAT They see in #38, Please tell me, he doesn't score and he is a minus player on a + Team
- BruinBlood


It's complicated. Sorry I couldn't resist that.

But seriously, it's hard for any team to cut ties with a former 1st rounder (saving face & the "untapped potential"). On a worse team Caron would have gotten consistent ice time during the past 3 years, but with the B's it just never happened.

This is the first year where there are several forward spots up for grabs, prior to this Caron has been battling for the #13 or taking the shuttle to Providence. Trust me, I'm not cutting him slack ... I don't see him ever adding much to the Bruins.

It's too bad ... he has great size & everyone expected he'd become a mini-Lucic when he was drafted. But when was the last time you saw him actually drop the mitts & show some ... some ... some ... something! (keyboard stuck)

My hope is they showcase him Friday night then package him with Barts for Toronto's 1st round pick in '15 & '16 & '17 & '18 & '19 & '20 & ...
BearTime
Joined: 10.02.2014

Oct 2 @ 12:55 PM ET
Here's your quote:
Robins may be a good team guy, and he’s certainly a hard worker, but he is not a player that should outlast Spooner, Florek, or Khokhlachev when it comes to battling for a roster spot on the 2014-15 Boston Bruins.


What is KILLING me, is that everyone is pissed at the Bruins about this. No - Robins shouldn't beat out Spooner - so how about:
Spooner get off your skinny ass and show this team you want it and beat out the other so called scrubs ahead of you!


I'm pissed at Spoons. Seriously - he hasn't shown it. Yes, other teams have players like him, but its not like he's Nyquist and is potting goals. He's done and shown very little other than glimpses of awesome speed. You don't reward skills and potential.
77emac77
Boston Bruins
Location: Duct tape cant fix stupid but it can muffle the sound, MA
Joined: 04.22.2010

Oct 2 @ 1:03 PM ET
Seguin will be a regular season beast. But, he is not willing to play tough and in the dirty areas. When things get tougher in the playoffs it will cost Dallas. Especially up against a teams like St. Louis, L.A. or Chicago(who neutralized him in 2013).
- glove_was_stuck


that was kind of my point, he had 1 goal in last years post season.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Oct 2 @ 1:07 PM ET
that was kind of my point, he had 1 goal in last years post season.
- 77emac77


Yup. The Bruins got hosed in that deal.
BruinBlood
Boston Bruins
Location: South Shore, MA
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 2 @ 1:07 PM ET
Here's your quote:
I'm pissed at Spoons. Seriously - he hasn't shown it. Yes, other teams have players like him, but its not like he's Nyquist and is potting goals. He's done and shown very little other than glimpses of awesome speed. You don't reward skills and potential.

- BearTime


I think Cload made his mind up after Pre-Season Game #1
BruinBlood
Boston Bruins
Location: South Shore, MA
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 2 @ 1:08 PM ET
Yup. The Bruins got hosed in that deal.
- glove_was_stuck


At least your starting to come around
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